Vimms Lair is getting removal notices from Nintendo etc. We need someone to help make a rom pack archive can you help? ( slrpnk.net )

Vimms lair is starting to remove many roms that are being requested to be removed by Nintendo etc. soon many original roms, hacks, and translations will be lost forever. Can any of you help make archive torrents of roms from vimms lair and cdromance? They have hacks and translations that dont exist elsewhere and will probably be removed soon with ios emulation and retro handhelds bringing so much attention to roms and these sites

MrSoup ,
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Is there a list of impacted roms?

ArkyonVeil , (edited )
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Not sure, but the blast radius is tremendous, even games from the Atari 2600, a console released nearly fifty fucking years ago have been taken down.

CaptDust ,

Damn it how will I play my annual 20 minutes of Pitfall now. This is terrible.

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

F

ArkyonVeil ,
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I know you mean this is as joke, but oddly enough, Pitfall, by Activision is still available!

CaptDust ,

I'll always have Activision Classics disc for PS1, pitfall is safe.

Jolteon ,

The nointro metadata lists would be a good place to start.

narc0tic_bird ,
@narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee avatar

It reads like many ROMs are already gone? So any archive created now would be incomplete, right?

Centralized archives will always be vulnerable to this.

JetpackJackson ,

Dang I thought they would never get hit...

kratoz29 ,

Why would you think that?

I saw that place gained lots of popularity fairly recently... Mostly on Reddit.

Isn't there a way to just host all those roms in a site where Nintendo has no jurisdiction?

JetpackJackson ,

I guess I just didn't see people talking about it, but I must've missed it or been on the wrong subreddits

As to the second question I have no idea

lichtmetzger ,
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I've seen the occasional copyright notice on that site before, it was inevitable.

JetpackJackson ,

Darn that sucks.

simple ,
@simple@lemm.ee avatar

It's honestly kind of amazing that it lasted so long in the first place

Moorshou ,
@Moorshou@lemmy.zip avatar

I'm gonna miss vimms lair, never told a soul about it. And I'd help but my internet is terrible rural internet.

DoucheBagMcSwag , (edited )

Vimms always appeared first in Google searches for ROMS. it was inevitable

Ugh...Next will be the Archive

brax ,

Somebody should tell Nintendo that a bunch of their games are available from the Switch NES app. Maybe they'll she themselves out of existence and we can finally enjoy their games in peace

Onihikage , (edited )
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It's not gone, they didn't even take down all of the Nintendo games, they took down specific games (reddit link), albeit a lot of them, but there's still lots of stuff left.

SternburgExport ,

Nooo… that was my goto rom archive after emuparadise went down. F u Nintendo I‘m not paying a monthly subscription to play retro games.

potat ,
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Are these roms/hacks that aren't in the roms megathread? I'd have to assume most of these already have duplicates somewhere else just by nature of them being put online

aldalire ,

fuck nintendo

fuck nintendo

fuck nintendo

fuck nintendo

jjlinux ,

You know humanity is fucked (pun unintended) when the post with the most likes is actually "fuck (insert whatever)".

prole ,
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Wait is CDRomance also under threat? Ugh

SturgiesYrFase ,
@SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

nondescripthandle ,

Nintendo is just cheap Japanese Disney for gamers. They're every bit the corporate monster the mouse is, they're simply just not as powerful yet.

IllNess ,

Worldwide, Mario is more recognizable than the mouse. Nintendo is going to start their own movie studio soon. They are copying the blueprint set out by Disney.

TachyonTele ,

Need a list of missing games first.

penquin ,
@penquin@lemm.ee avatar

Whoever runs it must have all of that stored locally, too, no?

datavoid ,

There are already torrents containing collections of all the games from old systems. What there needs to be is an "official" collection torrent for each system that archivists can store and seed individually

xnx OP ,
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There arent ones that include hacks and fan translations. For example PSP games like monster hunter portable 2nd G with the FUComplete patch or Monster Hunter Portable 3rd G with the English Patch v5

matcha_addict ,

Do you know where I can find them? I will seed them all

ERPAdvocate ,

Anecdotal, but when I was just messing with qBittorrent and its search feature, I found some ROM sets just by searching for system and sorting by size. This torrent for example is not necessarily comprehensive but contains a lot of roms of which can be shared with friends and family :)

kratoz29 ,

Every time I see this news (Reddit or Lemmy) I see this kind of comment, but I wonder, what if I want to download just a ROM of a few mbs? I certainly don't want to hoard the whole collection, as a torrent user I believe I can just pick up the file (if it isn't zipped), but wouldn't that be against the torrent's moral code?

Benchamoneh ,

But most (all?) Torrent clients let you select which files you want to download so of there was an official unarchived torrent then archivists could seed forever and others could select the ROMs/manuals/etc. that they wanted

Appoxo ,
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And this way we will get uncompleted seeds and in the further future nobody will be able to complete the damn torrent.

blindsight ,

I don't think that's an issue. Downloading a partial is a problem on private trackers since there are so few users, but on a public tracker, someone downloading a partial is just making the swarm a bit more robust: they are sharing connections details to other users in the swarm and are able to partially seed part of the content.

Hit & run torrent users are the bigger problem; they add nothing to the ecosystem. But, for example, if there's a "complete early roms for all systems nointro unzipped" torrent, and someone only downloads and seeds the SNES section, then the swarm gets the benefit of someone sharing that section of the content.

You could even get a situation where there are no "seeds" but 100% availability, with different people sharing different sections.

I'm not fully looped in to why Anna's Archive did what they did, but their massive 1TB+ torrent zips are pretty useless for most purposes. I'd be happy to download a partial and seed books in, say, a particular genre, but I'm not going to seed a partial of a massive zip file that's useless to me without the full archive.

Appoxo ,
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Amd those H&R users are exactly why it wont work.
Maybe a popular archive will stay alive by the few voluntary seeders but I believe the seed woll be dead.

pineapplelover ,

You can partially seed?

datavoid ,

Yes you definitely can

blindsight ,

I don't know the terminology, but so long as the torrent is active, you're uploading. If you selectively download files, then you can only upload the chunks you have downloaded, obviously. Is that "seeding" if you aren't a "seed" with 1.00 availability? idk.

I'd still count that as "seeding" since you're running the torrent for upload only, but idk if there's a precise definition somewhere.

WarmApplePieShrek ,

Yes. Select to download a part and when you downloaded that part you are seeding it. The torrent swarm counts you as a leecher, since it doesn't know you are done downloading. But you are actually seeding your part.

pineapplelover ,

What if I only want to download a specific part of it and not more than that. For example a specific episode of curb your enthusiasm and not anything more. Is that possible to stop and seed that episode? I thought by default it will try to download the entire torrent.

WarmApplePieShrek ,

Select to download that part.

interdimensionalmeme ,

That is incorrect. Partial seeding means they seed the part they downloaded, end of story. There are no downsides.

Appoxo ,
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Correct. And Isaid if everyone just downloads the same 20% of the torrent because the other 80% is shovelware and unpopular means it's lost because nobody downloaded the remaining 80% in the first place.

WarmApplePieShrek ,

qbittorrent shows you how many seeders each part of the file has. Archivists can prioritise the parts with the least.

Appoxo , (edited )
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Assuming those come to the rescue and quick enough before the last one abandons the seed without looking if someone is leeching the last part to make a 100% completion possible.

Look mate. We all know every once in a while a torrent dies or will be incomplete for ever. There's no denying that.

conciselyverbose ,

That's not a different or added risk vs a website.

The only change is that it's significantly easier to keep an archive going.

WarmApplePieShrek ,

Look up GoodROM databases. There is metadata for each ROM so you know if your collection is complete.

Eeyore_Syndrome ,
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Is this because of the HD PC port recompilation posts of Majora's Mask etc? Sigh.

Kiosade ,

No it’s because all the Apple emulator users being reckless as fuck, flocking to the site all at once to try games they could have emulated on PC for decades now…

Petter1 ,

They should still be on myrient, not?

xnx OP ,
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For now. Myrient doesnt use torrents either so when Nintendo comes for them the files are gone

mister_monster ,

Is there a way to download their entire archive?

Petter1 ,

Prepare to store 600Tb xP

mister_monster , (edited )

The site says 200tb, and I'm mostly interested in the nes, SNES and genesis archive. I've got archives of every game made for those already, but I don't have every mod and such. Those archives are very small, the nes one is a few hundred megabytes. I'm guessing most of that big number is ps1, 2 and n64 games. I'd probably be interested in archiving those as well but I think the old pre 3d console games are probably worth saving more, since not many people have copies.

Petter1 ,

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/a287ec30-e097-437b-94f3-6262bd02ad42.webp

Yea.. I guess I had it wrong in mind 😁

Nyanix ,
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Damn...Vimms Lair was my favorite, friggin Nintendo doing what it does best...

Appoxo ,
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At least vimms lair still has xbox roms. Pretty hard to come by compared to nintendo roms.

cupcakezealot ,
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vimms lair was where i first played seiken densetu 3 back in 2000 when it wasn't available anywhere

jjlinux ,

My kid has the first Nintendo Switch, he wanted the new one, but I told him "you're getting a Steam Deck, and we're smashing all Nintendo shit with a sledgehammer". Then I explained to him why it's wrong to support compaies that enshitify life, and now he is waiting for his Deck and has already pirated all the games he liked and has been testing a few emulators.

I'm proud of him.

TopRamenBinLaden ,

Thats some proper parenting right there. It sounds like you are raising an upstanding citizen.

jjlinux ,

I like his logic about this. We paid for the games, so nothing wrong with using them however we want. I just want my kids to know they have options and use them.

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