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NOT_RICK , in YSK : Dark patterns among large companies are becoming more mainstream
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Windows 11 is rife with it

I_Fart_Glitter ,

Why do I have to tell my computer several time per week that I do not wish to let the X box app make changes to my computer?? I've never had anything to do with an X box. Oh, now you're going to make my computer unusably slow unless I update and.. what's that.. ? I can't fucking update unless I ALLOW X BOX APP TO MAKE CHANGES TO MY COMPUTER??? Fuck you windows 11.

henfredemars ,

Sounds like it’s not your computer.

To be clear, I do believe it is your computer, but it sure sounds like it isn’t.

I_Fart_Glitter ,

It's X box's computer now..

pop , in YSK : Dark patterns among large companies are becoming more mainstream

We don't need a shitty youtuber to tell us what we've known for years?

EncryptKeeper ,

It’s actually a really well made and comprehensive video that will undoubtedly be a wake up call to lots of people.

Hugh_Jeggs , in YSK : Dark patterns among large companies are becoming more mainstream

should not be tolerated.

Neither should posting YT videos that should've been articles

A paragraph's worth of information stretched into ten minutes? I've got way better things to do with my time

Edit - twenty four minutes, fuckin hell

JimboDHimbo , in YSK : Dark patterns among large companies are becoming more mainstream

That's not even what pisses me off the most about the whole situation. I'm upset that my friends and family don't care.

asteriskeverything ,

gestures to everything else I mean... we are fucking drowning in situations to care about.

JimboDHimbo ,

.....fuckkkk. that's fair.

circuitfarmer ,
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But at a certain point, it's still a cop out. And part of the trick. If you drown anyone in enough bullshit, you can't expect it to all get called out -- but that doesn't mean it's not all bullshit. It is divide and conquer in another form.

egeres ,
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I short of have a theory with this. There's this belief that "netflix killed piracy" because they provided an actual service with a fair price and the commodity that people wanted to watch shows. And that later on, it got enshittified. But I kinda think that, collaterally, a very important factor that explains people not even knowing how to download a torrent or having 0 critical mind when it comes to the other companies abusing their power has been the surge of smartphones

They were designed to have idiot-proof protection, but more and more they distanced newer generations from having a minimal technical background on how to use computers, which then leads to a more ignorant society incapable of saying no to such companies

I'm not saying this has been the main factor but I have my suspicions to believe it might be related

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein ,

This is such a good observation. We all assumed the "digital natives" generation was going to be able to just be hacker-level familiar with technology. And for those who grew up with just PCs, it's probably true. But the "smartphone native" generation followed so quickly it changed the learning patterns. They understand tech generally and specific apps, but get lost with troubleshooting general problems because computers became appliances.

Scary to think but...Are the same young people who a decade ago were tech support for their parents and grandparents going to have to also do it for their adult children and grandchildren?

braxy29 ,

the bad news is that, despite growing up with pc's and having had some level of troubleshooting skill as a result, i have forgotten most of it in the last 10 years as computing/tech has become pushy and handholdy. i suspect this is not uncommon.

edit - but i still miss xp. 😔

Ilovemyirishtemper ,

I am running into this problem at work all the time! I am a Millennial who does corporate training for new recruits in a field that we will almost completely train you on. I.e. you don't have to have a specific degree or certification because we'll train you on the job.

I have found that almost all of the Gen Z hires don't have more than a basic level of computer literacy. They didn't learn the hard way in middle school that if you don't save your essay, it will be deleted. They had auto-save. They don't how to ctrl+alt+delete to get to their task manager to force shut down a frozen program because they (often) used chromebooks or phones/tablets where it was basically an internet machine that could be restarted if need be, but didn't have more involved software. They have never had to troubleshoot issues with burning data onto a CD (archaic, I know, but our job requires it). They don't know how to format a lot of things in Word because Google docs does a lot of it for you (or doesn't even have the option). Hell, they don't always know what a proper address on a letter looks like because they don't send snail mail - although this only relates to tech in the formatting and printing of letters.

So now I'm training them on the new material they have to learn for the job, but also computer intricacies that I learned in middle school on my Gateway computer with like 1 gig of ram and floppy disks. When you needed to format something perfectly for school, but nothing was user friendly, you had to learn a lot of weird tricks and workarounds.

They are generally still better at using the computer than Gen X or Boomers, but the Millenials get computers on a different level because we grew with the tech. Gen Z can pick up new software quicker, but still don't always get how things actually work.

I also thought that as true digital natives, they would know a lot more than they actually do. I agree with the likelihood that we will more than likely have to translate for our elders and the younger generation as well.

capital ,
Carighan , in YSK : Dark patterns among large companies are becoming more mainstream
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Exploitative patterns like those idiotic youtube thumbnails the creators are using to draw extra attention to emotions not actually present in the video?

Or making half hour videos for all of 14 sentences of actual content, to stretch the ad-income as much as they can.

Yeah, that. Wish I could give a video -1 view instead of +1 after clicking onto it. Fuck youtubers such as this one, they're part of the problem and don't get to have a say in what we should or should not try to care about.

Ultragigagigantic ,
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Youtube face.

People feel the need to monetize everything in their lives just to survive (not thrive). Consider directing your anger towards those who have purchased our government from us. Rather then being mad at the digital equivalent of a dude on a highway offramp holding a cardboard sign and begging for living expenses.

Sunny , in YSK : Dark patterns among large companies are becoming more mainstream
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Freaking Ironic using a VPN as a sponsorship for this video... VPN landscape is literary riddled with Dark Patterns. Surfshark are also guilty of applying these.

UckyBon ,

Those sponsored ads just tell me to avoid those companies. I'm not from the US, so some stuff goes right over my head (food delivery, clothing), but anything tech related (VPNs, browsers, password managers, etc.) I'll just gonna double down to never use or look into those companies.

Blackmist , in YSK : Dark patterns among large companies are becoming more mainstream

Skipping a month of Humble Choice is an exercise in gotchas. Sometimes the blue button, sometimes not, about 5 confirmation screens to skip through.

I don't know why I'm still subbed in all honestly.

Dreizehn , in Staples plan is to recycle nearly everything — and pay their customers for it.
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Kudos to Staples, their stores might see me more often.

applepie , in Staples plan is to recycle nearly everything — and pay their customers for it.

10 off on purchase of 30+ if you recycle.

smart way to drive traffic.

2000mph , in Staples plan is to recycle nearly everything — and pay their customers for it.

Great, we should see many more companies accepting back everything they sell as recycling. It should be the norm.

Hazzia ,

Legitimately, i was floored when I learned how much bestbuy charges for recycling electronics (smart tv, specifically). Like motherfucker the precious metals in the components alone should be enough for you why are you charging me a benjamin on top of that??

I figured out how to recycle it through my city, instead. Massive pain in the ass to do, but at least they didn't CHARGE ME

over_clox , in Staples plan is to recycle nearly everything — and pay their customers for it.

Does anyone know some of the finer grained details of this recycling program? I'm not exactly a regular Staples customer, but I definitely have some shit that is better off recycled. Like no chance of fixing a few phones I've found smashed in the road...

intensely_human ,

For at least the last five years, the Staples in the Boulder 29th St Mall takes any electronics you have for recycling. The process is you hand it to them or drop it in a box they have sitting there.

Unsure if this applies to other Staples, but at least that one in Boulder, 29th St Mall, does this easy

Alice ,
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otherbarry , in Staples plan is to recycle nearly everything — and pay their customers for it.

Wow that's a useful list of things they accept for recycling. It's a total PITA to recycle anything electronics related in my city especially stuff like computers & hard drives let alone cables. That may end up getting me inside a Staples more often than once every year or two so maybe their plan is going to work.

SacralPlexus , in Staples plan is to recycle nearly everything — and pay their customers for it.

We’ll gladly accept and responsibly recycle the following:

 

Adapters & hubs

Apple® AirTag® trackers

Battery backup devices

Cable/satellite receivers

Calculators

Car & wall chargers

CD/DVD/Blu-ray discs & players

Coffee brewers (less than 40 lb.)

Computers & Mac®

Computers

Computer speakers

Connected home devices

Digital & video cameras

Digital projectors

Earbuds & AirPods®

Fax machines

Flash drives

Gaming consoles & controllers

GPS devices

Hard drives

Headphones & headsets

Keyboards & mice

Label makers

Laminators

Laptops & MacBook®

Mobile phones & iPhone®

Monitors (CRT, LED/LCD, plasma)

MP3 players & iPod®

Printers & multifunction devices

Routers & modems

Scanners

Shredders

Small servers

Smart speakers & HomePod®

Smart watches & Apple Watch®

Stereo receivers

Streaming devices & Apple TV®

Stylus pens & Apple Pencil®

Tablets, iPad® & eReaders

USB & Lightning® cables

Webcams

kaitco ,

I literally just set a box of half this stuff in front of Goodwill and ran away. Next time, though…

Passerby6497 ,

Why would you just set it in front of Goodwill? That's littering!

You should go donate it directly in closed boxes so they can't just ignore it on the sidewalk. Plus, they'll probably even give you a coupon for your next visit.

localme ,

Thanks for posting the list!

Full details here:
https://www.staples.com/stores/recycling

oilumiun12 , in YSK: You can distinguish your comment from other comments as a mod in Lemmy

fnaf Will try it when needed

Nighed , in YSK: You might save on car rental by cancelling and re-booking over time before your rental due date
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Obviously, check the price before booking. I assume like most things here it can either go up or down as you get closer depending on demand.

speaker_hat OP ,

Yeah.

I checked the price, I booked, and then cancelled the previous one.

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