grayhaze ,
@grayhaze@lemmy.world avatar

I just want replaceable batteries on my phones again. The last two Samsung phones I owned ended up with swollen batteries, requiring sending them back to Samsung for repairs. I really miss the days of just being able to pop the back off and buying a replacement battery.

mindbleach ,

Only fashion victims thought that.

Companies happily obliged them, bumping the price of phones that break much more easily.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I certainly would prefer a plastic backing than a glass one. Why the fuck does every phone have to be encased entirely in glass? It breaks and it's slippery as fuck, making it more prone to slip out of your hand and break. It's so ubiquitous and universally fucking stupid that I am convinced it's purposely designed so you will drop and break it so you have to pay to fix or replace it.

Every heavy duty aftermarket phone case is mostly plastic and rubberized silicone. Because that shit is 1000 times more durable and shock resistant than glass. Glass's great only for being scratch resistant. There's no reason that every phone couldn't have an otter box-like outer shell built in.

Flax_vert ,

It is actually better for durability if the outer shell is removable as well. Eg, having a durable phone case on a midrange phone is better than a rugged phone. Simply being as you can easily swap the case

I'm going off of hearsay here from a video I saw years ago, but it was comparing a decently durable android in a rugged case with a purpose built rugged android phone. Both sustained similar damage but at least the one with the case could be fixed by a case swap. Other one would need a full on repair.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I find the cheap phones are often the "premium" ones.

Those are the ones with plastic backs, headphone jacks, multiple SIMs, smaller size, lighter weight, good physical fingerprint readers, etc.

Crashumbc ,

No

Mango ,

It's time to stop deciding what other people should like.

Oddbin ,

If it's ones use and out plastic, I'll stick with glass and metal. I know someone is about to say they still cause CO2 and they do, but these materials can at least be easily recycled. This means when the rest of the chain becomes green (for lack of a better phrase) then so will this part.

If however it's using fully reusable and fully recyclable (not just incinerator "recycling") then sure, absolutely no issue. Fully behind it. I'm willing to bet, however, all of the money in my pocket that that's not the case here though sadly.

Twitches ,

I don't think gorilla glass is recyclable however you could use recycled plastics.

Oddbin ,

If not now, soon.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-66359047

As for recycled plastics, I mean, yes? That's kind of the goal. Fully recyclable devices is my desire, regardless of material. Right now, plastic isn't for the vast, vast majority.

oxideseven ,

I've been saying this for years. Use nice textured recycled plastic. The amount of cool textured and nice feeling materials out there is insane.

Gimme a plastic screen too. If someone is concerned about scratches they can add a glass protector. Those people already do anyway. There are even plastics that could be used that would resist scratches incredibly well.

Then my whole phone is flexible and nearly unbreakable.

Doom ,

Bro just make it yourself you probably have enough plastic in your body for it

jcarax ,

I'd give my left nut for a premium plastic phone...

mrfriki ,

Lumia 800 was the most premium feeling phone I’ve ever had. It also felt indestructible.

ShortFuse ,

Phone material stopped mattering the moment camera bumps became a thing. Now, nearly everyone slaps a case to balance out the bump.

That said, I miss my completely mirrored-back Sony Xperia Z5 Premium.

Tywele ,
@Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I miss phones without camera bumps :(

Dark_Dragon ,

"Glass is glass, and glass breaks"
I want a metal back phone. I don't care about wireless charging.

  • 8GB ram
  • 250 GB memory
  • ">6000 mah" battery. Thickness doesn't matter.
  • Fast charging
  • 120hz display

Can anyone suggest me an Android that has all these?

skuzz ,

I want a metal back phone

Steve Jobs did too, they still needed a plastic window for some antennae on the OG iPhone, then went to full plastic. It has become worse now, the back isn't just for wireless charging. It is also for NFC, UWB, and often cellular/gps/wifi/bluetooth may share antenna connections through the back.

Right there with you though. NFC could probably be packed in a band at the top of a phone. UWB seems of dubious value thus far.

fubbernuckin ,

I may have found a phone for you. It's called the unihertz tank 2

  • 12gb ram
  • 256GB memory (expandable)
  • 15500 mah battery
  • 60W charging
  • 120hz display

https://www.unihertz.com/products/tank-2

Comes with a few other really interesting features you don't see on any other phone (like a goddamn laser projector?), though i think the processor is a little underpowered.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

That is one clumsy hiker.

krash , (edited )

How's unihertz track record with providing updates? This is an important factor to avoid artificial obsolescence.

Ilandar ,

What do you mean by track? Unihertz is a small Chinese manufacturer - it makes no guarantees around support and barely delivers any updates to its devices, as is the norm within much of the non-Google, non-Samsung Android market. It's really only within the last couple of years that the industry has actually made a bit of progress in this area.

krash ,

Track record.

This is a norm to be avoided. A phone without updates (at least security updates) should be avoided at all costs considering the potential consequences.

Ilandar ,

I was being a dick and asking a rhetorical question there, because I thought it would be pretty obvious that the support for a small Chinese manufacturer would be abysmal.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Metal back is bound to get dented and scratched. Plastic is the way to go.

2kool4idkwhat ,
@2kool4idkwhat@lemdro.id avatar

FINALLY someone gets this. I don't care about the "premium look" whatever that means, I just don't want my phone to break when I accidentally drop it. Which is why I always put a case on my phone

In fact, I'm pretty sure phone manufacturers started putting glass on the back of phones specifically to make them less durable so that customers buy a new phone sooner

ephemeral_gibbon ,

Nah, it's mostly because all the tech reviewers trashed phones with plastic backs saying they felt cheap. If you look at any of those reviews they always talk about the premium feel.

It also changed from aluminium to glass backs mostly for wireless charging.

Plastic backs are better, but the tech reviewers did a lot of damage there. If they'd tried to influence people and explained why particular made sense instead of trashing it we may have more plastic phones.

Buffalox ,

Nice to finally see a review stating what I've been thinking ever since the Samsung Galaxy 2 was scorned 13 years ago by reviewers for having a plastic back, and not having the premium feel of the much more fragile iPhone.
Ever since it's like a conspiracy of reviewers hailing the premium feel of metal unibodies or glass backs, despite the clearly lower quality of those materials, while dissing superior plastic bodies that weigh less, has way better shock absorption, is less bulky, and is less slippery and therefore less prone to drop out of pockets or bags.
The main reason it feels more "premium" is the extra weight, which is clearly detrimental to usability.

It's like cheap stuff like cheap loudspeakers, where they have iron bars in them to ad weight, to make the speaker "feel" better. Where a speaker with a stronger (magnet) may actually be better.

But with phones it is 100% people fooling themselves, if they think heavier is better, and fragile glass is somehow better than sturdy quality synthetics.

xep ,

Premium phones make little sense, based on what I've seen everyone puts them in cases anyway. "Premium materials" are slippery and "premium thinness" results in insufficient battery capacity so accessories like phone rings get put on them, and people carry around external battery packs.

Why not just make a grippy, practical phone that I can use as a tool, with removable batteries, a 3.5mm headphone jack, and expandable memory?

dingus ,

Stop making sense!!!

MintyFresh ,

Burn the witch!

keyez ,

Because that phone would last and you would only need a new one every 4-5 or however many years instead of 1-2 so capitalist companies won't see that as having any value.

I think companies know what people want and how to make a great phone like that, just none of them will or want to be the first.

slimarev92 ,

The only thing premium phones have going for them are really good cameras. I love midrange phones but the photos they produce are not as good as flagships.

Vilian ,

so fairphone?, look it up, it's a phone maker that do exactly that

SeikoAlpinist ,
@SeikoAlpinist@slrpnk.net avatar

It's funny that we buy these metal and glass phones and then protect them with rubber and plastic cases.

New phones are made to show wear so that they lose resale value.

EarMaster ,

I always buy a new phone and a new case and after some years I ditch the case because it wouldn't hurt to buy a replacement and it feels like a new slimmer version of my trusted phone...

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