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quantenzitrone , in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it
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Unexpected Keyboard has A Ctrl key that does pretty much everything you expect

dustyData , (edited ) in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it

Uuhh, I know we are talking about phones. But the stock keyboard supports all desktop shortcuts when Android runs on a tablet. Like, I'm using them right now on a Samsung A8.

boredsquirrel OP ,

What? Screenshot or I dont believe you

gamermanh ,
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I can't SS it because it's covered in like 2 inches of dust and dead as fuck but my old pixel tablet was the same way

dustyData , (edited )

Well, I'm downtown right now and I no longer have my tablet with me. But here's from the horse's mouth. It says Galaxy Tab S, but it applies to all Galaxy tablets. There you can see the ctrl key on the tablet's default keyboard. That key has full functionality for the common shortcuts. That's undo, redo, copy, cut, paste, and select all. I use them all the time ever since I got it. Both tablets and phones can undo and redo if you connect a bluetooth keyboard to them too.

The Samsung keyboard for phones also acquires the powers of undo and redo if you activate the swipe gestures.

I don't know why it is so simple on the tablet but not on the phones, but whatever. It's a UX quirk, it's not some magic that the keyboards are creating. Android has an UndoManager right in the OS since before 2018. It is what apps that have undo buttons use themselves.

PhlubbaDubba , in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it

Probably to facilitate it on the Android Studio test environment, that or it's legacy from the linux kernel

boredsquirrel OP ,

I dont think the text input is in the kernel?

PhlubbaDubba ,

I mean because android is a linux based OS it could have inherited ctrl-Z from Linux's list of ctrl options.

herrvogel ,

Does the kernel even have that functionality built into it? I thought it only mapped the raw data from the keyboard into actual key presses, but nothing more. That is to say it's the kernel that determines the ctrl and z keys are being pressed, but it's something higher on the stack that determines what to do with that information. Could be wrong, though.

sparkle ,
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pretty sure i remember just pressing ctrl-c/ctrl-v on the android studio emulator

Ghostalmedia , in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it
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I’m always kind of surprised that, Google has yet to follow iOS in having universal, system wide, undo / redo shortcuts.

Back in iOS 1 and 2, we used to mock Apple for lacking universal undo. Then they added that shake to undo feature in iOS 3. That gesture is stupid as hell, and the newer three finger gestures are also kind of janky, but at least they work everywhere.

bungle_in_the_jungle , in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it

There was a keyboard ages back that had a really nifty swipe shortcut for that. I really miss that keyboard!

Lojcs , in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it

They also show up on the context menu in supported apps regardless of the keyboard, no?

davidgro ,

No.

boredsquirrel OP ,

No idea I avoid those like hell, the press is too slow and it is always changing.

Really, the inventors of "intelligent context menus" can go to hell

Prunebutt , in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it

Thumbkey has it, too.

mercano , in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it
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iOS has a non-obvious undo / redo, too. To access the undo menu, shake the phone.

Ghostalmedia ,
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It’s also had the three finger tap gestures for 5 years. There are gestures to quickly copy, paste, undo, redo, etc.

They’re also something you need to learn and can’t really intuit. But, like shake, they are system wide.

https://9to5mac.com/2019/06/12/gestures-undo-ios-iphone-ipad/

mercano ,
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I miss the pressure sensitive my iPhone 5 had. A hard press immediately pulled up the copy / paste menu. I think th

bdonvr ,

That started with the 6

mercano ,
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I miss the pressure sensitive touch screen my iPhone 7 had. A hard press immediately pulled up the copy / paste menu.

PhlubbaDubba ,

That sound you heard was my mom trying to test this leading to her iPhone getting yeeted through a window

Duke_Nukem_1990 , (edited )

This can't be true.

Edit: Just tried on my work phone. Wtf.

9point6 , in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it

Wanna know something weirder?

The official Google keyboard has undo too—just only on the Japanese locale (perhaps on similar languages too)

No idea why it's not at least an option to put on the suggestion bar for every other language

boredsquirrel OP ,

Hahaha thats absurd

lnxtx , in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it
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Sounds like a bad UI/UX. Rely only on the keyboard provider.

Add "HeliBoard" to the list.

sub_ubi , (edited )

Where is it?

Edit: found it, on suggestion bar

NeatNit , (edited ) in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it

A thing I did with Key Mapper from F-Droid lets me undo by pressing Volume Down + Volume Up, and Redo by pressing Volume Up + Volume Down (the order matters). If anyone's interested I can share how to set it up.

Note that it'd work better and more seamlessly if you use Shizuku, but I don't so there's some caveats. I'll happily go into more detail if anyone wants, just ask.

kamenlady ,
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The development stopped for KeyMapper, sadly

NeatNit ,

Still works.

Development stopped on Hacker's Keyboard in 2018(?) and people keep using it.

kamenlady ,
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I installed it and will try it out. Android 15 Beta made it slightly difficult to give some permissions. I'll have to figure it out first.

I have Shikuzu installed, curious to see how it enhances it. I only found a few apps that use Shikuzu, most of them also from Shikuzu's developer.

MotoAsh , (edited ) in Android has a "Ctrl+Z" feature, the keyboards just dont support it

Hacker's Keyboard can. Because it's just a condensed full keyboard, ctrl, alt, arrow keys, function keys, and most of the rest included.

clb92 ,

I rarely use that keyboard, but once in a while you just need to type something in a terminal or a remote desktop or something, and it really comes in handy then.

NeatNit , (edited )

Take a look at Unexpected Keyboard too, it's great and actively developed. F-Droid / GitHub / Play Store

DAMunzy ,

Cool one, but I use swipe to type. Gboard is my main driver

NeatNit ,

Me too, but Unexpected Keyboard is useful for niche situations that crop up.

gedaliyah , (edited )
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Heliboard has the option to add swipe, and FUTO has it built in.

meekah ,
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Heliboard supports swiping, but only once you separately download some library from google. I figured its better than using gboard exclusively though

boredsquirrel OP ,

Same

boredsquirrel OP ,

Yes, I formerly used that. But as it is unusable, I left it out

elbarto777 ,

Such an unhelpful comment.

boredsquirrel OP ,

Wow. Dude.

Wow.

Now look at the post and see that I literally added that keyboard, plus any random keyboard people mentioned in comments.

elbarto777 , (edited )

I was referring to the "so unusable" part. But ok.

What makes it unusable?

boredsquirrel OP ,

Its keys are too small and not configurable, basically that.

elbarto777 ,

Got it. Thanks.

lolcatnip , in YSK: You don't need Gmail to create a Google account

Damn. I worked for Google for almost 10 years and I had no idea.

MicrowavedTea , in YSK: StreetComplete app for Android, a way to fill map data in a game like way

I've always wanted to try this but is there a privacy implication? I guess it connects to an openstreetmaps account, which will then keep a public history of all the places you've been.

lemann ,

Jawg would know everywhere where you go, since they provide the tile data. I don't think they would be able to link it to an OSM account though

The public would be able to identify where you go because your changes would be published against your username, as it is with Wikipedia

MicrowavedTea ,

Yeah it's the public part I meant. All changes would be shown under a single account.

mox , (edited ) in YSK: You don't need Gmail to create a Google account

For example: Let’s say your email is [email protected].

YSK: These domains are reserved for use in examples:

  • example.com
  • example.net
  • example.org

Why YSK: Using these instead of made-up domain names reduces the chance of confusing readers, eliminates the possibility of phishing attacks, and avoids sending unwanted traffic to made-up domains if they happen to belong to someone.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2606#section-3

pewgar_seemsimandroid ,
hiramfromthechi OP ,
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Nice to see this as a standard, thanks. Edited to reflect this.

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