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Emotet , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in Flit's Folding M2 E-Bike May Be the Downfall of Brompton: Does It Have What It Takes?
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£2,000 ($2,500 at current exchange rates) for the Early Bird special. Once those are gone, prices are to be bumped up to £2,500 ($3,150).

weighs no more than 14 kg (32 lbs), battery included.

Together with the battery, the M2 can achieve a maximum range of up to 50 km

From their website:

We will keep the prices the same as the FLIT-16 accessories:
Mudguards – £59.95
Kickstand – £14.95
Spare charger – £49.95
Spare battery – £249.95.

Battery type: FLIT proprietary, lithium-ion 230 Wh, 36 V, 6.4 Ah, LG cells (CE)

So a startup with yet another proprietary electrical system and battery design. That ain't it.

FartsWithAnAccent OP Mod ,
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For that price, I'd just get a Vektron.

Showroom7561 , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in Flit's Folding M2 E-Bike May Be the Downfall of Brompton: Does It Have What It Takes?

Downfall? LOL

Brompton has a multi-decade reputation with a legendary reputation, even with non-cyclists.

Who the hell is "Flit"?

FartsWithAnAccent OP Mod ,
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If Tern didn't take down Brompton, I think they'll be ok lol

Nacktmull , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in Flit's Folding M2 E-Bike May Be the Downfall of Brompton: Does It Have What It Takes?
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Downfall of Brompton? Pride goes before a fall, lol! Brompton is a serious company and established as fuck for a long time now. No fucking hipster startup is going to change that overnight.

lnxtx , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in Second-Gen Walkcar, the Smallest Yet Most Powerful e-Scooter, Is Here
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Walkcar vs. Curb
0:1

Maybe will be useful at a warehouse or a long (laminar) corridors?

RockaiE ,

Forget a curb. A single pebble and you'll faceplant.

FartsWithAnAccent OP Mod ,
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It's like a skateboard with less stability!

TehWorld , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in The Solar Pedilio Aimed To Be a Replacement for Cars but Vanished From the News Instead

I really think that there is a market for whether I cheekily refer to as an OPEC (One Person Electric Car). Aim for a $5-7k price tag. 100 miles of range, max of 80 mph. USA federal refs would require a backup camera but I’d save $ by requiring the end user to bring an iPhone or Android device for any mapping, or infotainment via a single speaker. AC and Heat would be required as I’d expect this to be a commuter car. Storage can be minuscule to non existent as this would not be a standard grocery getter… maybe a big backpack size compartment so the business user can fit their laptop…
Make it small but ok to drive 20 minutes back and forth to the office or for the quick errand. A good second car.

andyburke ,
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What you are looking for is called a scooter.

TehWorld ,

Which scooter has Air Conditioning? I have to wear a dress shirt and slacks pretty often. Showing up drenched in sweat doesn’t work for most people.

Num10ck ,
Sanctus , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in Second-Gen Walkcar, the Smallest Yet Most Powerful e-Scooter, Is Here
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I'm not gonna lie, I'd rather just walk? Lmao it does look cool and sleek though.

FartsWithAnAccent OP Mod , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in Second-Gen Walkcar, the Smallest Yet Most Powerful e-Scooter, Is Here
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I think this one can officially qualify as a shitpost.

pimento64 , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in The Solar Pedilio Aimed To Be a Replacement for Cars but Vanished From the News Instead

our and our 1442 partners

FartsWithAnAccent OP Mod ,
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Sounds promiscuous...

crawancon , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in T1 May Take This Year's Title of Best All-Around E-Bike With Its All-Road Design and Speed

not a fan of the article but it seems like a decent value offering. less than 40 lbs, hydraulic breaks, etc.

katja , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in T1 May Take This Year's Title of Best All-Around E-Bike With Its All-Road Design and Speed

That "article" reads like a commercial.

makingStuffForFun ,
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Like half of the posts in this community.

Wahots , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in Ridden: ADO Air Carbon – The Lightest, Smartest e-Bike Designed for the City
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Looks cool, but constant connectivity is a non-starter. We've seen what happens when the company's servers go down when they go bankrupt. You end up with a bricked bike.

Dumb, repairable ebikes are the way to go.

hanrahan , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in Ridden: ADO Air Carbon – The Lightest, Smartest e-Bike Designed for the City
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I ride a HT 29er MTB for commuting

I need to jump gutters or kerbing when painted bike lanes end, or to avoid idiots in cars trying to kill me by jumping onto the side walks and the back off. I have to ride across mud and dirt trails sometimes and then.I've had to bunny hop concrete or ashpalt slabs tjat are off the road ls on the "bike lane" while they do.work on the road. Nine had to to ride across a reaolynroigh area where big tree roots have raised all the asphalt on the bike lane and lots of other times.

I think I'd die commuting on one of the bikes in the article :(

Atelopus-zeteki , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in Green BeTriton e-Trailer Is a Bike Camper Trailer That Floats, With Unlimited Range
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You can rent it for 100/day. https://my.betriton.com/rent - not my thing, but I'm sure someone will enjoy it.

fubarx , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in Hopper Is a German-Built Three-Wheeler That Unifies the Benefits of E-Bikes and Cars

Toyota made an all-electric version called i-Road 10+ years ago: https://newatlas.com/toyota-i-road-full-enclosed-tilting-electric-three-wheeler/26498/

FartsWithAnAccent OP Mod ,
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There was another one made in the 80s, I forget the name now though. It was an independent company as I recall but it was also stupid expensive.

fubarx ,

Going back, there's also the 1950s-era Reliant Regal (aka Mr. Bean's blue 3-wheeler that keeps tipping over):

nilloc ,

The Sinclair C5 is pretty much the same idea and from the 80s.

But not enclosed.

Jrockwar , to micromobility - Ebikes, scooters, longboards: Whatever floats your goat, this is micromobility in Hopper Is a German-Built Three-Wheeler That Unifies the Benefits of E-Bikes and Cars

14k for a "car" with a top speed of 16 mph / 25 km/h??

I guess they've managed to unify the drawbacks of cars and e-bikes as well.

FartsWithAnAccent OP Mod ,
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Stuff like this always seems to be stupid expensive for some reason.

ahornsirup ,
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Because they're not going to sell a ton of units. Economics of scale work against them. They need to at least break even, and not just on the parts and labour for the unit (which are already higher than they would be on a higher volume product all on their own) but also on the r&d, post-sale support and warranties, administration, etc.

Jrockwar ,

That's a great explanation for why it costs that much, but not for why they think it's a good idea to sell it for that price.

Other companies first build a prototype and gather investment so that they can build a first 1000 (not 60) units and can reach a price that can be attractive for the market. Or build first a niche, super exclusive product so that the lack of economies of scale doesn't matter as much.

In here I just can't see the value proposition really. For half the price I can buy something like a Renault Twizy or Citroen Ami with similar size, twice the speed, twice the range, and still zero emissions. Plus I don't have to pedal, and I get a radio. Why would I ever want this?

nilloc ,

Entrepreneurial ego plays a part I think. Unless they already found 60 people that want them for this price.

Developing an agile enough process and factory to make things like this might be an interesting business model. Probably way Too low profit to attract investors though.

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