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The future of is tethered to the of the .

The fate of the 120 remaining hostages in is crucial to any deal to end the protracted and bloody conflict between Israel and . But a senior Hamas official has told CNN that “no one has an idea” how many of them are alive, and that any deal to release them must include guarantees of a permanent ceasefire and the complete withdrawal of Israeli forces from Gaza.

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notwithstanding ,
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@RememberUsAlways @palestine @israel the problem isn’t that it’s just disgusting. The problem is after you make a deal accepting their terms, free 80 hostages and withdraw from Gaza completely, they may suddenly say “oh look! we just found 30 more hostages here in this basement, wanna make yet another deal?”
How does one manage that?

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@notwithstanding

It's a fantastic question.

Once the hostage exchange begins in faith between two parties, the terms expand with the level of trust established.

Last year, a 6 week ceasefire was agreed upon and many hostages were released. Hamas refused to release more so the war continues until today.

This is likely the two possible working scenarios based on your hypothetical. A great question 👍

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GreenFire ,
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It made me so mad this week when instead of celebrations for that brave rescue I saw just so much more pro-Iranian disinformation about perfidy and other ignorant takes.

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@GreenFire

Yes. The entire war is justified with a single hostage rescue.

I fear Hamas retaliation against any living hostages that remain. They will move the hostages for certain and then use them as political tools to extract demands.

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I read early reports they killed three other immigration law violators held by hamas while rescuing the four.

Oh yeah, and one of the four said, sourced from Haaretz:
"Rescued -i : 'Our Greatest Fear Was Israeli Planes'"
https://archive.is/vS48m
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indyradio ,
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@heretical_i @mondoweiss @palestine @israel The link I used from ABC news didn't express it that way.
It sounds like the 3 hostages were killed by Israel in a separate effort, but do I know why really happened?
https://abc7chicago.com/post/israel-hamas-war-what-does-israels-hostage-rescue/14931031/

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@indyradio ABC is most likely correct. I believe those 3 were killed during the kibbutz raid early on. Hamas has been giving a count and location, but not names, of other hostages killed by the IDF, via a number of telegram channels. @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

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nathaliaassaad ,
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I see how you’re enjoying the Israeli massacres in Palestine. I wanted to follow you but you’ve shown your true colors. Good luck and goodbye.

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'We will not surrender': leader fumes after Israel frees .

Appears to be a against in progress.

Time to choose a side.






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https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-805433

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@ManyRoads

I'm really not interested in your bias however,

Here is a "politician" view of war.

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"There is no equivalence between the organisation and , we have made it really clear in condemning the actions of Hamas on October 7, we have made it very clear we want to see hostages released, and we want to see the Israeli response comply completely with international humanitarian law," Mr Chalmers said.






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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-22/chalmers-says-no-equivalence-between-israel-and-hamas-leaders/103877458

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@RememberUsAlways @palestine @israel The ICC does not claim equivalence, merely that both have cases to answer. Isreal could start their own internal inquiry instead.

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@JoCzechowska

...while the in die

I'm sure no one would notice if the started taking hostage and sending in Christian martyrs to Iran.
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Pro-Palestinian protest in turns violent after student rally halted.
"Police were seen using batons against protesters to prevent them from marching past the nearby Monument on their way to Amsterdam city centre.
When protesters arrived at a central Amsterdam University location, protesters barricaded the narrow canal-facing road in front of the university buildings."




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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dutch-police-end-pro-palestinian-demonstration-amsterdam-university-2024-05-07/

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Violence against protesters is not good, but neither is protesters refusing to obey lawful authorities. When protesters force their way into areas that impact public safety, and won't disperse when told to, police have no choice but to stop them, using force if necessary. Police are not paid to get hurt or killed and when they are in danger from a mob, the force will escalate. Unfortunately, the agitators usually escape injury and someone else gets hurt.

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@72mz

The act of protest is never risk free. Taking hostage or using martyr to extract demands is not peaceful protest.
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says 33 "hostages to be freed in 1st phase of a deal may not all be alive.
Terror group said to tell mediators it doesn’t have 33 living people who meet ‘humanitarian’ criteria of initial phase — after Israel agreed to lower previous demand of 40 people.



This may be the end of Palestine.
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@israel https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-says-33-hostages-to-be-freed-in-1st-phase-of-a-deal-not-all-necessarily-alive/

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@energisch_ @RememberUsAlways @palestine @israel
I suppose by terrorists you mean the IDF, right?

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@nathaliaassaad
I suppose every nation is full of then.
I'll still be attempting to rescue on all sides

Educate yourself here:
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Accepting your own proposal at the car dealership.
This doesn't work. I promise.

Stop playing games.




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Well... "no one"... Don't you remember some Israel ministry saying there are no innocents in Gaza?
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bufalo1973 ,
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@Properganda
About "genocidal chants", look for the Great Israel map. It happens to be, what a coincidence! "from the river to the sea" also. Does that mean Israel is a genocidal state?
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If you have an opinion on the in minus the context of the , then you are missing the facts and should not be screaming or .
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Educate yourself here:
https://legal.un.org/avl/ha/icath/icath.html

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@AceZeddex

I didn't make the of .
Israel has broad powers to rescue hostages using any methods from negotiation to assassination.

I'm sorry that my awareness of international laws of warfare doesn't fit your human rights narrative.

We made the laws of hostage taking with excellent foresight to protect nations from terrorists on handgliders taking

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AceZeddex ,
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@RememberUsAlways @palestine @israel also- your argument really doesnt make sense bc even many otherwise brainrotted by state ajitprop Israeli's are protesting the gov't actions as Israel has been carpetbombing Gaza not doing sepcialops bs to extract hostages- which- objectively would be a fucking different situation so different in fact- its objectively not at all comparable to reacting by carpetbombing THEIR OWN DAMN HOSTAGES just like they provably did not care for and provably according to even Israeli pro-state outlets fucked the bag and shot Israeli civs at Kibbutz Berim and others on Oct 7th at one point so desperate for excuses as cover they said uh actually were inept and a teenager just wanted to joyride in a tank and fire some shots off and somehow got in the tank and stole it

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What the student protesters lack is a vision for a future beyond . Their demands are aligned with and neglect any patience for the negotiation.

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josh ,

@RememberUsAlways @palestine @israel I get the sense that we’re not talking about the same things.

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@josh

I'm talking about the lack of vision for an Israel beyond Netanyahu.

I have no idea what you are talking about.
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It's really quite simple according to the .
You take a hostage, you sacrifice your human rights.
is a false flag, one step from and just as ignorant of .
I didn't make the laws of warfare, I'm just the messenger.



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@radiofreearabia

Prisoners are accounted for and fed.

We have no status or location of To even suggest that 6 months of hostage negotiation failing while Israel is attempting to rescue hostages in Palestine is the fault of Israel proves you believe the narrative. Your posts are all "in line" with Hamas demands. I've labeled your account profile as supporting Hamas using the "note"feature.

Good day!
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faab64 ,

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How does someone become so inhumane and ignorant.

This level of stupidity and complete disregard to 76 years of oppression, mass murder, torture, kidnapping, hostage taking, ethnic cleansing and genocide, is only possible if one is full of hate or paid to act like this.

I just can't understand how a person even comes up with such level of garbage?

aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/27/p…

aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/17/i…

theguardian.com/world/2023/nov…

time.com/6548068/palestinian-c…

Plus 100s of other cases IDF and occupation police kidnapped and held family members of palestinian resistance hostage for months and years, long before October 7 events.

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is not interested in but they love .

The hostages will not be released until after unless they are rescued soon.
They will be used a political tool against both and the .

Rescue the using any methods necessary.


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enjoying sacrificing while it rejects timeframes and clings to human equity.






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abstains from the security council vote today.

wants a timeframe for it's survival.

So do the



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