You could try to make up some other shit to cover for it, how school told them that the kid needs to do chores at home for those two days or something. With their system it'd make sense to have a plan for this situation.
Or you just enjoy it while it lasts and drop it when it fails
I'm not sure if the term "gaslighting" fits here. This just seems like run of the mill lying and manipulating.
Victims of gaslighting are deliberately and systematically fed false information that leads them to question what they know to be true, often about themselves. They may end up doubting their memory, their perception, and even their sanity.
Gaslighting would seem like it'd be more that if they knew weekends were a thing befohand then you'd lie that they imagined it all (and that they might even be crazy for having thought that).
Not at all, but I'm also not stumped by having the sink full so much that I'm literally not capable of washing the dishes lmao. A kid might believe that since kids are fucking idiots but not an adult, surely
I love how this has got you absolutely stumped. You can pick stuff from the sink and put it out of the way. You can pile it on the goddamn floor if you need to. Whether your kid puts the dishes away or not is actually what allows you to wash the dishes. You could also move them. But you say the kid needs to do that so you can wash the dishes (even though you could wash them without it). It just makes it more convenient. See what I mean?
I have a small kitchen and a small sink. I somehow still understand the concept of piling them on some other surface for a moment so I can wash other dishes in the sink. I'm genuinely amazed by how a supposedly functioning adult seems to genuinely think their actual ability to wash the dishes hinges on whether their kid puts them away or not. Imagine if the kid didn't do that, would you really, actually, just not be able to in any way wash the dishes? I just can't believe that.
You're telling your kid to put the dishes away because it makes things easier and convenient. It's not an actual requirement for your ability to wash dishes, but I wouldn't bother explaining that to a kid either. I'd just say put the dishes away so we can wash them. It's not the whole truth but it's a kid so I wouldn't care either. This is unless you genuinely think your ability to wash the dishes hinges on your kid putting them away. In which case, wow.
I can't believe an adult just can't wrap their head around this, bless your heart.
Maybe this will help: You tell your kid to put the dishes away, claiming so you can wash the dishes. But it's not true in that you could wash the dishes without them having been put away. It just wouldn't be as convenient. You could pile the dishes somewhere else, hell outside on the ground (lol) to make room in the sink and whatever while you clean other dishes. But it'd be inconvenient and stupid. You could wash the dishes on the kitchen table, but that'd also be inconvenient and stupid. You could do a lot of things but they wouldn't be as convenient (and could be really stupid). So it's not really that the dishes need to be put away so you can wash your dishes, it's just it is much more convenient to do so. So what you are saying to the kid isn't true in that sense.
I didn't say at all what you should say, I was just noting that what you're saying isn't exactly the truth. It wasn't a value judgement or even advice.
"if you don't put the dishes away, I will be forced to take them all outside and bring them in one by one and wash them."
If you want help workshopping this you could say that it's just more convenient to put them away. That'd be true without being very convoluted, if being 100% honest was the goal. Whether it should be or not, imo not.
If they understand that then it seems like you could say that it's just more convenient and it'd be the same, but also 100% truthful. Assuming that's the goal.
Yes, again, my child is smart enough to understand nuance. She doesn't have to have everything put to her 100% literally. I'm not sure why your children do.
Sounds like your daughter might have you beat there since I didn't say she doesn't, I didn't say she does, I didn't say they do.
Also, I hope you're not the one who is responsible for telling your children the difference between things like "honest" and "100% literally true" or they are fucked.
You wouldn't be too busy after quitting your job so whether or not it's a lie depends on if you had quit your job before answering. If you had quit it and didn't have anything to do at that moment then yeah it'd be a lie. If you still had your job when you answered then you wouldn't be lying.
I can picture you at a restaurant after a waiter lists the specials. “Those are made of conventional ingredients I could buy at a grocery store and cook myself, so they aren’t really special now are they? You’re lying to me!”
I thought the list specials meant it was something outside of the ordinary menu, making them special to the list. If they claim they're made of special ingredients and it's the same ingredients from the regular store you visit, then they probably are taking you for a ride tbh.
If they don't specify how they're special then they need to be special in any way for what they say to be true though. If they say they're special in a certain way and they aren't, then that'd be a lie.
By the way, how many children do you have?
Remember, if it’s zero, you wouldn’t want to lie like you did earlier when I asked you what you told them and you responded.
Not sure why you think I wouldn't want to lie or why you think I lied earlier.
Got it. Lying by omission is not lying. You need to contact the world’s justice systems and let them know.
I'm not sure what omission you are talking about.
Okay, then what is even the point of this conversation? Are you just bored and looking for someone to be contentious with?
I just wanted to make the original point. And now I'm just replying to your messages (even though the original discussion seem to be over) because I feel like it'd be rude not to.
Your “original point” was that I was lying to my daughter by not coming up with unreasonable alternatives even though she clearly knew what I meant and understood what I was saying.
Sorta, I just meant that yeah you were lying because the actual reason was convenience. As for the specials example, I'm not sure it really worked (or you didn't properly work it out), since in that case the special was actually special in some form. If you meant that it wasn't actually special in any way but I was expected to know it wasn't supposed to be, it would be closer, in that it would also be lying.'
What was the omission you talked about earlier btw?
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I was more thinking when Russia invaded and tried to encircle Kyiv and whatnot. But yeah, when you fight against an attacker, it's defence. It's a general term rather than a value position.
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