Metal Memes

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Rolando , in What the birds are really saying
numbermess , in Toronto, it's worse than Sweden.

I stopped watching TV when I was six months old
Because it was so boring and stupid
And started reading books
And going to recitals
And art galleries

I don't go to recitals anymore
Because my hearing is too sensitive
And I don't go to art galleries anymore
Because there are people there
And I can't deal with people
Because they don't understand me

I stay home
Reading books that are beneath me
And working on my work
Which no one understands

I am sensitive
I am a sensitive artist

-- King Missile

SatansMaggotyCumFart , in Toronto, it's worse than Sweden.

Punctuation is cool.

Nomad OP ,

But they were

BigChungus , in It's like magic
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I’m sorry officer, but speed limits don’t apply when the solo to Free Bird kicks in

Blaster_M , in It's like magic

The entire Initial D album

owatnext ,
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GAS GAS GAS.

umbrella ,
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GET YOUR CREDIT CARDS

entropicdrift ,
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entropicdrift , in Dragonforce
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Back when they first got really insanely famous due to Guitar Hero III, a lot of people thought their music was fake.

They were called studioforce by guitarists who felt threatened by their inability to play TTFAF, and those same haters justified their hate by pointing out that the band themselves frequently couldn't play it live.

This was due in part to the band still having a janky live setup at the time, in part due to their singer not sounding as good live (when they switched singers to Mark it made a big difference for their live shows IMO), and of course because Sam and to a lesser extent Herman would drink excessively before playing a lot of nights, leading to lots of recordings of their sloppy drunk shredding being uploaded to YouTube.

But mostly, I would argue, the hate came from people who dislike new things. They tried to invalidate the band's obvious technical prowess as a way to disregard their (at the time) relatively innovative sounds.

You see that a lot in the guitar community. Anything new or that doesn't fit a traditional, pre-existing mold is dismissed as inferior. Anything non-traditional and obviously skillful tends to draw hate from those same people.

Now that Dragonforce has been around for a good long while, the traditionalists have had time to adjust and Dragonforce has had their live act consistently together for well over a decade, the hate has largely died down.

It also helps, IMO, that Herman Li does regular livestreams so people can see that he's a relatively down to earth guy, especially for someone with a giant wall of guitars in his house and a collection of high end sports cars.

Passerby6497 ,

Back when they first got really insanely famous due to Guitar Hero III, a lot of people thought their music was fake.

I saw them live in the late 00's at an open air festival, and it sounded like I was playing the track myself on guitar hero. Wasn't super into them after seeing them live tbh, since it seemed fake from the live experience.

entropicdrift ,
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So if they fuck it up live, they're fake, but if they play it perfectly live, also fake.

Play while under water in a swimming pool? Believe it or not, straight to jail.

And to be clear, you can like or dislike them, not judging you, I just think it's funny that people think they're fake no matter what lol

A_Very_Big_Fan ,

a lot of people thought their music was fake

I never understood this. This is the same argument people used to hate on electronic music in the early 00's. But like... if it sounds good then who cares?

Zos_Kia ,
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You see that a lot in the guitar community. Anything new or that doesn't fit a traditional, pre-existing mold is dismissed as inferior. Anything non-traditional and obviously skillful tends to draw hate from those same people.

I don't see what could be qualified as non traditional in their music. It was run of the mill speed/power metal that was pretty common since the early 90s, or even the 80s if you stretch the definition a bit. Even from a technical standpoint they were fucking good but nothing ground breaking.

I always felt that the hate against them came from the fact that they became mainstream popular thanks to guitar hero while they were not particularly notable among their peers in the metal scene.

entropicdrift ,
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That's the hate they got from within the metal community. I'm talking about the hate they got from the guitar community in general, which at the time was maybe 90% blues rock dads.

olutukko , in It's like magic

I think mötley crüe is very mediocre in terms of music. kinda meh in all aspects.

I do have respect towards them because of their attitude. those guys just decided to be rockstars and did it. amazing

recklessengagement , in It's like magic

I got a nasty ticket cuz I got way too into listening to "Brain Power" -_-

JimSamtanko , in It's like magic

Actually laughed out loud. This was funny! Though, Ribbons by Sisters of Mercy does this for me.

FlyingSquid , in The OG metalhead
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Automata are neat. Years ago I went to an exhibition of them in Covent Garden in London. I think it's gone now, sadly. Thanks for sharing!

HonkTonkWoman ,

Thanks for using the word Automata! I did not know that’s what these things are called.

My brain kept going “fake robot”… it’s still early here…

li10 , in "...to learn how to love, and forget how to hate"

This is exactly how I feel about Money for nothing by Dire Straits…

One of the best intro riffs of all time, then it sounds like something from a BBC kids show.

Geometrinen_Gepardi ,

Yup. It's a linedancing song just like "AC/DC - You Shook Me All Night Long".

SkyNTP ,

Not sure this is the cause in these cases, but it's all too common in design by committee. Keeping the creative direction and vision in a single person is so damn important.

thisbenzingring ,

Next time you listen to it, imagine the situation that is being presented. The singer said that all the words are literally what the guy at the department store was saying without knowing who Mark Knopfler (the singer) was. Add in the video (in a time when computer graphics were very primitive) and it's really one of those great stories.

Apeman42 ,
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Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit in the Sky". Those crispy awesome guitar riffs, and then you start singing some trite crap about Jeebus? It's maddening!

hactar42 ,

One of my favorite Wikipedia entries comes from this song. This entire passage just cracks me up.

"Spirit in the Sky" makes several religious references to Jesus, and Greenbaum himself is Jewish. In a 2006 interview with The New York Times, Greenbaum told a reporter he was inspired to write the song after watching Porter Wagoner singing a gospel song on TV. Greenbaum said: "I thought, 'Yeah, I could do that,' knowing nothing about gospel music, so I sat down and wrote my own gospel song. It came easy. I wrote the words in 15 minutes." Greenbaum had previously been a member of psychedelic jug band Dr. West's Medicine Show and Junk Band.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_in_the_Sky

Apeman42 ,
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It doesn't make me any less upset to listen to the song itself, but that is fantastic, lol.

kamenlady ,
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I went to some discos in Brazil in the 80s. People were frantically dancing to this song.

Edit: most of the time, the song that followed was "beds are burning" by midnight oil.

davemeech ,

Hard but respectful disagree.

Money for nothing is end to end chef's kiss.

Retreaux , in It's like magic

I got my first speeding ticket on high school blasting Rock You Like A Hurricane by the Scorpions, I understand this disease. This song is also most likely to be the one I get my next one to though hahaha, it's an absolute high octane thrill fest of a jam.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
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Here I am

thefartographer , in "...to learn how to love, and forget how to hate"

Also: Kiss makeup and outfits vs their sound and choreography

halykthered ,
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Same with Ghost

wildcardology , in Enter samd man

My metal head friend said that Metallica became a pop band when they released the black album.

Skkorm ,

Your metalhead friend was correct. I personally think that that "Metallica" died with Cliff Burton. No hate to Jason Newstead, but Cliff was the one in the band with musical integrity.

TempermentalAnomaly ,

Justice was really important to me. It was the first album I ever loved at the age of eight. It introduced me to the rest of their catalogue and, of course, fell in love with Burton and bass guitar. Too bad they did Newstead dirty on that album. But Justice sparked some political consciousness in me. And musically, I think they stretched as far as they could. With Burton, it would have been farther, but still farther than those three had stretched before. The same is not true for the black album.

Skkorm ,

I agree completely. There are versions of Justice that can be found online where the bass is mixed back in, and I highly recommend them. Newstead put in work on that album.

qpla ,

Yeha I think they're called "And justice for Bass" or "And Justice for Jason"

zod000 ,

When the black album came out, Metallic instantly went from legit thrash band to top 40 hard rock and was on the radio all day everyday... and somehow they still are and it's baffling.

HydraulicMonkey , in It's like magic

For me that would be Spiderbait's cover of Black Betty

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