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Important context. Good riddance

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Free speech is not without limits in the U.K.

I think someone supporting terrorist atrocities is lucky to get away with just losing a visa.

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I see what you did there, good one.
But I meant these ones, these acts she’s celebrating: https://thisishamas.com

And they are rightfully designated a terrorist organisation in the U.K.

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There’s no genocide

‘We will fight with our fingernails’ says Netanyahu after US threat to curb arms ( www.theguardian.com )

Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed that Israel will stand alone and “fight with our fingernails” in defiance of US threats to further restrict arms deliveries if Israeli forces proceeded with an offensive on the southern Gazan city of Rafah....

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Ridiculous that Biden is changing policy due to students protesting a war just because the aggressor/initiator is losing badly. He’s lost their votes already.

Hoping they take Rafah soon and eliminate every last Hamas jihadist and hopefully get some hostages back alive

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Yea, give more weapons to terrorists. What could go wrong? The Lemmy community has truly gone insane

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Got a source that they’re killing people just for the sake of it? I’m pretty sure they’re after these delightful people: https://thisishamas.com

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It’s horrible, but there are mass deaths in a war. If Hamas surrendered themselves the war would end.

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Oppressed people would not be decapitating innocent people, murdering a pregnant woman then cutting out the baby, all the while doing it with pleasure and chanting to their god. It’s doing gods work, not because they’re oppressed.

Yes innocent people get killed in a war, but it’s not the intention. For Hamas, killing any Jewish people is the intention. You’re a terrorism apologist

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Never used Truth Social. Isn’t that for the far right?

You’re completely wrong. Im just against extreme religious terrorism. Strange that you think that makes me far right

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Which figures are you using? Hamas figures can be taken with a pinch of salt. The best approximation I saw was 3:1 non combatants to combatants which as awful as it sounds is actually very good for dense urban warfare.

Hamas are not fighting like a regular countries army would fight. They do not care for their own civilians

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Show your source for those figures. If it’s the Gaza Health Ministry you should know it’s controlled by Hamas, whose interest it is in to tell you all the dead are women and children to gain international sympathy. Looks like their propaganda is working

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You too terrorist sympathiser

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There’s no genocide, but there are childrens hospitals loaded with Hamas military weapons. Terrorists don’t give a damn about those children, but it gains them great supporters like your good self.

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Quiet day for me. You decapitating anyone today? Cutting out any unborn babies? Raping? You’re definitely earning your place in paradise. Congratulations

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You are deluded if you think supporting Israel in its right to defend itself against Islamic Jihadist terrorists is exclusive to the far right. By your definition Biden must be on Truth social too

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Do you kiss your jihadist family with that mouth? Or did they all go to paradise detonating themselves already?

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Which never happened but I’d expect nothing less from a Hamas supporter like yourself

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They aren’t blanket bombing civilians. They’re fighting a difficult war in an urban environment against terrorists who hide behind civilians, against civilians who support the terrorists, and telling civilians to evacuate but many are coerced into staying by Hamas, and despite all that, they’re still harming less civilians than would be normal in a war in those circumstances.

So no, I wouldn’t be ok with blanket bombing any hospital full of innocent people. I would be ok with bombing a hospital where innocents have been told to leave and where terrorists and their weapons are located.

Tell me where are all the protests against Hamas? Where are all the people calling for them to surrender? All I hear is apologies for their acts

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Lemmy has become an echo chamber for people who think the Palestinians have been persecuted/oppressed and that Jihad is a rational response and Israel should sit back and accept it. War is always horrendous to see but it’s incredible the complete asymmetry of people’s judgement on the actions of Israel vs Hamas

I’ve actually gone back to Reddit which I haven’t used since last June. The discussion there is far more balanced.

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There’s just one small flaw in your plan. Hamas has widespread support in Palestine and is not interested in peace, only in the destruction of Israel.

If you end the war you just go back to the previous situation where Hamas will continue to persistently launch rockets at Israel and execute more terror attacks, not peace.

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Wishing it to be untrue doesn’t work unfortunately

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No, I’m not commenting on Israels methods which clearly could be better, to put it mildly. That doesn’t mean it’s logical to dream there can ever be peace with jihadists

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I can understand why you’d think that coming from a position of logic, but no, it’s Islam.

You’re right, it’ll probably go from >50% to 99%. And probably few of them will ever acknowledge that their religion and support of Hamas is what led to this tragedy.

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Where did I say I wanted to murder anyone?

Where do you live? Was it always the country it is now? How would your government react to constant bombardment from a fanatical religious neighbour that wanted to wipe your country off the map to get into paradise?

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Clearly because he wants to eliminate the jihadist terrorist organisation. I’m not claiming that’s the right decision but I understand it. But it seems a lot of Israelis don’t support him.

But just because Netanyahu is no longer interested in peace doesn’t automatically make Hamas a peaceful group. The group that performs suicide bombings, uses human shields, beheads civilians, would stone you to death for drawing a picture of the prophet. They are not looking for peace no matter how much you downvote

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If calling out problems with a religion is your idea of racism you need to check the dictionary

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I apologise. Religion is of course beyond criticism. What are your thoughts on Scientology out of curiosity?

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Why would they be?

Ukraine was attacked by Russia which started a war. Israel was attacked by Palestine which started a war. You should be asking if Russian flags and symbols will also be banned if you want to find an equivalence.

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No, I was anti-jihadist prior to October. You?

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Guerillas/government. Potato/potato

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No, I’m quite happy to not support jihadist terrorist organisations like Hamas, ISIS, Hezbollah, the Taliban, etc. But you do you if you think that’s the moral high ground

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I went back from Windows 11 to Windows 10 as 11 was too buggy on my system (maybe because I bypassed some checks for TPM because my motherboard was too old).

I cannot understand at all this move from control panel to settings thats half baked in 10 and presumably even worse in 11. It’s not an improvement and makes things difficult to find

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They should launch a brutal attack on Israel to get everyone on their side

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It’s not being bigoted to point out the dangers of the current form of Islam. You only have to have eyes to see the extent of jihad, mercy killings, beheadings for drawing Mohamed, etc. or to see the stats from polls where large numbers say it is justified, or sometimes justified.

It absolutely doesn’t apply to all Muslims but it’s not a tiny minority, and other religions do not have anywhere near the same violence today. Burying your head in the sand and calling people bigots and racists is pathetic and doesn’t help.

Hamas official says group would lay down its arms if an independent Palestinian state is established ( apnews.com )

A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

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The “genocide” would halt immediately if Hamas returned the hostages and surrendered themselves. Hamas has zero interest in that, and the Palestinians have zero interest in that.

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I stand corrected. Makes sense if you’re close to wiping them out. Otherwise you go back to the previous situation.

Do you have evidence for a genocide in the West Bank? Thought not.

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It must be difficult to stay in control with the tactics Hamas use, not caring at all about civilian lives, using human shields, suicide bombs, fighting from civilians buildings etc.

The IDF probably knows far more about that than we do

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ISF reported 305 shooting attacks committed in or emanating from the West Bank in 2022, more than triple the attacks (91) recorded in 2021. In press reports, Israeli officials described these incidents as terror attacks

Hamas may not be based in the West Bank but other Islamic terrorists certainly are, and Hamas is certainly widely supported there.

Where do you live? How would you treat neighbouring countries that rocket attacked you constantly and wanted you wiped out in the name of their religion?

If anything Israel showed significant restraint prior to October

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It’s a tragedy whats happening to civilians in Palestine. Hamas needs to be destroyed and I hope Israel can minimise further collateral damage. (Though it must be exceptionally difficult with the tactics Hamas use)

But I hold the jihadist organisation Hamas (that still has widespread support) fully responsible for this tragedy, as I would hold the Nazis responsible for German civilian deaths.

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So you’re still defending jihadists and their supporters

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