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Flax_vert ,

I think it depends on circumstances. Some people are genuine neckbeard NEETs who need to stop being a drain on society. Some people are just jobsearching or in education and aren't assholes to everyone they live with.

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I don't know what your situation is. Do you go outside much? What's stopping you from getting a job? I basically had to exposure therapy myself to the outside world and it was difficult and took nearly two years but it was so so so much worth it.

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I remember a very rude university lecturer called me once when I was in Tesco. He told me to turn off the Tesco self checkout because of background noise. I was in the middle of buying my groceries. Wut.

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I think his wife did. He radiated big "divorced man" energy

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He also called me a "fucking asshole" as well which wasn't very pleasant. Basically he made an appointment for me to come to see him, notification of it was sent in the post as a footnote of a larger letter which didn't arrive until 2 days after.

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Eh, it's quite leftist here and VERY atheistic but honestly I've seen more insane takes come out of Reddit. Here there is reason and sense to those takes, as well as substance.

Is it practically impossible for a newcomer selfhost without using centralised services, and get DDOSed or hacked?

I understand that people enter the world of self hosting for various reasons. I am trying to dip my toes in this ocean to try and get away from privacy-offending centralised services such as Google, Cloudflare, AWS, etc....

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If your SSH is using key authentication and you don't have anything silly as an attack vector, you should be grand.

Flax_vert ,

Jesus never led an army or ruled a country, so we cannot have coins bearing His face or remnants of an army, etc. However, there is plenty of physical proof of the early Church. There is evidence of pilgrimages to Bethlehem early on and Jerusalem as well, such as the church of the Holy Sepulchre, which is a plausible candidate for Jesus' actual tomb.

Here's a whole video covering the topic

Flax_vert ,

An interesting thing about what we have now in Christianity though is that it basically spawned as-is in the first century, with the Gospels and Paul's letters being written decades apart, as well as Church Father's writings being very consistent. Main differences has been the Roman Catholic Church developing their own doctrine such as Purgatory over time, while the Orthodox and the Protestants tend to reject such developments.

So if it is just a legend, something must have happened to cause a consistent story to develop fairly quickly in comparison to the likes of other legends.

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To be fair, if someone said Jesus never existed, they clearly wouldn't be Christian 🤣

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If you compare that with records we have for the likes of Alexander the Great though being 400 years later, it's not that implausible. And you'd be discounting the Christian Gospels and Paul's Epistles which were mere decades after Jesus

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There aren't any contradictions between the Gospels

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... The four Gospels?

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The Gospel of John, the latest Gospel, was written between 90-100AD

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Where?

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Skimmed through some of these, like this which isn't even a contradiction.

Even here you can see that it even shows a verse where Jesus drinks the vinegar in two gospels yet claim it's s contradiction because He didn't receive the wine.

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There is The Great Isaiah Scroll from before Jesus which contains prophecies about Jesus

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What exactly changed, then?

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I did, and it's already knowledge we know about the early church

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Any examples? I'm not going to go through every single one

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Luke and Matthew were referring to acquiring or buying a staff, Mark was referring to simply going as you are. The emphasis was that Jesus didn't want them to excessively prepare for the journey, but simply go out with the sandals they were wearing and a walking stick they had on them.

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.... Really? You know it wasn't originally written in English, right?

That's like saying we cannot be certain about what happens in Harry Potter because it has been translated into 88 different languages 🤦

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You're forgetting that denominations aren't actually that different. They all ascribe to the fundamental beliefs in the death and resurrection of Jesus. We do have the Acts of The Apostles as well which documents the early church. The New Testament was written within 100 years of Jesus and all Christians still follow it

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And neither do the more accurate translations

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Thing is, it goes against man's desires. The other religions that took off generally allow men to take more than one wife, fight wars, etc. Christianity basically asks of one to be poor and selfless and pure

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But things like church structure, importance of tradition and beauty, exact liturgy formats aren't fundamental to the faith. The fundamentals stayed the same. The only real evolution was Roman Catholicism which adopted additional dogmas over time, but that's it really.

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Source?

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I said it was as-is in the context of your statement. Your claim was that the figure of Jesus had evolved over hundreds of years like King Arthur. I said that no, the doctrine surrounding Jesus was basically as-is. Now you're being pedantic about it. The fact is, 99% of the things believed about Jesus nowadays was believed by first century Christians. We can use the New Testament as a source for that, as they are what our beliefs are based on. There are no early records about a Jesus existing that show him not being a divine miracle worker who rose from the dead. Unlike figures - even Christian figures such as St Patrick who had later attributions of legend like leading snakes out of Ireland, or even the Virgin Mary in the Assumption of Mary, Conceived without sin, perpetual virginity, etc. All of which are found centuries later than the original documents actually surrounding Mary, some of which could have even been written in her lifetime.

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The New Testament Writings do not contain any descriptions of a resurrection

Me when I lie on the internet

Matthew 28:2-10 NRSV

[2] And suddenly there was a great earthquake; for an angel of the Lord, descending from heaven, came and rolled back the stone and sat on it. [3] His appearance was like lightning, and his clothing white as snow. [4] For fear of him the guards shook and became like dead men. [5] But the angel said to the women, “Do not be afraid; I know that you are looking for Jesus who was crucified. [6] He is not here; for he has been raised, as he said. Come, see the place where he lay. [7] Then go quickly and tell his disciples, ‘He has been raised from the dead, and indeed he is going ahead of you to Galilee; there you will see him.’ This is my message for you.” [8] So they left the tomb quickly with fear and great joy, and ran to tell his disciples. [9] Suddenly Jesus met them and said, “Greetings!” And they came to him, took hold of his feet, and worshiped him. [10] Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid; go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.”

Mark 16:4-8 NRSV

[4] When they looked up, they saw that the stone, which was very large, had already been rolled back. [5] As they entered the tomb, they saw a young man, dressed in a white robe, sitting on the right side; and they were alarmed. [6] But he said to them, “Do not be alarmed; you are looking for Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has been raised; he is not here. Look, there is the place they laid him. [7] But go, tell his disciples and Peter that he is going ahead of you to Galilee; there you will see him, just as he told you.” [8] So they went out and fled from the tomb, for terror and amazement had seized them; and they said nothing to anyone, for they were afraid.

‭Luke 24:2-9 NRSV

[2] They found the stone rolled away from the tomb, [3] but when they went in, they did not find the body. [4] While they were perplexed about this, suddenly two men in dazzling clothes stood beside them. [5] The women were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead? He is not here, but has risen. [6] Remember how he told you, while he was still in Galilee, [7] that the Son of Man must be handed over to sinners, and be crucified, and on the third day rise again.” [8] Then they remembered his words, [9] and returning from the tomb, they told all this to the eleven and to all the rest.

John 20:1-18 NRSV

[1] Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the tomb. [2] So she ran and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him.” [3] Then Peter and the other disciple set out and went toward the tomb. [4] The two were running together, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. [5] He bent down to look in and saw the linen wrappings lying there, but he did not go in. [6] Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb. He saw the linen wrappings lying there, [7] and the cloth that had been on Jesus' head, not lying with the linen wrappings but rolled up in a place by itself. [8] Then the other disciple, who reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed; [9] for as yet they did not understand the scripture, that he must rise from the dead. [10] Then the disciples returned to their homes. [11] But Mary stood weeping outside the tomb. As she wept, she bent over to look into the tomb; [12] and she saw two angels in white, sitting where the body of Jesus had been lying, one at the head and the other at the feet. [13] They said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping?” She said to them, “They have taken away my Lord, and I do not know where they have laid him.” [14] When she had said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not know that it was Jesus. [15] Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you weeping? Whom are you looking for?” Supposing him to be the gardener, she said to him, “Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have laid him, and I will take him away.” [16] Jesus said to her, “Mary!” She turned and said to him in Hebrew, “Rabbouni!” (which means Teacher). [17] Jesus said to her, “Do not hold on to me, because I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ” [18] Mary Magdalene went and announced to the disciples, “I have seen the Lord”; and she told them that he had said these things to her.

Flax_vert ,

So you got it from some wiki instead of looking at the source text 🤣 fair enough if it wasn't your mistake I guess. It just goes to show that without lies, Atheism dies.

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Every religion apart from Christianity dies without lies

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Try and find a Christian who doesn't believe this 🤣

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There's quite a bit of contrast between Christianity and Islam in terms of how scripture is presented, as Islam teaches that the Qur'an is literally the words of God. As for Judaism, it's unfulfilled, and if the New Testament about Jesus is actually true to what happened, then the Jewish prophecies clearly point to Him. Other than that it's a very elaborate scam made by well educated people which doesn't really give them any benefit.

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They were all executed horribly

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The whole point of Christianity isn't just to "do good". The foundation is that we aren't good enough by nature and are flawed by our own fault, but by trusting in and following God, we can be forgiven. Because Jesus literally existed and was executed for our sins.

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I'm going to start calling myself "muslim" then, as "muslim" means "one who submits to God"

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The protestant reformation didn't do that. In fact, it was the opposite. It was based on the Bible over everything and shedding the idea of a pope who can claim "the rules are whatever I want them to be personally"

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The reformers did not rewrite the Bible.

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I like the optical ones as it works with wet hands

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The Facebook scare is absolute ridiculous. Threads integration can mainstream the fediverse. Basically everyone on Mastodon doesn't want anything to do with Meta, There's no way Threads would suck up a good enough amount of Mastodon's target audience for an extinguish to do enough damage.

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