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electricprism , to Android in HMD is bringing back the Nokia Lumia "Fabula" design for at least two new phones (leaks) - Liliputing

Not all agree, but I wish it were smaller. I like being able to hold in my hand.

Cort ,

I can't wait until the trifold phones become a thing, that way I can carry around a smaller phone that transforms to something larger when I need it.

morbidcactus ,

I could totally go for a iPhone 4s sized phone, it's nice to be able to easily reach across the entire phone with one thumb.

That said I loved my lumia 1020 and will totally be keeping an eye out for these.

SquigglyEmpire , to Android in HMD is bringing back the Nokia Lumia "Fabula" design for at least two new phones (leaks) - Liliputing

Now I miss my Nokia N9 :(

Osiris , to Android in HMD is bringing back the Nokia Lumia "Fabula" design for at least two new phones (leaks) - Liliputing

Thats just a big ipod nano

bulwark , to Technology in Milk-V Jupiter is a mini ITX board with a SpacemiT K1/M1 RISC-V processor - Liliputing

16 gb of non-upgradeable ram seems a little light, but I'm not familiar with RISC. I would like to get one to play with tho.

just_another_person ,

RISC is only for tinkering at this point.

pastermil ,

Fair. It'd still be nice to have upgradeable RAM, tho.

r_deckard ,

Didn't someone get Debian running on a Talos II workstation?

Granted, that's tinkering, but getting Debian to a workable state.

cupcakezealot , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

hey i heard you like linux so here's linux running inside of linux

Peffse , to Technology in Milk-V Jupiter is a mini ITX board with a SpacemiT K1/M1 RISC-V processor - Liliputing

Milk-V just keep churning these things out. I wonder what the RISC-V market looks like? I assume they're targeting business application and not hobbyists? I'm very much ignorant, and have never seen an implementation using RISC-V anywhere.

I actually ordered a Mars just yesterday but I get the feeling, after initial intrigue, that it'll be a curiosity that sits in the drawer until it eventually gets thrown away. Maybe it was a good thing Meles was sold out at the time of my order. haha

just_another_person ,

It's really just for tinkering at this point, or cheap build systems I guess. There's some small edge cases where the existing instruction set will beat ARM or x86, but they're very niche. Eventually it's expected to be a contender to the more optimized stuff we see in ARM chips these days.

Munkisquisher ,

Usable where you would otherwise use a raspberry pi? How does it compare in computation?

just_another_person ,

It's still very subjective to who is making the main CPU, but yeah. It's meant for low power applications.

antangil ,
@antangil@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the odds-on favorite for the next generation of radiation-hardened space computers (HPSC). Potential to be a 25x improvement over current capabilities. Guessing most of the use cases will be niche like that, but who knows.

rufus , to Android in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration

FYI: There's also AnLinux, Linux Deploy, Termux, tainer, UserLAnd, ...

Some of them aren't maintained anymore. And they don't necessarily have hardware-acceleration. But don't all require root and system patches.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Termux works fine get it from F-droid only

I'm not sure why you would need a GUI on a GUI phone

30p87 ,

Because many graphical apps don't run natively on Android. They do on Linux.

eg. a full web browser, proper IDE or more powerful image manipulation program.

alexdeathway ,
@alexdeathway@programming.dev avatar

what do you mean by full web browsers?

30p87 ,

Even though FF Android has been getting closer and closer to having all features of FF Desktop, like Extensions, therefore UA switcher, and a way to pretend to be a desktop browser, I'm still missing full responsiveness settings (ie. pretending the size of your browser is like a tablet) and browser editing tools. The actual FF desktop program, running via Termux in a Linux environment, would have all these features.

alexdeathway ,
@alexdeathway@programming.dev avatar

and a way to pretend to be a desktop browser,

I don't think that's a platform or software problem but rather an issue where the feature-to-bug ratio isn't worth it.

I'm not saying that Firefox for Android is perfect or that no further development is needed, but using the desktop version of Firefox to guide the development of the Android version is a waste. It needs better feature integration with the platform rather than a 1:1 copy of its desktop variant.

The software you are suggesting are in my honest opinion not worth the squeeze. it's like asking Bicycle with engine and complaining about it not being efficient as the motorbike. Just use the bike while making bicycle better in it's own way.

30p87 ,

I did not want to suggest those features should be forced into the Android version, the normie user wouldn't like that anyway, but those are the exact cases where an actual desktop browser, via Termux, is useful.

dogsnest ,
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I'm not sure why you would need a GUI on a GUI phone

Because it's there.

just_another_person , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing

This pretty much opens the door for Proton on mobile I guess?

Baahb ,

No, sadly, unless you have an amd64 phone, which would honestly be weird at this point.

-guy who spent to long trying to get Linux Dwarf Fortress running on an ARM tablet not a month ago.

bitfucker ,

Emulation time it is!

Baahb ,

Box64 might be worth checking out. I didn't get much out of it but your mileage may vary.

Nutteman ,
@Nutteman@lemmy.world avatar

It's likely you could use winlator to play the windows version of the game (I know, not quite the same, although it does run wine via a linux container lmao)

Baahb ,

You can, it's crashy.

Nutteman ,
@Nutteman@lemmy.world avatar

Winlator is kind of a bitch to configure to get things running smoothly. I spent wayyyyyyy too much time trying to get new vegas to run at 60fps on my fold 4 just because I wanted to see if I could. I got close but now it crashes every minute or so. Moved my save over to my pc lmao. If you'd like, you can dm me and I can try to help you out with getting it to run. I ended up joining several discord servers to try to learn what the options do. It sucked but I think i have a somewhat basic understanding of how things function now.

Baahb ,

Appreciate the offer. I managed to get it running full screen on a sever I can vnc into, just like steam link except not slow.

Note: SL may not be slow, but the server it's on aty place is a potato. Doing DF and steam (goddamnit I'd love to kill steam webhelper) and steam link will make you crazy.

gandalf_der_12te OP ,
@gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org avatar

That's why I prefer to distribute programs as .wasm files. Efficiently run code on any hardware.

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

It would be great if publishers started doing this, however, this way you cannot sell Skyrim or/and gta5 *th time in a row

gandalf_der_12te OP ,
@gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org avatar

you could start with FOSS software.

noodles ,
@noodles@lemmy.world avatar

Proton on mobiles already exists
Chech out Box64Droid

RmDebArc_5 , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

Interesting, I think I’ll try it in waydroid

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

So you're going to emulate Linux in an Android emulator on Linux?

RmDebArc_5 ,
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

No, I’m using waydroid in wsl

somethingsomethingidk ,

So it's windows emulating linux emulating android emulating linux?

I'm interested to hear how that works out for you

RmDebArc_5 ,
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

The WSL part was just a joke, but I do sometimes test apps on waydroid as I am using an IPhone currently and I want to switch, so for that I try apps on waydroid so I can easily replace IOS exclusive apps when I make the switch.

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

You should go another level deeper, VirtualBox > Windows > WSL > Waydroid > Lindroid

wise ,
@wise@feddit.uk avatar

I’m looking to do the exact same thing and been collecting FOSS apps as I go, but I’ve never heard of waydroid before
Thank you!

Smc87 ,

Lmfao

hypertown ,

In VM on FreeBSD ofc, right?

BeardedGingerWonder ,

Using proton to play cyberpunk 2077

RmDebArc_5 ,
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

No no, it’s Linux on Android on Linux via waydroid in WSL in the Mac version of virtual box running via darling running on FreeBSD via LinuxJails

db2 , to Technology in Milk-V Jupiter is a mini ITX board with a SpacemiT K1/M1 RISC-V processor - Liliputing

HDMI in??

vividspecter ,

Could be useful for PiKVM or equivalent.

redditReallySucks , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

You can already do that with termux-proot and termux-x11

Spider89 ,

HW Accel?

redditReallySucks ,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yes, you can make it work on snapdragon devices (dont know about Exeynos or other)

https://www.reddit.com/r/termux/s/Gc9k1G7LhE

Hellmo_Luciferrari , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing

This interests me greatly. I would like to try this on a device, but I don't have an extra I can spare to do so.

Baahb , (edited )

Put it on your phone. It runs inside a container, so on top of stock android. All your normal phone stuff is still there and running. Worth noting android has good support for mouse and keyboard.

Edit: user below pointed out that this does not appear to be an app, which kinda makes it a weird choice? Seems like there are still better solutions like Userland, Andronix, and LinuxDeploy

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

https://github.com/Linux-on-droid/lindroid-rootfs

In this specific github entry it mentions flashing, and with my setup, I would prefer not to flash something onto my phone without some sort of backup.

Unless there is a userland app I can install that I seem to be missing.

Baahb ,

Yeah, I seem to have believed the title of the article before reading the article for some reason. My bad.

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

All good!

Hule ,

Funny you should mention UserLAnd

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

I have seen the likes of similar, like Andronix but I typically don't want to buy into proprietary software where possible. Thank you for sharing!

gandalf_der_12te OP ,
@gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org avatar

I bought a OnePlus 6 rn, apparently one of the devices where you can put Debian on it.

fubarx , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
Toes , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
@Toes@ani.social avatar

Oh thats cool. Theres a similar one that lets you run dos.

partial_accumen , to Technology in Pine64 Oz64 is a single-board PC with ARM and RISC-V CPU cores - Liliputing

I can think of one valid use case for this unsolved by any other solution:

Lets say a company has an SoC board base product currently currently base on ARM. They want to eventually migrate to RISC-V based solution.

If a company has a product currently written to use ARM compiled code, but wants to transition to RISC-V (which isn't ready yet), they could deploy this board which could run today's ARM implementation, and it would be future-ready when the RISC-V implementation would be released without having to replace hardware.

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