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clowncollege

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just a goofy thembo, not too clever

representative of the clown college school of fucking up and getting laughed at. #1 fan of the sophomore album by crazy frog. member of guillotine gang.

piracy advocate and amateur nazi-puncher in training to go pro

#bad_@_hastags #not_cool_enough

pfp is one of buds I hang out with becuz I'm shy of pictures

header is a drawing I did that says Guillotine gang (it turns out I spelled it guillontine gang but what's an extra consonant or two between friends?)

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mighty_orbot , to ActuallyAutistic group
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Neurotypicals: “This person likes me, so I’ll talk to them about things I find interesting.”

people: “The only way this person will like me is if I don’t tell them about the weird things I find interesting.”

@actuallyautistic

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@migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother at what point do you people stop making the same completely uninformed comment on autistic posts that clearly aren't for you and you clearly don't understand?

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INSIGHT MR MAN!!

clowncollege ,
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@migriverat @Elizabeth3 @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother thanks so much, if you didn't clodhop in here to share your valuable insights a bunch of people you don't know could process their own experiences.

Thank god you're here to put a stop to that.

So useful, you

clowncollege ,
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@migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPER INFORMED COMMENT MR MAN, KEEP EXPLAINING WE LOVE IT

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@migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother I am sooooooo interested in being welcoming to you on account of how you are being so cool and not a random with their head up their ass

clowncollege ,
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@punishmenthurts @migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother after being told my whole life that I don't understand my own experience because someone else can't understand my experience, my capacity to be told that same thing by some random doofus who shows up in my little autistic safe space here triggers me so hard

clowncollege ,
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@Elizabeth3 @migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother I'm responding to the other guy, I think you're lovely

clowncollege ,
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@ratcatcher @Elizabeth3 @migriverat @mighty_orbot @actuallyautistic @Starbrother I agree completely, I'm bad at this side of it but trying to get better

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Autistic brains be stupid. Well, obviously not stupid, they just seem to work, or not work, in mysterious ways.

The main one that has always got me, about mine, is that I have no memory for sound, absolutely none. I can't remember a song, or a sound. I can't remember what my parents sounded like and none of my memories carry, for want of a better word, a soundtrack. I can remember what I was thinking and what others were saying, but not hearing them say it, nor any other sound. I also don't dream in sound, at least as far as I know. All my dreams are silent.

And yet, and it's a big yet. I have an excellent memory for voices and sounds. Like many autistics I have near perfect pitch, at least when I'm hearing others sing, or music playing. Just don't ask me to reproduce it, because I can't. If I meet someone I haven't met for a while, then I will almost certainly not recognise their face, or remember their name, but there is a very good chance that I will recognise them from their voice. I am also very good at detecting accents. Even the slightest hint of one in, say, an actor pretending to be an american, will get me searching Wikipedian to see if I am right about their actual nationality.

So, if I can tell the sound of a Honda CBR engine two blocks away, or a voice, or an accent buried deep, I must have the memories to compare against. And yet... nope.

So, as I said, autistic brains be stupid.


clowncollege ,
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@pathfinder @OctaviaConAmore @actuallyautistic I'm confused by what you mean by absolute here

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@pathfinder @OctaviaConAmore @actuallyautistic oh, I didn't see this was a reply to a thread.

Pitch is just wave frequency and there's nothing special about any specific frequency. To call A 440 hertz is basically an arbitrary designation. To do that in an equal temperament tuning system is to pick an arbitrary designation within an arbitrary tuning system.

What we call an in tune A today would be considered sharp or flat at different points in history when the convention was different and the 12 note equal temperament system is a specifically European thing so I'm still pretty confused.

clowncollege ,
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@punishmenthurts @pathfinder @OctaviaConAmore @actuallyautistic well key and tuning are sort of different. Usually in music they call relative pitch the ability to identify any other note given a single note. (So while I might not know exactly where A is, if you play me an A I can give you a perfect B flat or D or any note you want)

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@pathfinder @OctaviaConAmore @actuallyautistic I guess my confusion comes from the term "absolute" which is quite different to me from "sense I have".

As in, maybe it's off to you but would be on to someone else, how do we decide that your on is the absolute on based on a sense you have, that kind of thing.

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@pathfinder @OctaviaConAmore @actuallyautistic it's honestly more me being triggered by how other people use the term "absolute" to talk about music than what you're even saying so sorry if my tone sounds confrontational I don't mean to be

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@pathfinder @OctaviaConAmore @actuallyautistic that means you grew up listening to tons of western music and were trained to expect the conventions of that music.

Having been very specifically trained is quite different from accessing the absolute.

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@pathfinder @OctaviaConAmore @actuallyautistic also for clarification I'm a professional musician myself, a composer, and an autistic person with a special interest in tuning theory who can tell you the difference between a Pythagorean and a syntonic comma.

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@pathfinder @OctaviaConAmore @actuallyautistic I think there's also probably a more highly granular or whatever you want to call it sense of sound itself (which is probably related to like sensory issues and headphones and such) and so it's like an autistic double whammy of pattern recognition and sensory differences.

I know for me I got really heavy into music when I was young because my audio environment was so overwhelming to me my whole life and it was the first time I ever was able to have any control over it. Add to that the stim effect of playing and the opportunity to do the same thing over and over again for hours every day and I was hooked

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@OctaviaConAmore @pathfinder @actuallyautistic I doubt there's a word that will aptly describe it without being confusing in some other way too, it's a kind of weird thing to even exist given that it's predicated on a cultural thing but it seems innate. I think probably ultimately the frustration comes from how taken for granted 12 tone et is.

clowncollege ,
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@OctaviaConAmore @pathfinder @actuallyautistic like "absolute frequency quantized to the 12th root of 2 around a constant of 440" is probably not going to catch on as a term

clowncollege ,
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@Tooden @pathfinder @OctaviaConAmore @actuallyautistic I would argue that country music, by virtue of string bends and blue notes, is actually less deficient in that regard than say, solo piano music which is exclusively limited to those 12 notes

clowncollege ,
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@OctaviaConAmore @pathfinder @actuallyautistic I don't mind that the music is tuned that way, whatever is fun is fun, no harm no foul.

It's more the concept that there are 12 magic things called "notes" that only special people can understand or make use of seems a really harsh way to look at it.

The actual music itself is great, people keep making great music the way fish stay swimming

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@OctaviaConAmore @pathfinder @actuallyautistic sort of a descriptive/prescriptive thing.

I am not mad at grammar per se, but the idea that a specific grammar system is language is annoying to me

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