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cupcakezealot , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
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hey i heard you like linux so here's linux running inside of linux

Peffse , to Technology in Milk-V Jupiter is a mini ITX board with a SpacemiT K1/M1 RISC-V processor - Liliputing

Milk-V just keep churning these things out. I wonder what the RISC-V market looks like? I assume they're targeting business application and not hobbyists? I'm very much ignorant, and have never seen an implementation using RISC-V anywhere.

I actually ordered a Mars just yesterday but I get the feeling, after initial intrigue, that it'll be a curiosity that sits in the drawer until it eventually gets thrown away. Maybe it was a good thing Meles was sold out at the time of my order. haha

just_another_person ,

It's really just for tinkering at this point, or cheap build systems I guess. There's some small edge cases where the existing instruction set will beat ARM or x86, but they're very niche. Eventually it's expected to be a contender to the more optimized stuff we see in ARM chips these days.

Munkisquisher ,

Usable where you would otherwise use a raspberry pi? How does it compare in computation?

just_another_person ,

It's still very subjective to who is making the main CPU, but yeah. It's meant for low power applications.

antangil ,
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It’s the odds-on favorite for the next generation of radiation-hardened space computers (HPSC). Potential to be a 25x improvement over current capabilities. Guessing most of the use cases will be niche like that, but who knows.

db2 , to Technology in Milk-V Jupiter is a mini ITX board with a SpacemiT K1/M1 RISC-V processor - Liliputing

HDMI in??

vividspecter ,

Could be useful for PiKVM or equivalent.

bulwark , to Technology in Milk-V Jupiter is a mini ITX board with a SpacemiT K1/M1 RISC-V processor - Liliputing

16 gb of non-upgradeable ram seems a little light, but I'm not familiar with RISC. I would like to get one to play with tho.

just_another_person ,

RISC is only for tinkering at this point.

pastermil ,

Fair. It'd still be nice to have upgradeable RAM, tho.

r_deckard ,

Didn't someone get Debian running on a Talos II workstation?

Granted, that's tinkering, but getting Debian to a workable state.

redditReallySucks , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
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You can already do that with termux-proot and termux-x11

Spider89 ,

HW Accel?

redditReallySucks ,
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Yes, you can make it work on snapdragon devices (dont know about Exeynos or other)

https://www.reddit.com/r/termux/s/Gc9k1G7LhE

fubarx , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
RmDebArc_5 , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
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Interesting, I think I’ll try it in waydroid

helenslunch ,
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So you're going to emulate Linux in an Android emulator on Linux?

RmDebArc_5 ,
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No, I’m using waydroid in wsl

somethingsomethingidk ,

So it's windows emulating linux emulating android emulating linux?

I'm interested to hear how that works out for you

RmDebArc_5 ,
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The WSL part was just a joke, but I do sometimes test apps on waydroid as I am using an IPhone currently and I want to switch, so for that I try apps on waydroid so I can easily replace IOS exclusive apps when I make the switch.

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

You should go another level deeper, VirtualBox > Windows > WSL > Waydroid > Lindroid

wise ,
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I’m looking to do the exact same thing and been collecting FOSS apps as I go, but I’ve never heard of waydroid before
Thank you!

Smc87 ,

Lmfao

hypertown ,

In VM on FreeBSD ofc, right?

BeardedGingerWonder ,

Using proton to play cyberpunk 2077

RmDebArc_5 ,
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No no, it’s Linux on Android on Linux via waydroid in WSL in the Mac version of virtual box running via darling running on FreeBSD via LinuxJails

just_another_person , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing

This pretty much opens the door for Proton on mobile I guess?

Baahb ,

No, sadly, unless you have an amd64 phone, which would honestly be weird at this point.

-guy who spent to long trying to get Linux Dwarf Fortress running on an ARM tablet not a month ago.

bitfucker ,

Emulation time it is!

Baahb ,

Box64 might be worth checking out. I didn't get much out of it but your mileage may vary.

Nutteman ,
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It's likely you could use winlator to play the windows version of the game (I know, not quite the same, although it does run wine via a linux container lmao)

Baahb ,

You can, it's crashy.

Nutteman ,
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Winlator is kind of a bitch to configure to get things running smoothly. I spent wayyyyyyy too much time trying to get new vegas to run at 60fps on my fold 4 just because I wanted to see if I could. I got close but now it crashes every minute or so. Moved my save over to my pc lmao. If you'd like, you can dm me and I can try to help you out with getting it to run. I ended up joining several discord servers to try to learn what the options do. It sucked but I think i have a somewhat basic understanding of how things function now.

Baahb ,

Appreciate the offer. I managed to get it running full screen on a sever I can vnc into, just like steam link except not slow.

Note: SL may not be slow, but the server it's on aty place is a potato. Doing DF and steam (goddamnit I'd love to kill steam webhelper) and steam link will make you crazy.

gandalf_der_12te OP ,
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That's why I prefer to distribute programs as .wasm files. Efficiently run code on any hardware.

bruhduh ,
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It would be great if publishers started doing this, however, this way you cannot sell Skyrim or/and gta5 *th time in a row

gandalf_der_12te OP ,
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you could start with FOSS software.

noodles ,
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Proton on mobiles already exists
Chech out Box64Droid

Toes , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
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Oh thats cool. Theres a similar one that lets you run dos.

partial_accumen , to Technology in Pine64 Oz64 is a single-board PC with ARM and RISC-V CPU cores - Liliputing

I can think of one valid use case for this unsolved by any other solution:

Lets say a company has an SoC board base product currently currently base on ARM. They want to eventually migrate to RISC-V based solution.

If a company has a product currently written to use ARM compiled code, but wants to transition to RISC-V (which isn't ready yet), they could deploy this board which could run today's ARM implementation, and it would be future-ready when the RISC-V implementation would be released without having to replace hardware.

Hellmo_Luciferrari , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing

This interests me greatly. I would like to try this on a device, but I don't have an extra I can spare to do so.

Baahb , (edited )

Put it on your phone. It runs inside a container, so on top of stock android. All your normal phone stuff is still there and running. Worth noting android has good support for mouse and keyboard.

Edit: user below pointed out that this does not appear to be an app, which kinda makes it a weird choice? Seems like there are still better solutions like Userland, Andronix, and LinuxDeploy

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

https://github.com/Linux-on-droid/lindroid-rootfs

In this specific github entry it mentions flashing, and with my setup, I would prefer not to flash something onto my phone without some sort of backup.

Unless there is a userland app I can install that I seem to be missing.

Baahb ,

Yeah, I seem to have believed the title of the article before reading the article for some reason. My bad.

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

All good!

Hule ,

Funny you should mention UserLAnd

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

I have seen the likes of similar, like Andronix but I typically don't want to buy into proprietary software where possible. Thank you for sharing!

gandalf_der_12te OP ,
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I bought a OnePlus 6 rn, apparently one of the devices where you can put Debian on it.

Treczoks , (edited ) to Technology in Pine64 Oz64 is a single-board PC with ARM and RISC-V CPU cores - Liliputing

The award for "WTF Design" goes to...

So you get either a mediocre ARM or a mediocre RISC-V, plus an even worse RISC-V, plus an 8051 core.

I've seen a lot of crazy, stupid SOC designs in the last decades, but this is extraordinary.

And the board has USB2, 10/100 Ethernet, Wifi and/or(?) BT, and 512MB RAM. With no real support on the software side, and to small to run a modern Linux efficiently. If this board costs more than $10, it is doomed.

PeteBauxigeg , to Technology in Pine64 Oz64 is a single-board PC with ARM and RISC-V CPU cores - Liliputing

"I'd like a heterogeneous architecture sbc please"

They have played us for absolute fools.

aluminium , to Technology in Pine64 Oz64 is a single-board PC with ARM and RISC-V CPU cores - Liliputing

But why?

Petter1 ,

To experiment, I guess

realharo ,

Experiment how? What on earth could this possibly be useful for?

Petter1 ,

To learn about new architectures, now as they grow significance more and more, I’d say

Toes , to Technology in Pine64 Oz64 is a single-board PC with ARM and RISC-V CPU cores - Liliputing
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The way the Sophgo SG2000 chip works, you can select to use either the 1 GHz RISC-V core or the 1 GHz ARM core, but you cannot use both at the same time.

Oh thats so strange. This is a really odd chip https://milkv.io/chips/sg2000

I thought it was maybe a FPGA with a switchable personality. But I can't confirm my thought.

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