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TheFeatureCreature , to Technology in Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards
@TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world avatar

New AI technology promises to-

Hmm, where have I heard this before...

harsh3466 ,

I noped out as soon as I read that line.

duckCityComplex ,

The funny thing is AI is not really mentioned in the rest of the article. I don't think any of the new technology being introduced has anything to do with AI.

I guess "AI" is just a synonym for "new stuff" now.

plz1 ,

"AI" is the new "cloud"

agressivelyPassive ,

I also promise, to pay you back, if you give me 10 million. No contractual obligations, but I totally promise!

yukijoou , to Technology in Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards

lmao. as if the ai was gonna have a better carbon footprint than the small plastic thing you replace every 5-10 years

CheapFrottage ,

The post below this one in my feed is “Microsoft’s carbon emissions up by 30% due to ai”

slaacaa , to Technology in Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards

Is there an AI technology that would help me not roll my eyes every time I hear AI? Can’t wait to add this to the garbage pile of popped bubbles next to NFT, blockchain and metaverse.

And I’m saying that as somebody who uses LLMs for work regularly, it is a useful tool, but the absolute delusional bullshit hype that imagines uses beyond its capabilities is exhausting.

FiskFisk33 ,

LLM is amazing tech, but holy fuck I can't wait to get out of this bubble. Some of these applications sound like when they put radium in butter in the 50's, because atomic energy was so hype.

____ ,

Eh, somehow I missed that. Off to DDG for me, because I’m genuinely curious.

Mirshe ,

Pretty much this. It's the radium craze, or the ozone craze, or a whole bunch of other fads - everything has to have AI/LLMs integrated in some way or it's not "interesting" to shareholders.

metaStatic , to Technology in Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards

“[Biometric confirmation is] a lot harder to compromise,”

And a lot easier to obtain by force

Imgonnatrythis ,

And a lot harder to alter when compromised.

AbidanYre ,
NeoNachtwaechter , (edited )

Stolen? LOL fingerprints cannot be stolen. Stealing is taking away something from someone.

They are not protected, they are not copyrighted, they don't go away from you when someone copies them ...

You leave them everywhere, every day.

Fingerprints are public knowlege.

RGB3x3 ,

Fingerprint [records]. It says that in the article. Does it please you to be so pedantic?

Slotos ,

Identification != Authentication

As obvious as this sounds, I’ve learned over the years that most people don’t understand what it means exactly.

metaStatic ,

"Biometric confirmation" is both

kirklennon , to Technology in Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards

“The industry is at a pivotal point - new technologies like Gen AI are rapidly shifting how we shop and manage our finances,” said Jack Forestell, Chief Product and Strategy Officer, Visa.

This is so cringey. I get that investors are randomly throwing cash at companies that talk up "generative AI," but it has nothing to do with anything they announced. Is it impossible to just be content with ridiculously sophisticated algorithms? Did someone hold a gun up to these people and demand they spit out some drivel that uses the buzzwords du jour?

Also, the headline feature was solved a decade ago when Apple Pay was released (and no, not by the janky predecessors of Apple Pay but specifically with the launch of Apple Pay, which everything was then changed to replicate). One device that can hold an entire wallet of cards and I can choose what to use right when I pay? Wow! So new.

sabreW4K3 , to Android in Prominent Android manufacturers commit to supporting phone software for 7 years
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

Once again I look at Sundar Pichai and ask, what is the point of you? Under his stewardship, Android has lost all signs of life. The Android community is dead. There's been no innovation and the little bits of innovation they had created in recent years were quickly sunset. The last selling point of a Pixel was the quick updates and long update life but now everyone offers seven years. No identity, no community, no selling point, just blandness! They don't even leverage their money to offer cheaper hardware, the Pixel Tablet with Dock is compelling in its form factor, but upon closer look, it's less than mid-range specs, sub-par speaker performance and all with an over inflated price. At least eat the cost so that you can get one or two of these in every home. The only thing that's impressed me in recent years is bundling the watches.

fubbernuckin ,

i don't think they like the android community much since a lot of the community is dedicated toward getting away from the surveillance and theft that Google profits from.

KillingAndKindess ,
@KillingAndKindess@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Well if they would think more than 1 financial quarter ahead of things, they'd realize that they will lose customers to competition, thereby ruining both device sales and data gathering profits.

What shocks me, and I do mean shocks me, is what this line of thinking implies. Is the data google (tries to) gather from me really worth more $ than, say, an average of 350$ each year? Cause thats just 1 phone every 2-3 years and I'm looking into a tablet, and wearables eventually. I refuse to believe any knowledge about me is unique and valuable enough to beat that, and it seriously confuses me.

user224 ,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

The last selling point of a Pixel was the quick updates and long update life

And I thought it was the ability to re-lock bootloader with a custom key which is why Graphene OS is only developed for Pixels.

sabreW4K3 ,
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

I really need to install Graphene and have a proper play with it.

smeg ,

It's not that exciting, but that's a good thing - it works very well and is very similar to a stock experience!

steal_your_face ,
@steal_your_face@lemmy.ml avatar

You talk about android then bring up random points about the pixel phones. Those are two separate things. One could say android is doing well because multiple manufacturers have adopted the 7 year policy that google initially put forward. I mainly use iOS so not an android fanboy, but your rant isn’t really making a coherent point.

danielfgom ,
@danielfgom@lemmy.world avatar

I agree, from a user point of view, however from Google's point of view guys only job is to make money for the company, which he seems to be doing.

Android has been left to languish and especially the mid range and budget segment. Google had let OEM's use the largest sales market to keep selling junk low spec phones year after year with the same specs and no meaningful improvements. If you wanna really great cameras or wireless charging, your only choice is to buy a premium device. That locks out billions of people from having a great Android experience.

Even the premium segment hasn't seen that much improvement from Google. It's basically only Samsung who are pushing things forward through OneUI and through hardware Innovations like folding phones and zoom cameras to make the experience better.

I for one am tired of it and have decided that my next phone is an iPhone. For the same price as an A55 I can get a brand new iPhone 12 or for less I can get a refurbished model and have far superior cameras than any Android below €750 as well as years of OS updates and enjoy all the great user features Apple has added to iOS recently.

The last iPhone I had was the 7 and it was ok but my S7 Edge was better. I've been on Android since then but now iPhone has finally made some great improvements in both hardware and software which I think should offer me a better experience than budget Android.

YodaDaCoda ,

They're not concerned with product, they're concerned with profit. They're strategically cutting away bits and pieces that don't make money. Incidentally, these are all the fun and exciting bits, leaving behind the blandness.

Ilandar ,

That's a boring answer but it is sadly true for Google and every other big tech company currently. They focused on massive growth for years off the back of heavy investment but now that the financial climate is bad and interest rates are up, all these companies suddenly need to refocus the business around profitability. It's why this wave of enshittification has hit the internet within the last few years.

sabreW4K3 ,
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

It's a shame. I remember the Google+ days when they were playing with app redesigns. Those days were fun.

avidamoeba , (edited )
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Despite Sundar's leadership, do you think that extending update support to 7 years took no innovation? The Android team has been doing major system reworks to make this practical. The Tensor team has been working to do the same on the hardware side. Samsung is likely reusing firmware and software from that work given that the hardware is shares a lot of Samsung IPs. Prior to these developments Samsung was not interested in providing anywhere close to this length of support.

Android is in the best place it's ever been since its release. It's on more things than ever and we have the kind of update support we used to only dream about in 2008. And we have devices with unlockable and rekockable bootloaders. 🤯

sabreW4K3 ,
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

Samsung committed to seven years before Google and look at the length of support Apple were offering. Maybe we have different definitions of innovation.

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Maybe I'm out of the loop when did Samsung commit? Isn't the article about it happening now?

sabreW4K3 ,
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al avatar

Sorry, I remembered incorrectly and thus my information was wrong. They offered four years back when Google was only offering two

https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-phone-seven-years-security-updates/

Positronic , (edited )

They didn't, Google are the first to do three years of OS updates and security patches with the Pixel 2 and extended that to the first gen Pixel. Samsung were doing two OS updates until they promised they would do 3 OS updates at the Note20 launch and extended it to the S10 and other models. You are correct that they upgraded that to four with the S21 before Google made the jump from 3 to 7.

kalleboo , to Technology in Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards

Apple Pay/Google Pay already exists though?? What's new?

The last credit card I got, it took me like a month or two to bother unpacking the physical card since right after signup I could already add the virtual card to Apple Pay through the bank app and I just used that.

chiisana ,
@chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net avatar

They’ll try to pull out of Apple Pay/Google Pay. At least that’s what Walmart did / is doing for the longest time in favor of their CurrenC or whatever thing in the US.

Blisterexe ,
@Blisterexe@lemmy.zip avatar

Honestly I hope they do because I refuse to use google pay and I can't use apple pay

chiisana ,
@chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net avatar

At the end of the day, that’s just trading one spying conglomerate for another.

Blisterexe ,
@Blisterexe@lemmy.zip avatar

I know, that's why I don't use either

muntedcrocodile , to Technology in Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards

Wow we really are marching right to towards a centralised digital currency with no privacy and no actually ownership.

Remember back in the day when owning stock meant u owned the actually stocks. Well now u own the right to the stocks but if the platform ur trading on goes under welp out of luck guess u don't actually own them.

You will own nothing and be happy.

0x0 ,

Well now u own the right to the stocks

Isn't that called an option in the derivatives market? You can still own stock.

asdfasdfasdf , (edited )

What? That's not true. That's what SIPC is for. Just like if a bank goes under and it's FDIC insured, then you're fine.

https://robinhood.com/us/en/support/articles/how-youre-protected/

Texas_Hangover ,

SPIC lmao. They might want to rethink that acronym.

TheOccasionalTachyon ,

It's actually SIPC - the Securities Investor Protection Corporation, so there aren't any abbreviation problems.

Texas_Hangover ,

Oops! Dyslexia lol. My bad.

moon ,

I could not be happier for the death of physical cash. I despise it so much.

muntedcrocodile ,

I too enjoy sucking the governments dick as they creepily investigate everything I spend money on to ensure absolute social conformity.

Meron35 ,

This only applies to discount brokers, all of which are licensed, regulated brokers.

You do, in fact, “own” the stocks you buy.

The internal plumbing of securities clearing, settlement, and registration is not a concern to retail investors.

Stop buying into juvenile conspiracies.

And if for some reason you are still not satisfied, you can always opt for a "full service" broker or ask to register the shares in your name, both of which are much more expensive.

Do I own my shares? – Trading 212 - https://helpcentre.trading212.com/hc/en-us/articles/360008702918-Do-I-own-my-shares

chiisana ,
@chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net avatar

Vast majority of those who are vocal about “ownership” are from that reddit cult. They’ll drag you down to their level with nonsense and stupidity, trying to convince you that GameStop will make them multi-billionaires. Be careful and don’t waste too much of your time on them.

azalty ,
@azalty@jlai.lu avatar

This

Fuck credit cards, long life to cash!

bl4ckblooc , to Streetwear in This company sells jeans designed to make it look like you wet yourself

Pretty sure this is a running joke from Tim Robinson’s I Think You Should Leave

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

Have you been to Dan Flashes lately?

bl4ckblooc ,

They have the most intricate patterns.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

You see 40 other guys who look exactly like you fighting over shirts with the most complicated patterns you've ever seen, you go in! Yes you do!

the_frumious_bandersnatch ,

You gotta give!

BigTrout75 , to Technology in Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards

If a title asks a question, the answer is always "no". No?

____ ,

Betteridge’s Law.

Generally proves deeply true.

hal_5700X , to Technology in Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards
@hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works avatar

Physical cards are harder to mess with then a phone. Physical cards are safer.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

Can you explain that one to me? Anyone can take my card and use it, no one can take my phone and use it.. also I would notice my phone being gone sooner. Cards dont have to transfer to other devices and have to be readded with the banks verification. A card is as easy as beep and draw an X, or not even have to "sign".

plz1 ,

Until you get hit by a card skimmer. Encrypted NFC is safer than a physical card.

vrighter ,

and how, pray tell, do you think contactless cards work?

plz1 ,

I was referring to services like Apple Pay

BearOfaTime ,

I haven't used a swipe in years. Virtually all contact less now.

htrayl ,

I can put my credit card number in any transaction directly, and so can anyone else. Digital payment can provide a random one time card number (at the expense of privacy, admittedly). Physical cards are absolutely not safer.

limerod , to Android in Prominent Android manufacturers commit to supporting phone software for 7 years

This is old news, 5 months old. I thought they meant more manufacturers apart from google and samsung.

danielfgom , to Android in Prominent Android manufacturers commit to supporting phone software for 7 years
@danielfgom@lemmy.world avatar

The article says "manufacturers" but then only mentions Samsung in the article....

Not exactly a surprise tbh because they have to compete with iPhone. And I bet it's only for flagship devices. I can't see the budget devices getting this.

erwan ,

That's typical clickbait: give a vague title to make people click.

ArtikBanana ,

Google is also giving support for its Pixel devices since the Pixel 8 line.
And their Pixel 8a is also going to get 7 years of support, which is neat.

Hopefully others follow.

gravitas_deficiency , to Technology in Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards

lol for fucks sake this is so deeply stupid

TheFonz , to Technology in Is This the End of Plastic? Visa's New Technology Could Replace Physical Cards

Am I missing something or is this the most vaguely written description? I don't get it. Something biometric is all I got out of it

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