PanArab ,

Higher temperatures have been recorded last year but I think the heat is starting earlier this year?

afraid_of_zombies ,

Don't worry Pakistan Greenpeace banned nuclear power and brought back coal, that will save you from the ravages of global warming

palmtrees2308 ,

Hats off to delivery people, soldiers, guards, roadside sellers for not dying in this heat apocalypse

Hugh_Jeggs ,

Best keep the hats on, eh

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

Welcome to Pakistan, we have:

  • drunken COAS with nukes
  • smog
  • the hot
  • fresh fruit
TropicalDingdong ,

mmm fruit

3volver ,

Hm, strange. I wonder if there's anything we can do about it?

Sam_Bass , (edited )

Heck.i work in those temps for 12 hours a pop. Couldnt stand it 24 hrs a day

blazera ,
@blazera@lemmy.world avatar

Nah, more SUVs

systemglitch ,

I'm with you, but it's not the SUVs that are causing the problem, it's the fucking corporations that contribute over 80% of the harmful emissions.

But fuck SUVs and big ass trucks.

blazera ,
@blazera@lemmy.world avatar

I start to wonder if corporate executives themselves arent responsible for this myth that the meaningful bulk of emissions comes from them. So consumers can feel guilt free about buying these gas guzzling chunkers, after all their choices dont have any meaningful effect on emissions.

But no, corporate headquarters doesnt have a giant smokestack spewing out those corporate emissions you hear about. Those emissions are coming from...SUV tailpipes! Transportation is the highest emissions sector in the US, and personal vehicles make up the bulk of those emissions, especially trucks and SUVs.

thejml ,

Actually, it’s electricity and heating:

https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector

Transportation is number two (by quite a bit) but don’t forget that Transportation of goods is also part of transportation.

Not saying we shouldn’t give up the SUVs, just that maybe we should use less power and heat with something cleaner as well.

RustyEarthfire ,

Definite agree with the core of what you're saying, though for US and EU (and to a lesser degree "High income countries"), the numbers are quite close, as clean grid energy is significantly outpacing electric vehicle adoption (and EVs rely on a clean grid to be clean).

Wanderer ,

What do this corporations do to cause 80% of emissions? Just burn it for fun?

No. They make products and services that people buy. Making out people play no part in this doesn't help anyone.

systemglitch ,

I mean like, duh?

StaySquared , (edited )

I find it fascinated.. one side of their mouth, they're hating corporations. Other side, they're praising the product(s) they buy from said corporations. If any of these so called, "combatants of climate change" were true to their beliefs, they'd go find a piece of wilderness and live in it.

ArmoredThirteen ,

Hottest I've ever been in is 114f iirc in a dry heat. It was brutal like "you can feel moisture evaporating out of your eyes", I felt like just sitting around I couldn't drink water as fast as I was losing it. 125 is bonkers

werefreeatlast ,

50C is near OSHA's max limit to touch safe zones which is 60C. At 60C, no matter how many seconds, you will get burnt. At 50C you can hold an object for a few seconds safely.

boonhet ,

But also keep in mind that it's usually air temperature being measured, with surface temperatures being even worse than that!

homesweethomeMrL ,

My family: We should save the planet!

Me: great, let’s all eat less meat!

My family: . . . No

jjjalljs ,

This one bugs me so much. Like I'm not even aiming for full veganism. Just... less meat.

No.

"But I like it!" Irrelevant to the problem.

"Other people are worse". Irrelevant to the problem unless you want to go start doing vigilante justice.

exanime ,

"Other people are worse". Irrelevant to the problem unless you want to go start doing vigilante justice.

I wouldn't say irrelevant to the problem... Most of the stuff we as individuals can do, amount to trying to put out a tire fire by clapping... Even millions of us won't make almost any difference, specially when you have 10 assholes who, instead of clapping are actively pouring gas on the fire

I'm 100% on board with the clapping... But I'm not kidding myselft that we are going to save ourselves until we eliminate the firebugs

SpermHowitzer ,

Well, according to kissmyOSfeddit, we don’t even need to eat less meat. We can sous-vide it on the sidewalk now! Sounds like a serious win-win to me.

EinfachUnersetzlich ,

It's the raising of the animals before they're slaughtered that's the problem, not the cooking after they're dead.

egeres ,
@egeres@lemmy.world avatar

I have decreased my meat consumption to about a third than it used to be in recent years. I'm not qualified to do an in-depth study about all the ramifications of the CO2 emissions, but agriculture being just about 11.2% of all emissions sounds like eating less cow won't cut it to "save ourselves"

I have a hunch that shit will hit the fan and there will be a massive reduction in CO2 emissions because of a supply chain failure. Third world countries produce the vast majority of "low manufacturing complexity" products, which will be made even more unsustainable if those regions become a scorched earth. That, coupled with a lesser incentive to travel due to an adverse climatic situation, and a trend in population decrease due to an overall quality of life degradation, will really be the reason why we will reduce emissions, simply because things stop working and become unsustainable

Either way, I don't think it's possible to really predict the future and even less so in such a complex society where technology might be a game changer all of the sudden, so my opinion is not really that valid. Even educated estimates using proper statistics/data cannot guess the implications of new wars, AI, new scientific breakthroughs etc

afraid_of_zombies ,

Greenpeace: we should save the planet!

Me: great, let's build nuclear power so we can shut down fossile fuels

Greenpeace: ....No

jabjoe ,
@jabjoe@feddit.uk avatar

Too late. Somewhere so sunny can get a lot of solor quickly. Building nuclear power plants takes time and releases a lot of CO2. Batteries and solor now now. Cheapest power too.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Only too late because Greenpeace stopped it for decades. Hope you have a plan for your solar waste. Cheapest because you just let China throw it away for you.

jabjoe ,
@jabjoe@feddit.uk avatar

Cheapest because the fuel is for free. Waste plan should be recycling.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Go ahead and show me your solar recycling plant. I want to see it. Must have a carbon footprint lower than nuclear or you lose.

jabjoe ,
@jabjoe@feddit.uk avatar

It's a new area, but there are companies : https://www.recyclesolar.co.uk/

Life cycle comparing isn't as simple as your thinking:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0301421506002758 Happy to look if you have a unbiased source for life cycle emissions comparison.

But costs and time is a no brainer:
https://www.energysage.com/about-clean-energy/nuclear-energy/solar-vs-nuclear/

You as also don't want to be burning coal for a decade while you build a nuclear power plant. Then it's expensive to run compared to solar too. The CO2 costs of waiting for nuclear should be included for nuclear too.

afraid_of_zombies ,

I know it's a new area. I am involved with it. Now show me the one that has a lower carbon footprint today. Including batteries btw no cheating

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
@Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world avatar

Those nuclear power plants won't come online for a decade at least. It's better to spend the money on renewables and storage.

JohnEdwa , (edited )
@JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz avatar

First step: just eat less beef.

Even that alone is enough to make a quite decent impact.

azimir ,

Hey look, that FO stage of FAFO is well underway. Hold onto your butts people, there's going to be some serious self punishment for our generations of polluting the world for personal convenience and money.

Rookwood ,

It will be felt most by those least responsible.

azimir ,

Very much so. It's completely unjust and we (me included) have been beyond wasteful in spending the Co2 (and other climate altering materials) irresponsibly for far too long.

floofloof ,

The poor and low-polluting people of the world are being punished for the actions of the wealthy and highly polluting.

azimir ,

So very true. The vast majority of the climate damage has come from the US, China, and Europe, but more equatorial regions are going to be crushed by the heat for an unknown time. The cost to humanity is likely going to be beyond anything our models have projected.

Buffalox , (edited )

125° F that's above boiling temperature in Flaffenfeit!!! But boiling what is the question? Probably somebody's temper.

deegeese ,
@deegeese@sopuli.xyz avatar

That’s a common misunderstanding.

125°F means it is 25% hotter than 100% too hot.

Buffalox , (edited )

So 125° F is like saying it's WAY TOO HOT!
Thank you, I think I'm beginning to understand Flaffenfeit better now.

It's a bit like measuring in yards, but they never say whether it's front yards or back yards, which is quite significant IMO. But even a hundred yards isn't very far, so I guess they must have some pretty funny small yards over there.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

It’s nearly the boiling point of Acetone

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