MindTraveller ,

All of the the three little pigs had a chinny chin chin

SankaraStone ,
@SankaraStone@lemmy.world avatar

Would you mate with somebody who didn't have a chin? Chins are sexy.

MindTraveller ,

Why are chins sexy?

SuddenDownpour ,

Because otherwise you might be mating with a Neanderthal.

Tak ,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

By DNA analysis that was completely on the table till they went extinct.

SuddenDownpour ,

No "till", plenty of living beings have vestigial elements that were positive at some point of their history, yet no longer are, but are still maintained because there isn't evolutionary pressure to get rid of them.

Tak ,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

"They" was towards neanderthals not vestigial elements. They are extinct.

SuddenDownpour ,

Homo Sapiens develop a mutation XYZ that makes them not be attracted towards Neanderthals -> Neanderthals go extinct -> XYZ is NOW vestigial.

Tak , (edited )
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

The genes were from Neanderthals not to make them unattractive and they're also not vestigial. One is a very common gene related to blood clotting and can cause a higher risk of heart disease.

In other words, humans were fucking Neanderthals and we know it because of DNA. If they had never gone extinct it is without question the boinking would have continued.

Kacarott ,

Because they make people want to mate with you

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Why do they make people want to mate with me?

CoggyMcFee ,

Because they’re sexy. We’ve been over this.

Hotzilla ,

Same as boobs, Human female breasts are mainly sexual, they are too large for babies to feed.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

I'm Asian and this is not true for my breasts, tyvm

Holyginz ,

I refuse to believe that someone is dumb enough to actually believe this.

Hotzilla ,

What? No other mammal has breasts like human females, and they are full of touch senses unlike other. They are clearly part of human sexuality.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

did you have a stroke and forget the second part of your comment?

Holyginz ,

I'm pretty sure they did.

set_secret ,

Elephants do for a start.

Snowclone ,

I'm sorry, but this isn't correct, adult human females have breasts to hide when they are in estrus, by always being swollen, it's called hidden estrose, it's a whole thing. This has a lot of data backing it up. I KNOW I'M SPELLING IT WRONG! PROOFREADING IS THE LAST RETREAT OF COWARDS!!!!

rob_t_firefly ,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

they are too large for babies to feed.

Then it seems I must have seen some of them fake it really convincingly for some reason.

FiniteBanjo ,

I figure walking upright made being hit from below more common, necessitating thicker bones to protect the very sensitive nerves of the jaw.

Naz ,

Artificial Intelligence Analysis:

The chin is situated near the area where the tongue and jawbone interact during speech. It's possible that the chin provides a surface for the tongue to move against, allowing for more complex sounds and articulations. The development of language is believed to have occurred around the same time as the emergence of Homo sapiens. While other primates have similar facial structures, they don't possess a distinct chin. This suggests that the chin might be related to the unique demands of human language.

Bingo -- other animals don't have a chin because they didn't invent languages like humans did for communication, and thus the demands of speaking weren't evenly distributed.

Next time on interesting questions 104: Why did homo sapiens develop language when other animals such as Corvids did not?

SPRUNT ,

This makes more sense than the need to put on pillow cases (which has been my prevailing theory up to this point), but your question about corvids intrigues me. Partially because I'm not entirely certain of what a corvids is.

Naz ,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvidae

Corvids/Corvidae is a species of birds which include crows and ravens - they have demonstrated complex intelligence via tool use and social circles, so they're comparable to human intelligence of some specific various ages/milestones, but didn't invent a spoken language.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@lemmy.world avatar

Or, for example, a jackdaw is also a crow.

jawa21 ,
@jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Here's the thing...

Hadriscus ,

I do lick my chin a lot when articulating language. As we all do, right...? fellow humanoids ?

FiniteBanjo ,

You're the only person who asked, keep that shit to yourself.

livingcoder ,

This was a good, short read. Worth the time.

Seasoned_Greetings ,

I read somewhere sometime ago that the theory that makes the most sense is that we evolved chins to take a punch, which animals besides our immediate evolutionary relatives do not do.

So we evolved chins as an evolutionary advantage over our immediate evolutionary relatives who would logically be competing for the same resources.

Mobiuthuselah ,

I read something at some point about how our fists seemed to have evolved or at least adapted to be well suited to delivering a punch. Many people do not use proper hand forms for it, but I suppose it's a learned skill if not at least through trial and error.

jupyter_rain ,
@jupyter_rain@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Great, now I have a scenario in my head where one early human delivers a punch and dies of having not the right hands and the other dies because no chin.
Also: Imagine our fists if there had been more habsburgs.

MrSpArkle ,

The chin would act as a lever no? The longer the chin the harder your brain is shaken.

Seasoned_Greetings ,

I'm a little shakey on the details but I think it has more to do with the extra bone mass in relation to the way the jaw functions. It acts more like a shock absorbing bumper than a lever.

Other animals that get punched there tend to take that blow more to the throat, which is a bit more problatic

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Mutual aid

TokenBoomer ,

Because of mewing. Every sigma knows this.

erp ,

If I am not mistaken, according to the grammatical scrolls, having a chin makes everyone .. chinese

ikidd ,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

More chins than a Chinese phone book.

gedaliyah OP ,
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

Boooooooo

(take my upvote)

Pulptastic ,

If other animals don't have chins, they're using a weird definition of chin.

mearce ,

TIL chins are only chins because they stick out. I had always considered the front of a lower jaw to be a "chin".

Blackrook7 ,

In other words some people really have no chin...

frightful_hobgoblin ,

Except for Cowboy Cerrone. No chin on him at all heh.

MossyFeathers ,

This is why it bothers me when artists add chins to animalistic characters. It looks so wrong. An example:

https://pawb.social/pictrs/image/c50858ec-4a60-41ce-ac1d-71ad171a4fc0.jpeg

Like, shit. Cool character design but you gave the cat lady a chin. Cats don't have chins, why did you give her a chin?

tamal3 ,

I see a chin on my cat?

Brunbrun6766 ,
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

You see a chin area yes, but it is simply the bottom of the jaw. The human chin has actual muscle that goes below the jaw bone and can be moved ever so slightly which aids in facial expression.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentalis?wprov=sfla1

MossyFeathers ,

As bigfig said, your cat probably doesn't have a chin. That said, you might consider feeling your cat's chin to see if it's actually a chin and not just fluff or something.

If you feel a boney protrusion similar to a human's chin, then you should unironically contact an evolutionary researcher. They might be fascinated about your cat having an actual chin as humans and only humans (not even neanderthals) are the only known chin-havers. Who knows, your cat might be the "missing link" between chinned and chinless humanoids.

PythagreousTitties , (edited )

I scratch my cats chin all the time. What are you on about? (Edit: I be wrong. There's no chin there)

https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-8be44/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/2549/4697/CatSkeletalAnatomy__24888.1345374154.jpg?c=2

awesome_lowlander ,

Jaw vs chin, I'm guessing the difference is fairly small.

PythagreousTitties ,

Looked at wiki. The chin apparently is just the part of bone that juts out under the lower lip. So yeah, no chin on the cat.

lauha ,

They don't have opposable thumbs, go into night clubs, walk bipedally or have those wing things either, why is it the chin that bothers you?

That character is mostly a cat skinned human.

MossyFeathers , (edited )

Many animals, including most felids and canids, have a fifth toe (aka dew claw), which could potentially evolve into a thumb. You don't normally see it on domestic dogs though, because if I'm not mistaken, it usually gets cut off when they're a puppy due to it being weak and having a tendency to get caught on things.

Alternatively, there is polydactylism in cats, which can give them extra toes that can help them grab things (I've seen a video of a polydactyl cat using it's extra foretoe like a thumb, though I can't find it). It seems possible that, overtime, an extra foretoe like that might eventually provide enough of a evolutionary benefit for it to become a standard feature.

If cats evolved human-like intelligence, they'd absolutely have night clubs of some kind. That said, I'm not convinced that cats don't already have human-like intelligence and aren't just choosing to not use it, but that's beside the point.

Walking bipedally is something a lot of smaller mammals can do as well, it just isn't their normal mode of locomotion because their bodies aren't currently designed for it. Going the evolution route again, however, and it's possible that a species might eventually decide to stand up like humans did. Edit: I forgot about birds, dinosaurs and semi-bipedal mammals like the pangolin. Birds and pre-historic theropods walked on two legs, and pangolins have heavy tails they can use to balance on their hind legs so their forelegs are free to dig at ant mounds. So humans aren't the only animals that walk on two legs.

The wing things are part of her clothing.


You're correct that being bothered by a chin alone is strange, but,

A) people have weird things that bother them, sometimes illogically

B) I kinda look at anthropomorphic animals as being evolved from their real world counterparts, so I tend to rationalize things in regards to how they might have evolved. It makes it more believable for me.

C) iirc, in the context of the movie that specific character is from, thats actually someone's VR avatar. As such, it makes sense to make human concessions like opposable thumbs, five fingers and toes (cats technically have five toes on each forepaw, four toes on each hind paw), walking plantigrade, etc. A chin seems like an odd concession to make. From the article, it doesn't really give humans any really evolutionary advantage so it's not like you're gonna be unable to do something because you don't have a chin; and based on what I've seen in the furry community, chins on anthros doesn't really seem to have much of an aesthetic appeal either (otherwise nearly every fursona would have an obvious chin).

D) It just looks weird. Idk man, it just looks weird to me.

That said, I don't tend to mind hybrids or mythical creatures like gryphons, dragons, dragon-cats, or whatever, so idk. It just looks weird to me and I guess the thing about humans being the only ones with chins is a explanation and justification for why I find it weird-looking.

Zess ,

That's a lot of words just to try and justify posting a picture from your furry porn collection.

lauha ,

You answered your own question in your own question. Cats could potentially evolve a chin just like they could evolve an opposable thumb

Sorgan71 ,

Call me shane dawson because I wanna put my dick near this cat.

awesome_lowlander ,

I believe in not kink shaming, but that's just TMI

Thcdenton ,
OozingPositron ,
@OozingPositron@feddit.cl avatar

lmao

this_1_is_mine ,

Why does it look like she has nipple piercings that couldn't be contained.

DAMunzy ,

Thanks, new kink unlocked.

Etterra ,

Burn it.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Isn't the point of this art to be an anthropomorphic cat? In that case, the chin is appropriate

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

except, as you can see, it makes them look terrifying, not like a cat.

you want khajiit, not Cats 2019

odelik ,

You're complaining about a chin on an anthropomorphic cat woman that only has 2 breast's instead of 6 to 8...

Rai ,

Based and put-more-titties-on-that-cat pilled

errer ,

Yet again proving Chads are the pinnacle of evolution

Liz ,

Everything alive today is the pinnacle of evolution.

DannyBoy ,

A chihuahua is not a pinnacle of anything.

AstralPath ,

Dude, don't disparage the chihuahua. They're the pinnacle of anxiety; something many of us can relate with.

niktemadur ,

Nah, I'm of the view that evolution doesn't grow upwards, but sudeways. We are at the edge.

dohpaz42 ,
@dohpaz42@lemmy.world avatar

Useful in fighting as it helps protect the lower jaw and teeth?

But then again, it could simply be a trait we have developed over the millennia, and there is no deeper meaning to it.

olafurp ,

I think this is plausible, also the fact that when you lean your head a little bit forward you expose the front of the skull which is the thickest part while the chin prevents people from punching your neck.

massive_bereavement ,
@massive_bereavement@fedia.io avatar

Otherwise we couldn't chin up.

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