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frezik , to Technology in EVs Could Last Nearly Forever—If Car Companies Let Them

Which was also true of ICE cars. The Model T Ford had a major design flaw: everyone could work on it easily, parts were plentiful, and there was no reason to buy a replacement once you had it. In fact, there's enough of them still running, with an associated parts market, that you could still daily one if you wanted to.

keyez ,

So much so that TFLClassics on YouTube in Colorado bought a well maintained model T and drove it to the nearest dealership and had mechanics there change the oil and take it for a spin just the other week.

Fubarberry , to Technology in EVs Could Last Nearly Forever—If Car Companies Let Them
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LordWiggle , to Technology in EVs Could Last Nearly Forever—If Car Companies Let Them
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Friend of mine bought an EV. Didn't even last a month. He landed in a tree.
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/9cc06b60-ef40-4c2d-b436-f30b89abd72f.jpeg

Anamana ,

What was the issue? Do you know?

Kalkaline ,
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Probably turned off traction control and floored it. EVs have some pretty solid acceleration and weight a bit more than their ICE counterparts.

LordWiggle ,
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Nope, he drove 80km/h with traction control, but lost consciousness somehow. No lines on the road (out in the German countryside) so no line assist. Car went straight when there was a very mild turn, so he drove off the road, into some uphill ridge whi h launched him, woke up when flying through the air after which he landed in a bunch of trees.
This is where he landed. He luckily only had 4 broken ribs.

kescusay ,
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Jeez, he's lucky to be alive at all.

Anamana ,

Daaaamn crazy story. Scary you can just tap out like that. Good on him he didn't get injured too much

Hugh_Jeggs ,

Handing out driving licences like they were sweets instead of actually testing people's ability to drive, maybe?

LordWiggle ,
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This is often the issue. Not in this case though. He had his license for 24 years, while driving from the south of Germany to the Netherlands back and forth twice a month. He never had an accident before.

LordWiggle ,
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Lost consciousness for a bit. Unknown why.

Anamana ,

Not really the fault of the EV then tho :D

LordWiggle ,
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No, but it's still a factor why they may not last forever XD never underestimate human error.

psud ,

My car wouldn't have done that. Had I fallen unconscious it would either follow the road or stop

But that's also not because it's electric.

LordWiggle ,
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There were no stripes on the road so the line assist didn't work. He was unconscious for just a sec, he remembered seeing the slight turn, then to wake up while flying into the trees.

finley ,

"landed"?

deegeese ,
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Then the wheels just fell off. Stupid woke EVs are built to fail.

czl ,
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Goddamn planned obsolescence.

jonne ,

*planted obsolescence

afraid_of_zombies ,

Lemmy: Capitalism caused this.

In a socialist system cars would be tree proof.

bassad ,

damn wild trees crossing street

xmunk , to World News in New 9/11 Evidence Points to Deep Saudi Complicity - The Atlantic

Uh, we knew that, right? A lot of Al Qaeda's funding came from Saudi Arabia.

can OP ,

We did, sure, but ask a random person on a street, you're confident they know?

xmunk ,

Oh, absolutely not - political considerations made America stay buddy buddy with Saudi Arabia after 9/11. The state department avoided talking shit about the house of Saud even when falsely assigning blame to Iraq and Iran. One of the best parts of being a millennial is getting that "Obviously what we're saying is total bullshit" education in your youth.

some_guy , to World News in The New Propaganda War: Autocrats in China, Russia, and elsewhere are now making common cause with MAGA Republicans to discredit liberalism and freedom around the world

Margie was their first recruit.

gandalf_der_12te , to Technology in It’s the End of the Web as We Know It
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This reminds me a bit of this photo:

https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/b09edda4-5bc2-4725-a01d-3309807f1135.png

We thought the data was forever, but somehow not so.

lolola , to Not The Onion in Trump Suggests Planes Can’t Fly When It’s Not Sunny
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Just because there's been an influx of important political news relating to the former president (court decisions, trial delays, etc.) does not mean we need a bunch of "Trump says" articles again.

Evehn , to Technology in EVs Could Last Nearly Forever—If Car Companies Let Them
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I had already read of the first teslas model S getting to 1M km with ordinary maintenance alone, so it should be pretty easy to achieve. Of course it won't be done as it wouldn't be profitable.

Imgonnatrythis , to Technology in EVs Could Last Nearly Forever—If Car Companies Let Them

I bet smartphones could last 3 or 4 years even if companies let them 😏

nexussapphire ,

Imagine being able to opt into an long term support branch when you feel your phone starting to lag, unlocked bootloader's, and have user replaceable batteries.

Still mad about accidentally installing the newer version of iOS on my iPad pro. Such a meaningful feature to have security patches without slowdown from newer versions.

EngineerGaming ,
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Imagine being able to opt into an long term support branch when you feel your phone starting to lag

That's kind of what LineageOS does.

nexussapphire ,

I wish more bootloader's came unlocked these days. I got a Google pixel for that, the seven years of promised updates, and parts.

Though I think it would be cheaper to buy a used pixel 8 from eBay and the adhesive from ifixit if I end up braking the screen in a few years I'm more interested in being able to get a fresh battery without guessing if it was salvaged from a heavily used phone.

Edit: phones should be more like the laptops from the early 2000s damnit. I don't care if my phone is a little thicker than a pencil at least it'll hide the camera bump.

EngineerGaming ,
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I am very anxious even with normal maintenance - heating adhesive up is not something I am capable of now. So was looking at new last-gen Pixels instead, and 7a is $300 :( People I know who have it say it's good hardware, but that's still an insane sum to spend on a phone.

nexussapphire ,

Tbh it's not a bad price looking at what other phones are out at that price. Your looking at a great screen, awesome camera, ok battery life, and snappy enough performance for everyday stuff.

At the end of the day it's what you can afford and what you need. If you have a small repair shop nearby it wouldn't hurt to give it a try, see how expensive the repair might bee. If your current phone is fine then keep using it, if you need a phone on a budget I'd go used, anything new under $200 will most likely be worse than anything you can get used, and if you want something new that pixel 7a wouldn't be half bad tbh.

baatliwala ,

What are you even doing, throwing your phone on the ground? How does your phone not last that long

SupraMario ,

I don't get how people are replacing their phones so damn often. I buy used flagships that are usually a year or two old and rock them for another 4 years. Note 10+ here, and I've had it for around 3 years now, probably won't upgrade for another 2 years, as it's perfectly fine still.

mipadaitu ,

Trade in value drops very rapidly for non-iphones after a year or two. You can often get 50% back on the purchase by trading in a functional phone.

If you buy a new phone every 2 years or every 4 years, it's often about the same total out of pocket cost (with a lot of exceptions)

BearOfaTime ,

I've never paid more than $150 for a phone, and that's recently for a 2 year old pixel.

I can keep multiple spares around for the price of a new phone.

WalrusDragonOnABike ,

My current phone is almost 3.5 years old and I have no intention on upgrading anytime soon, but in the past I did tend to have to replace a phone about every two years. Mostly because POGO (and my being rough with them). Ports being damaged (and me not knowing how to repair them myself and others wanting to charge the cost of a new phone to repair it), being dropped, etc.

Manifish_Destiny ,

I'm still using my OnePlus 8t. Phones lifespans are fine. If you can't keep your phone working for 4 years, that's on you.

I see no reason to upgrade until support is dropped.

drawerair ,

My Samsung a70 doesn't get major software updates anymore. I'm OK with it. I'll use this as long as possible.

Manifish_Destiny ,

For security reasons, don't do that. Don't use things older than the supported android version. It's fucking Linux. It gets vulnerabilities.

stoy ,

iPhones tend to last 5 or so years for me....

BearOfaTime ,

Wait, are you saying my phone should last less time than it does?

My current phone is from 2017.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

I just got a new phone despite my previous one being totally fine because it's no longer getting security updates. I've had it for ~4 years with no issues, so I got a Pixel for longer security updates.

So yeah, they totally could last longer if they kept supporting them.

breakfastmtn , to World News in The Gaza Death Toll Is Confusing And Unreliable
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Archive link.

hedge OP , to World News in The Israeli Defense Establishment Revolts Against Netanyahu
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I keep trying to post this to World News on BH but it then it ends up on lemmy.ml instead!

atocci ,
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It's on BeeHaw from my perspective at least

MaggiWuerze ,

Dito

awwwyissss ,

I think this is too nuanced for lemmy.ml to handle, they prefer black and white

Paragone , to Biodiversity in Enough With Saving the Honeybees/The Truth About the Bees

Colony-collapse disorder is an actual thing.

I'd read some research-result release that said there is a specific virus-fungus combination that all colony-collapse hives had both of ( & their immune-systems were essentially non-functional: they were infected with EVERYTHING ),

vs colonies which had 0 or 1 of the 2.

I don't remember the names of either the virus or the fungus.

When we keep importing/exporting contaminated bits of wildlife, there are consequences.

Diplomjodler3 , to Science Fiction in The Sci-Fi Writer Who Invented Conspiracy Theory

That's not how I remember the story but I haven't read it in a long time. Time for a re-read. Cordwainer Smith is one of my favourite sci-fi authors of all time though, and yes his views will definitely grate with a lot of people these days.

menemen , to Technology in Welcome to the Golden Age of User Hostility
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To understand how unhinged our society is one only needs to understand how we constantly improve our technology, but don't use it to improve us as a society.

KingThrillgore , to Technology in EVs Could Last Nearly Forever—If Car Companies Let Them
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Well that's just not going to happen.

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