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iturnedintoanewt , in Blackmagic Camera app with pro video controls lands on Android
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As someone that never heard of this... What's the deal with this camera? Does it do all the processing in the phone, or does it rely on the cloud®?

YourPrivatHater , in This is Microsoft's canceled Surface Duo 3 foldable smartphone
@YourPrivatHater@ani.social avatar

Looks like it was canceled for a reason...

muse ,
@muse@fedia.io avatar

Name checks out

yoz , in Pixel 8a joins the LineageOS 21 build roster

What about moto g84? Any custom Roms ?

Andromxda , in The YouTube app could finally get a sleep timer (APK teardown)
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God damn, just use LibreTube. It has a sleep timer, as well as many other advantages: No ads, no tracking, it uses the Piped API so you don't have to connect to Google servers, and it's fully open source and available on F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.github.libretube/

They're also on Mastodon and they even have a Lemmy community: !libretube

TheChargedCreeper864 ,

I wanted to use it back in the day, but most instances didn't load. Even less often then regular Piped for me. I'd imagine that this wouldn't be particularly improved now that YouTube's doing their whole "Sign in to confirm you're not a bot" spiel

Andromxda ,
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It works pretty well for me. I don't have any problems on piped.video, piped.adminforge.de and piped.ngn.tf

You can also just disable the Piped proxy in the settings, effectively making it function like NewPipe

TheChargedCreeper864 ,

I'll be sure to check out those instances then!

Ilandar ,

I've had issues with instances in the past too, but there's now a percentage next to each one displaying its uptime which I've found useful for stability.

JackbyDev ,

I don't think I realized f droid didn't need a rooted phone. Thanks for this comment!

JackbyDev , (edited )

It just tells me to sign in to confirm I'm not a bot

Edit: changing instances fixed this

Andromxda ,
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You can also disable the Piped proxy at Settings -> Instance -> Disable Piped proxy

JackbyDev ,

Oh, does it still skip ads and stuff?

Andromxda ,
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Yeah, as far as I'm aware, it just runs a copy of the NewPipeExtractor locally, that's the same stuff that's used in the Piped backend.

unrushed233 , in Pixel 8a joins the LineageOS 21 build roster

GrapheneOS has so many advantages over Lineage, there's no reason to use Lineage on a Pixel

BigFatNips ,

There's a ton of advantages, but some very real disadvantages as well. No lsposed and incompatibility with certain magisk modules are probably the biggest for me personally.

unrushed233 ,

What Magisk modules do you need to use?

BigFatNips ,

None, for our holy Savior Daniel M'kay and grapheneOS have saved my soul. For even mentioning magisk I clearly deserve a public flogging, maybe even an execution. Obviously. RoOt iS iNsEcUrE

unrushed233 ,

Bruh I'm just casually asking, what's wrong with that question

iturnedintoanewt ,
@iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee avatar

Sets himself up for the Grapheneos fanboys flogging. I'm using Grapheneos myself, and i agree they are not very... Tactful in addressing some specific usecases. I agree with the doctrine of not weakening the system, but an option should exist for people that understand the consequences, and still need a different use than the one envisioned by the developers. I'm not talking about root, there's more decisions that are made for you without your saying. For your safety. But still.

WagnasT ,

until google stops patching it but lineage still keeps updating

unrushed233 ,

Using a device with no vendor-provided firmware security patches doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Also, the Pixel 8a gets 7 years of updates. That's plenty of time, and most people get a new phone after a much shorter time.

possiblylinux127 ,
@possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip avatar

I'll just stay on Lineage, thanks

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

Graphene is Snake oil, use calyx.

send_me_your_mommy_milkers ,
@send_me_your_mommy_milkers@lemmy.world avatar

Have you read it at all.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

💀

unrushed233 ,

Calyx is pretty insecure by default, it removes some default AOSP security features and is very slow to push security patches. And it doesn't include any of the GrapheneOS security features like hardened SELinux, a hardened kernel, secure app spawning, hardened Chromium browser and WebView or hardware-based integrity attestation. It also uses a very flawed Google Play services implementation (microG) which requires root and has worse app compatibility.

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,

🤓

ladfrombrad Mod , in Android still doesn't support many compression types
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I keep pondering why Android has blobs for CIFS/SMB but not NFS, too.

Still haven't found a legit reason why.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Because Windows is omnipresent and every NAS comes with SMB support out of the box.

zelnix ,

NFS is shit anyway. It has no proper security unless you want to set up something like Kerberos (a major PITA)

ladfrombrad Mod ,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

Yeah no doubt, and that's why I like Tailscale.

I just map all users Tailnet visitors to guest, and give me r/w and all others r/o.

Bugs me though that they could include it, with big red flashy warnings like you get enabling USB debugging.

TheGrandNagus , (edited ) in Android still doesn't support many compression types

Google wants you to handle all your storage needs through Drive and Google Photos, where they are in control, can scrape more data, train models on your photos, and push you onto paid storage plans.

I can't really see the benefit to Google in having an excellent local file manager with wide archive-file support. It doesn't profit them in any way that I can think of.

Thankfully the workaround isn't too bad, just installing an alternative file manager.

averyminya , in Blackmagic Camera app with pro video controls lands on Android

No Sony Xperia 1IV sadly

mtchristo , (edited ) in Pixel 8a joins the LineageOS 21 build roster

LineageOS kinda dead these last years they only do pixel phones. While the hoards of people using android are buying Samsung's and Xioami's budget phones

Edit: after reading the comments. I checked again and was surprised they have updated the list with newer models they weren't on the list a few months ago

loutr ,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

How so? The devices page on the wiki lists 171 officially supported devices. I'm writing this comment on a Poco F3 running the official LineageOS 21 release...

ElectroLisa ,
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Reporting in with a Galaxy Note 10 running unofficial LineageOS 21

ReveredOxygen ,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

Lineage 21 on a Motorola Edge 21 here

bdonvr ,

What the hell are you talking about?

LineageOS is well past it's peak days but they support a ton of devices beyond Pixel.

SatyrSack ,

they have updated the list with newer models they weren't on the list a few months ago

You must be confusing it with GrapheneOS. LineageOS has literally always supported devices from multiple different manufacturers.

9point6 , in Android still doesn't support many compression types

People don't tend to need to browse local archive formats on their phones I guess, and if they do, they'll have a file manager app with support.

There's support for some formats if your files are in cloud storage like Google drive, which is a more likely use case for phone users

ByteMe OP ,

I'm using a Samsung tablet that doesn't support rar for example.

9point6 ,

I suppose you'd fall into my "you'd install a file manager app if you actually needed it" category

ByteMe OP ,

Yeah but it's still weird that there is no native support

9point6 ,

I think a big part of it for RAR specifically is that it's a proprietary format that would technically require Google to license it, and for the tiny percentage of users that would benefit, they don't bother.

A seemingly random but relevant example is the Japanese travel card situation with Pixel phones—every pixel on the planet has the necessary hardware to support Japanese travel cards since the pixel 6, however only pixel phones bought in Japan can use the feature (locked by the OS) because it would mean Google would have to pay a per-device cost worldwide.

This is kinda a similar situation I'd bet, they've proven they would rather not include the feature than pay for licensing

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

I think a big part of it for RAR specifically is that it’s a proprietary format that would technically require Google to license it

Unrar is free enough.

9point6 ,

And there's not really any money to be made charging licenses to open source projects—see ffmpeg/vlc

Google including it in android though means they can charge licenses as a per unit fee because, basically, Google (or phone manufacturers) is a company with money.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Google including it in android though means they can charge licenses as a per unit fee because, basically, Google (or phone manufacturers) is a company with money.

What? This has literally nothing to do with unrar's license terms.

9point6 ,

We're talking about Android, unrar doesn't have anything to do with this really.

RAR is and will continue to be a proprietary format with an owner who can seek royalties.

It's like saying Google should stop licensing MPEG because ffmpeg exists—it simply doesn't work like that

woelkchen , (edited )
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

We’re talking about Android, unrar doesn’t have anything to do with this really.

The entire topic is about RAR archive support on Android, so of course the freely available source code of unrar, released by the RAR developer himself, has absolutely to do with everything here.

RAR is and will continue to be a proprietary format with an owner who can seek royalties.

Nope, unrar's source code is free, released by RAR's developer.

It’s like saying Google should stop licensing MPEG because ffmpeg exists—it simply doesn’t work like that

Nope, it absolutely isn't like that. You just have no clue at all.

   Unrar source may be used in any software to handle RAR archives
   without limitations free of charge, but cannot be used to re-create
   the RAR compression algorithm, which is proprietary. Distribution
   of modified Unrar source in separate form or as a part of other
   software is permitted, provided that it is clearly stated in
   the documentation and source comments that the code may not be used
   to develop a RAR (WinRAR) compatible archiver.

It's not FOSS, given that it comes with the provision that no RAR compressor can be created based on unrar source code but for browsing and extracting RAR archives, the unrar source code as is is absolutely fine.

9point6 ,

Ah fair play, I didn't realise unrar was from the same guy, cheers for the extra context.

So I guess we go back to what else it could be:

  • The licence could still be an issue as it's not FOSS and parts of android are, so I guess that could prevent its inclusion if it's incompatible with existing licences
  • The licence could also be an issue in terms of wanting feature parity with zip support, which would include creation of archives.
  • As I mentioned before, the percentage of users who are interacting with non-zip archives locally on their devices is a pretty small percentage. It may be on the backlog, but it's not going to be far from the bottom in priority.
  • How many of the use cases are not served by the third party app ecosystem sufficiently that it would benefit inclusion in the actual OS and the extra maintenance that would entail
  • RAR is an outdated format and in decline at this point, there are better options to add before getting to it
  • Let's also address the elephant in the room regarding the last point—I don't think I've seen RARs used regularly outside of piracy in quite some time. If that's the main use case, Google is not going to be bothered about supporting it.

There's probably other reasons I've not thought of, but just a couple of the above are enough to explain it IMO

Ephera , in Android still doesn't support many compression types

Google isn't exactly excited about the concept of local files. They would prefer you to keep everything in their online services.

If you need support for these, then installing a separate file manager app is your best bet.
I'm using this one:
https://f-droid.org/packages/me.zhanghai.android.files/
(No idea, though, if it supports unpacking RAR archives.)

Molotov , in Blackmagic Camera app with pro video controls lands on Android

That is so cool!
Installed on a S23 Ultra and it works perfectly!

woelkchen , in Blackmagic Camera app with pro video controls lands on Android
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themoonisacheese , in The YouTube app could finally get a sleep timer (APK teardown)
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The YouTube music app has one today.

cron , in Pixel 8a joins the LineageOS 21 build roster

It's one of the most interesting new phones (at least for me). Moderate pricing, long support, good hardware. And probably many options like LineageOS or Graphene if you want a custom operating system.

Ilandar ,

The design is also noticeably softer and cuter than previous Pixels, which may appeal more to some.

Zwiebel ,

Last time I checked it was the same price as the Pixel 8...

cron ,

I saw offers from 400€, that price seems fair. These offers might depend on your country.

Zwiebel ,

Ah it dropped by 80€ here

Zoomboingding ,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

I got mine for $300 because I'm also on a Fi plan. But I'm sure most phones can be subsidized similarly.

unrushed233 ,

Does Google Fi allow for OEM unlocking (to install a custom ROM)?

reddeadhead ,

I use a pixel from the google store on google fi and had no issues flashing new roms, Cellular worked fine with lineage and graphene on my 6a.

unrushed233 ,

That's great

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