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RmDebArc_5 , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

Interesting, I think I’ll try it in waydroid

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

So you're going to emulate Linux in an Android emulator on Linux?

RmDebArc_5 ,
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

No, I’m using waydroid in wsl

somethingsomethingidk ,

So it's windows emulating linux emulating android emulating linux?

I'm interested to hear how that works out for you

RmDebArc_5 ,
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

The WSL part was just a joke, but I do sometimes test apps on waydroid as I am using an IPhone currently and I want to switch, so for that I try apps on waydroid so I can easily replace IOS exclusive apps when I make the switch.

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

You should go another level deeper, VirtualBox > Windows > WSL > Waydroid > Lindroid

wise ,
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I’m looking to do the exact same thing and been collecting FOSS apps as I go, but I’ve never heard of waydroid before
Thank you!

Smc87 ,

Lmfao

hypertown ,

In VM on FreeBSD ofc, right?

BeardedGingerWonder ,

Using proton to play cyberpunk 2077

RmDebArc_5 ,
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

No no, it’s Linux on Android on Linux via waydroid in WSL in the Mac version of virtual box running via darling running on FreeBSD via LinuxJails

fubarx , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
wagoner , to Technology in Pocket 386 is a mini laptop for retro computing with support for DOS and Windows 95 - Liliputing

Realistically, what can you use this for that's worthwhile?

Cool looking device though.

veeesix ,
@veeesix@lemmy.ca avatar

You could relive booting up your computer at breakfast to get it ready to use by lunchtime.

555 ,

If it doesn’t have that hard drive crunch to remind me it hasn’t locked up than I’m not interested.

Fillicia ,

See for me it's the "you can now shut down your pc" message so I know I can shut down the uselessly huge toggle on the front of my tower.

555 ,

I always liked knowing I could kill it with a press. None of this “asking” to shutdown.

EleventhHour ,
@EleventhHour@lemmy.world avatar

Retro gaming?

555 ,

You’d get better performance from an emulator running in a raspberry pi inside that case.

Lost_My_Mind ,

So we buy it for the case! Retro computing raspberry pi case!!!

MonkderDritte ,

Sleeper laptop.

Toes ,
@Toes@ani.social avatar

You could play Wolfenstein?

But realistically, I could see this being helpful if you maintain a lot of legacy gear and need to drag around something reliable to test with.

AbidanYre ,

40MHz is plenty for doom.

shadearg , (edited )
@shadearg@lemmy.world avatar

40MHz is plenty for doom.

Ew, no. Even 386DX-40 is terrible for Doom:

Doom timedemo 386 DX 40 MHz DOS PC

486SX-33 is certainly playable, but you really want 486DX2/66:

Doom Timedemo - 486DX2/66MHz

Edit: grammar

Edit 2: These videos are accurate, btw. I upgraded from 386SX-25 to 486SX-33 just for Doom while my friend got the 486DX2/66 Packard Bell. Envy.

Edit 3: My memory forced me to go back and properly designate the models.

AbidanYre , (edited )

I had a 386sx@25MHz too and I don't remember it being that slow. Unless that demo has the detail cranked up to high or something like that. Although, like that first commenter I had a math co-processor, so maybe that helped.

Or maybe my memory is off and I made the window tiny.

shadearg , (edited )
@shadearg@lemmy.world avatar

Are you sure you didn't set low-detail with the viewport cranked way down? I played it on the same model with a math co-processor and it could not handle high-detail and the large viewport in the video.

Edit: I'm fairly certain I had a math co-processor, but I'll defer to you on this detail just in case. That would certainly make a sizeable difference.

AbidanYre ,

I think the detail level made a pretty big difference. I definitely ran it in low and kind of forgot that high was an option, but the shotgun animation in that video is bringing up some traumatic memories.

MacNCheezus ,
@MacNCheezus@lemmy.today avatar

Can confirm. My dad had a 386DX-40 when I got my hands on a copy of Doom, and it was a fucking slideshow at best.

Toes , to Technology in MicroJournal is a distraction-free writing tool with Cherry MX hot-swap keys - Liliputing
@Toes@ani.social avatar

Does anyone else see a bunch of tiny faces along the top row?

zewm ,
@zewm@lemmy.world avatar

All look like joker faces to me.

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Too much Balatro.

bamboo , to Technology in Framework introduces a RISC-V mainboard for its modular laptops

It’s unfortunate that they’re using an old processor, but this is super cool and shows that the framework platform allows companies to tinker with unusual laptop motherboards without having to design the rest of the device.

555 , to Technology in MicroJournal is a distraction-free writing tool with Cherry MX hot-swap keys - Liliputing

That looks so distracting.

Evil_Shrubbery , to Technology in Sipeed Lichee Book 4A is a cheap RISC-V laptop with an upgradeable processor module - Liliputing

With all these RISC dev boards and laptops Im getting ao much hope & renesanse for the future I haven't felt in a very long time.

While I understand that 'runs Debian' means 'nothing but core works, this is for devs, not end users' I really think this could be the global push towards open source hardware & software (with laptops such as these phones are soon to follow).

opulentocean ,

Feeling hope is good and all, but never forget that capitalism will find a way to explore and ruin even something as good as this, as it always have.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

I se open sourcing all the things the way out of or beyond capitalism/communism/feudalism, a gateway for people to understand.

redditReallySucks , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing
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You can already do that with termux-proot and termux-x11

Spider89 ,

HW Accel?

redditReallySucks ,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yes, you can make it work on snapdragon devices (dont know about Exeynos or other)

https://www.reddit.com/r/termux/s/Gc9k1G7LhE

Hellmo_Luciferrari , to Technology in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration - Liliputing

This interests me greatly. I would like to try this on a device, but I don't have an extra I can spare to do so.

Baahb , (edited )

Put it on your phone. It runs inside a container, so on top of stock android. All your normal phone stuff is still there and running. Worth noting android has good support for mouse and keyboard.

Edit: user below pointed out that this does not appear to be an app, which kinda makes it a weird choice? Seems like there are still better solutions like Userland, Andronix, and LinuxDeploy

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

https://github.com/Linux-on-droid/lindroid-rootfs

In this specific github entry it mentions flashing, and with my setup, I would prefer not to flash something onto my phone without some sort of backup.

Unless there is a userland app I can install that I seem to be missing.

Baahb ,

Yeah, I seem to have believed the title of the article before reading the article for some reason. My bad.

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

All good!

Hule ,

Funny you should mention UserLAnd

Hellmo_Luciferrari ,

I have seen the likes of similar, like Andronix but I typically don't want to buy into proprietary software where possible. Thank you for sharing!

gandalf_der_12te OP ,
@gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org avatar

I bought a OnePlus 6 rn, apparently one of the devices where you can put Debian on it.

just_another_person , to Technology in MicroJournal is a distraction-free writing tool with Cherry MX hot-swap keys - Liliputing

Is a pen and paper notebook just not cool anymore? You'd strain your eyes much less than trying to stare at this screen.

Nutteman ,
@Nutteman@lemmy.world avatar

I personally avoid handwriting if I have to because I can't scrawl 80 words a minute. I can, however, type that fast consistently. Also the clickety clackety tickles something in my adhd brain and makes writing things out more fun.

555 ,

My hand aches just reading thing. My brain hurts thinking about reading my illegible handwriting.

kakes ,

It's like they took an ergonomics textbook and read it upside-down.

scrion , (edited )

Handwriting hurts my wrists. My handwriting became super sloppy after what, like 40 years in front of a screen. Can't index or search my notes. I had one of those pens that record everything using a camera on special, dotted paper, but no OCR can process my writing, and you need special paper.

But yeah, the idea seems interesting. I like dedicated devices these days. It have to carefully think about what I'll be doing, pick an activity and then venture out to do the thing, packing the dedicated device that is suited for the task. I'm more focused that way, more productive.

However, that device here is not what I am looking for. Tiny keyboard, non ergonomic, colors too flashy.

bulwark , to Technology in Milk-V Jupiter is a mini ITX board with a SpacemiT K1/M1 RISC-V processor - Liliputing

16 gb of non-upgradeable ram seems a little light, but I'm not familiar with RISC. I would like to get one to play with tho.

just_another_person ,

RISC is only for tinkering at this point.

pastermil ,

Fair. It'd still be nice to have upgradeable RAM, tho.

r_deckard ,

Didn't someone get Debian running on a Talos II workstation?

Granted, that's tinkering, but getting Debian to a workable state.

rufus , to Android in Lindroid is an Android app that lets you run Linux in a container, with support for hardware-acceleration

FYI: There's also AnLinux, Linux Deploy, Termux, tainer, UserLAnd, ...

Some of them aren't maintained anymore. And they don't necessarily have hardware-acceleration. But don't all require root and system patches.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

Termux works fine get it from F-droid only

I'm not sure why you would need a GUI on a GUI phone

30p87 ,

Because many graphical apps don't run natively on Android. They do on Linux.

eg. a full web browser, proper IDE or more powerful image manipulation program.

alexdeathway ,
@alexdeathway@programming.dev avatar

what do you mean by full web browsers?

30p87 ,

Even though FF Android has been getting closer and closer to having all features of FF Desktop, like Extensions, therefore UA switcher, and a way to pretend to be a desktop browser, I'm still missing full responsiveness settings (ie. pretending the size of your browser is like a tablet) and browser editing tools. The actual FF desktop program, running via Termux in a Linux environment, would have all these features.

alexdeathway ,
@alexdeathway@programming.dev avatar

and a way to pretend to be a desktop browser,

I don't think that's a platform or software problem but rather an issue where the feature-to-bug ratio isn't worth it.

I'm not saying that Firefox for Android is perfect or that no further development is needed, but using the desktop version of Firefox to guide the development of the Android version is a waste. It needs better feature integration with the platform rather than a 1:1 copy of its desktop variant.

The software you are suggesting are in my honest opinion not worth the squeeze. it's like asking Bicycle with engine and complaining about it not being efficient as the motorbike. Just use the bike while making bicycle better in it's own way.

30p87 ,

I did not want to suggest those features should be forced into the Android version, the normie user wouldn't like that anyway, but those are the exact cases where an actual desktop browser, via Termux, is useful.

dogsnest ,
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I'm not sure why you would need a GUI on a GUI phone

Because it's there.

Toes , to Technology in Pine64 Oz64 is a single-board PC with ARM and RISC-V CPU cores - Liliputing
@Toes@ani.social avatar

The way the Sophgo SG2000 chip works, you can select to use either the 1 GHz RISC-V core or the 1 GHz ARM core, but you cannot use both at the same time.

Oh thats so strange. This is a really odd chip https://milkv.io/chips/sg2000

I thought it was maybe a FPGA with a switchable personality. But I can't confirm my thought.

mynamesnotrick , to Technology in Pocket 386 is a mini laptop for retro computing with support for DOS and Windows 95 - Liliputing
@mynamesnotrick@lemmy.zip avatar

It's cool but why?

DannyMac , (edited )
@DannyMac@lemm.ee avatar

If you have to ask, it's not for you. It's for retro PC enthusiasts

tal ,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

I can see people wanting to use retro software, but what surprises me is this being preferable to modern hardware running old software in emulation.

Especially a laptop, because I doubt that power management is that amazing on DOS.

Maybe there is something out there for which this addresses compatibility problems, but...

DannyMac ,
@DannyMac@lemm.ee avatar

I know, you make valid good points, but people who are interested in purchasing this want to run the software on bare metal.

the_crotch ,

All 4 of them

LunarLoony ,
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Hi!

Mihies , to Technology in Pocket 386 is a mini laptop for retro computing with support for DOS and Windows 95 - Liliputing

Ha, just yesterday I've found my Asus EEE. Sounds like a good fit for similar exercise.

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