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iAvicenna , to World News in New German citizens required to affirm Israel's right to exist
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Israel definitely has the right to exist. But so do a hundred odd other countries. Yet you do not acknowledge each of them one by one. All Germany has to do going forward is provide the necessary education on dangers of anti semitism, fascism and take this task very seriously. This is just meaningless over compensation or even worse maybe the result of meaningless lobbying.

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  • iAvicenna ,
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    Oh hi chancellor of Germany lol

    jordanlund Mod ,
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    Removed, civility.

    ThePyroPython , to World News in New German citizens required to affirm Israel's right to exist

    How about affirming the two-state solution. You know, the one that everyone sensible has been pushing for to resolve this conflict.

    ghostdoggtv , to World News in New German citizens required to affirm Israel's right to exist

    Israel can have the Gaza strip if Palestine gets to take control of the rest of Israel. Problem solved.

    furzegulo , to Not The Onion in Hungry Palestinians looking for food made Israeli soldiers feels unsafe, says army

    israeli soldiers seem a lot liike american cops

    foggy ,

    Probably have the same arms dealers.

    Reverendender , to World News in Wikipedia declares Anti-Defamation League 'unreliable' on Israel, antisemitism: Report
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    Wait, Fox News isn't banned?

    lemmyng ,
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    Goes to show how low the bar is that the ADL failed to meet.

    DolphinMath ,

    From Wikipedia

    Fox News[r] (news excluding politics and science)

    Historically, there has been consensus that Fox News is generally reliable for news coverage on topics other than politics and science. However, many editors expressed concerns about the reliability of Fox News for any topic in a 2023 RFC. No formal consensus was reached on the matter, though. See also: Fox News (politics and science)Fox News (talk shows).

    TachyonTele ,

    Thier actual news reporting is basically fine. It's the other 90% of their content that's all talking heads that blatantly lies about everything where the problems come in.

    I have a relative that only watched the channel. When the actual news segments come it's like a wave of fresh air. But then it very quickly changes to the talking heads bullshit.

    I'd never willingly watch any of it though.

    Hello_there , to World News in Wikipedia declares Anti-Defamation League 'unreliable' on Israel, antisemitism: Report

    Spicy

    dogsnest ,
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    Dicy.

    febra , to World News in Wikipedia declares Anti-Defamation League 'unreliable' on Israel, antisemitism: Report

    Because it is. The ADL is conflating antizionism with antisemitism, thus labeling even a ton of antizionist jews as antisemitic.

    Tryptaminev ,

    It is deliberate an in itself an act of antisemitism by the ADL definition, which is an irony they turn a blind eye to ofc.

    The ADL is a zionist organization. They benefit from all Jews being lumped together with Israel and they strife from antisemitic attacks. This way the ethnonationalist idea of one state for each ethnicity and "no safety for Jews outside Israel" can be furthered. Incidently this is the same what Nazi style antisemites want and there is a history of collaboration between Nazis and Zionists.

    NoneOfUrBusiness , to World News in Wikipedia declares Anti-Defamation League 'unreliable' on Israel, antisemitism: Report

    It's a surprise it was considered reliable before, but better late than never I guess.

    Linkerbaan OP ,
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    I had quite a few discussions with users here quoting wikipedia articles which used the ADL as a source. I was just as surprised as you are as the ADL has not been reliable in the past either. Might have had something to do with

    Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups

    istanbullu , to World News in Wikipedia declares Anti-Defamation League 'unreliable' on Israel, antisemitism: Report

    ADL is supporting ethnic clensing and mass murder.

    gigachad , to Germany in Germany detains Gaza surgeon Ghassan Abu Sittah and 'refuses him entry'

    There is no details in this article about why he was refused entry. Without that information it is impossible to assess the situation. The article in general feels like it is part of the propaganda war which is maybe more suited for communities such as !worldnews

    Linkerbaan OP ,
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    What propaganda war? Germany's propaganda war on Palestinians by blocking and arresting people that are telling the truth about israel's Genocide in Gaza? Seems pretty relevant here.

    the_wise_wolf ,

    Yeah, I tried to understand what's going on, but it's not easy to wade through all the propaganda. And at this point I don't really care anymore. It looks like the congress was shut down because of a video by a guy named Salman Abu Sitta, who is considered an extremist by German authorities. Now they prevented this (other?) guy, Abu Sittah from entering. Could this be a mix-up? Who knows.

    Eheran , to World News in Israel's defence against Iran attack overnight 'likely cost over $1bn'

    How much would it cost NOT to shoot them down?

    rdri ,

    That's the point of iron dome system. It only shoots down rockets that would otherwise hit targets that would cost more to rebuild/restore. At least that's the case with hamas rockets - they are predictable enough. Drones are a different story.

    DolphinMath , to World News in Wikipedia declares Anti-Defamation League 'unreliable' on Israel, antisemitism: Report

    Primary source for those interested.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources

    Anti-Defamation League (ADL)(excluding the Israel/Palestine conflict)

    There is consensus that outside of the topic of the Israel/Palestine conflict, the ADL is a generally reliable source, including for topics related to hate groups and extremism in the U.S. There is no consensus that ADL must be attributed in all cases, but there is consensus that the labelling of organisations and individuals by the ADL (particularly as antisemitic) should be attributed. Some editors consider the ADL's opinion pieces not reliable, and that they should only be used with attribution. Note that the ADL's reliability on antisemitism and the reliability of its database of hate symbols is currently being discussed.

    Anti-Defamation League (ADL)(Israel/Palestine conflict)

    There is consensus that the ADL is a generally unreliable source for the Israel/Palestine conflict, owing to occasional misinformation favoring the Israeli government with respect to the conflict.

    Silverseren , to World News in US involved in Israeli operation in Nuseirat that killed over 200 Palestinians

    I wonder how the four hostages feel that their rescue involved the murdering of dozens of women and children on the same day.

    I would hope they have the empathy to feel guilty about that, but considering what the general Israeli poster (and Israeli population member, based on polls) is like, I doubt they view Palestinians as human.

    AmidFuror ,

    Feel guilty for getting captured by one set of murdering lunatics and then freed by another set? Why? What was their misdeed? Going to a concert? Surviving a massacre?

    Skydancer ,

    It's called Survivor's Guilt. It may not be rational, but emotions often aren't. And yes, they're likely to wind up with it for both surviving the October 7th raid AND for the deaths in the raid that freed them. Along with all sorts of other trauma related mental health issues.

    assassin_aragorn ,

    Man, I don't know how I could stomach that guilt. Knowing that your rescue came at the cost of many more innocent civilians killed and wounded, including children. I don't think I'd be able to look at any of the victims who survived in the face, let alone grieving family.

    What's really twisted is it isn't the hostages' faults either that all those people died. I don't know if I'd even blame the kidnappers for those deaths. Surely the IDF could've done more to prevent civilian deaths.

    It would take a monstrous person to not feel considerable guilt after this. I guess we'll find out the type of person these hostages are.

    capital ,

    I don’t know if I’d even blame the kidnappers for those deaths.

    What the fuck?

    AmidFuror ,

    Repressed brown people can do no wrong.

    assassin_aragorn ,

    For the 200 deaths today

    MilitantAtheist , to World News in US involved in Israeli operation in Nuseirat that killed over 200 Palestinians

    The majority of Palestinians I have on Facebook cheered and posted demeaning stuff when the original Hamas attack happened.

    I understand they don't like Israel, but rejoicing and being assholes about regular people being raped and murdered really won't get me to care about your cause.

    I don't like the Israeli government at all, but Hamas and the people who support Hamas can fuck right off.

    Linkerbaan OP ,
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    palestinians should shut up while being Genocided for the last 20 years with Zionists having a party about it and America supporting it.

    Good thing you stood up for them before Oct7. They can always count on you.

    TheFonz ,

    You're just larping at this point. You don't care about the Palestinians either -this much is certain.

    Kony 2012, amirite?

    JacksonLamb ,
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    Why on earth do you mostly have pro-terrorist facebook friends? Did you not realise you can just block people like that?

    febra , to World News in US involved in Israeli operation in Nuseirat that killed over 200 Palestinians

    A deal has been on the table for weeks now. A deal that would've released all the hostages and would've caused zero Palestinian deaths. I guess to the average Israeli one of their citizens goes for at least 50 Palestinians though.

    cosmicrookie ,
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    Israel also lost soldiers in the rescue operation so its even worse than that

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