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Flyberius , in Finally, fans are getting what they've been demanding for years, a crossover event between the Kelvinverse and... World of Tanks
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I enjoyed casually playing this and world of warships. But I immediately bugged out of warships as soon as the anime themed battleships started appearing. I could pretend I wasn't playing a freemium piece of shit until that moment. Now they have megadeth themed ships too. So dumb.

TachyonTele , in Finally, fans are getting what they've been demanding for years, a crossover event between the Kelvinverse and... World of Tanks

Fortnight fuming right now

USSBurritoTruck OP Mod , in Canon Connections: DIS 5x05 - Mirrors
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Apologies that this one's going up even later than usual. Time kinda got away from me this past week.

Corgana ,
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I WANT A REFUND

(And don't' tell me they don't use money in the 23rd century)

USSBurritoTruck OP Mod ,
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They do 100% use money in the 23rd century! 24th century is a bit more debatable, but I'm still on the side of they use money.

Corgana ,
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But Kirk told the pretty lady they don't

USSBurritoTruck OP Mod ,
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I like the idea of Kirk pulling out his wallet to try and chip in for beer and pizza in 1986 with a couple strips of latinum, some Klingon darseks left behind on the Bounty, and whatever Federation credits he has, which I assume are a digital currency.

askryan ,

It's okay man, chronophages happen to the best of us

ValueSubtracted Mod , in Canon Connections: DIS 5x05 - Mirrors
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The episode was dedicated to Allan “Red” Marceta, a set dresser who passed away in 2022.

I wonder if the bar is named after him, too.

USSBurritoTruck OP Mod ,
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That was my assumption.

Domiku , in Toronto Stage Used For ‘Discovery’ Renamed “The Star Trek Stage” By Pinewood Studios

Should’ve named it The Holodeck!

ValueSubtracted OP Mod ,
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I think they use that name for the AR wall facility - they stuck a sign on the door and everything.

daft61lunacy , in Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Discovery | 5x06 "Whistlespeak"

Ah yes we had to have a Prime Directive bending episode in Disco.

khaosworks , in Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Discovery | 5x06 "Whistlespeak"
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Today’s annotations will be a little late - it’s been a day (to those few who were looking out for them).

ValueSubtracted OP Mod , in Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Discovery | 5x06 "Whistlespeak"
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My expectations for this one were low based on the preview, but I enjoyed this one more than I thought I might. A very "traditional" Star Trek plot in many ways.

Watching the Culber/Stamets interactions, I wonder if they're going to address the "awakening" that Stamets had following his genetic modification. That's something that's been mentioned a bunch of times (as recently as two episodes ago), but I don't remember them ever digging really deep into it. It seems like there are some parallels there that could be explored.

askryan , in Canon Connections: DIS 5x05 - Mirrors

evolved to be more sensitive to light, resulting in everyone tending more towards malevolence, and barbarism, and queer coded villainy.

You know, I spent the whole episode sort of wondering if they were going to try and speculate that all the species of the Mirror Universe are campy jerks because in that universe the Progenitors were campy jerks. But I suppose I'm glad they didn't try and explain it, and it's still just a little pastureland for the actors to go chew scenery.

SteleTrovilo ,

I've had the impression that in the Mirror Universe, it was only the humans/terrans which behaved differently. Everyone else we see seems like their usual selves (accounting for different circumstances of course).

The DS9 episodes throw a wrench in this of course, with Kira being a very different person and the oppressed terrans being sympathetic.

askryan ,

Enterprise’s mirror universe episodes also have that Dr. Mengele version of Phlox. Of course, I’m always happy for an excuse to pretend that Enterprise didn’t happen.

ValueSubtracted OP Mod , in The Ready Room: "Whistlespeak" (Alex Kurtzman interview)
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One day, I'd really like to get an oral history of the making of this show, particularly those tumultuous first two seasons...

TotallyNotSpez ,

There's a documentary called Chaos on the bridge by William Shatner about it:

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2880448/

ValueSubtracted OP Mod ,
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I was referring to Discovery specifically, but I have heard good things about that doc.

TotallyNotSpez ,

It is pretty good. Watched it about a week ago. I can't add anything about DIS since I barely made it through the first four seasons and lost interest in it real quick.

ValueSubtracted Mod , in Star dates – is one day equal to 0,07 SD in TNG?
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I'm a big believer in "stardates are nonsense, and should remain nonsense," but there were efforts made to standardize them in the '90s. They weren't particularly consistent efforts, though. The full history can be found here.

In early TNG, this was the explanation:

A stardate is a five-digit number followed by a decimal point and one more digit. Example: "41254.7." The first two digits of the stardate are always "41." The 4 stands for 24th century, the 1 indicates first season. The additional three leading digits will progress unevenly during the course of the season from 000 to 999. The digit following the decimal point is generally regarded as a day counter.

By TNG season 6, they were going with:

A Stardate is a five-digit number followed by a decimal point and one more digit. Example: "46254.7". The first two digits of the Stardate are "46." The 4 stands for the 24th Century, the 6 indicates sixth season. The following three digits will progress consecutively during the course of the season from 000 to 999. The digit following the decimal point counts tenths of a day. Stardate 45254.4, therefore, represents the noon hour on the 254th "day" of the fifth season. Because Stardates in the 24th Century are based on a complex mathematical formula, a precise correlation to Earth-based dating systems is not possible.

PumpkinEscobar ,

The headings / bearings they use are all over the place too, remember looking it up and it feels like the writers just picked whatever numbers best fit the flow / cadence of dialog they were looking for

KillingAndKindess ,
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And they nailed it especially with Sir Patrick Stuart's short monologues.

klemptor ,

Not always. On DS9, when the Defiant was departing the station, the heading was given as 180 mark zero - meaning, traveling exactly backward from their current position. This made sense because when docked, the Defiant's nose is buried in the docking ring.

PumpkinEscobar ,

Yeah, some shows did have their own consistent-ish systems, but I think some shows used a system that seemed to be relative to the center of the solar system, others from the perspective of the ship (which makes more sense to me, like naval bearings) - https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Heading.

It was a quick lookup from a long time ago, I was working on a 3d space game and was curious if ST had a consistent model I could just use.

corvi ,

I guess when you’re traveling around faster than the speed of light, time and date stop meaning the same thing as they do back home, so it stands to reason that you couldn’t map stardates to any standard calendar.

At least, that’s my new headcanon.

mosiacmango ,

Stardates themselves should be a standard calendar at least amongst themselves.

corvi ,

I suppose it could go either way. That would be true if we see stardates as a universal system that applies anywhere and everywhere. If we instead imagine them to include encoded information about local space time, it makes sense that they might be inconsistent but always moving forward.

I am, of course, using “makes sense” extremely loosely here.

mercano ,
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It also removes an emphasis on any one particular planet’s day or year.

wjrii ,

Because Stardates in the 24th Century are based on a complex mathematical formula, a precise correlation to Earth-based dating systems is not possible.

Hand successfully waved.

Logh ,

“4 stands for the 24th century” so… just a couple of centuries until another y2k style panic?

khaosworks , in Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Discovery | 5x06 "Whistlespeak"
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Annotations for 5x06 up at: https://startrek.website/post/9827520

ptz , in The Flight of the Phoenix illustrated in the style of a NASA infographic.
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Gorgeous. I would love to get that printed poster-sized and framed for my office.

Corgana OP ,
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I tried to find out more about the guy who made it but he hasn't posted to BBS since 2020, has a suspended reddit account, and a deleted Twitter.

I have to imagine someone that trekkish is at least familiar with Our Website so fingers crossed someone might know him because I would totally get one of these too.

ptz ,
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That'd be awesome 🤞

Davel23 ,

If you manage to contact him, get him to correct the several misspellings of "separation".

SteleTrovilo , in Canon Connections: DIS 5x05 - Mirrors

In regard to the Breen, I would note that Star Trek Adventures: Klingon Core Rulebook says "They only
present themselves to non-Breen in full-body suits that hide
their identities, and their bodies disintegrate when they die
while wearing those suits. While this is an admirable trait – it
means Breen cannot be taken prisoner, an attitude in line
with the teachings of Kahless – it has made it impossible to
determine the true face of the Breen." This is a pretty cool explanation for how Worf could be right even after Kira and Dukat stole their suits.

I know STA isn't canon but I still like this reasoning.

ValueSubtracted Mod ,
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I don't know specifics, but I think STA took that from some of the novels - they're pretty good about drawing from existing material.

USSBurritoTruck OP Mod ,
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I like the idea that the Breen bodies loose consistency upon death, especially if they're more gelatinous in their natural form, as these episodes of DIS appear to be presenting them.

However, I do not envy Kira and Dukat having to scoop a bunch of Breen jello out those helmets before putting them on.

Dagwood222 , in The Flight of the Phoenix illustrated in the style of a NASA infographic.

[off topic]

"The Flight Of The Phoenix" is a great old-style Hollywood movie. A plane crashes in the African desert and the crew and passengers have to find a way to get home. Exactly the kind of movie Roddenberry would have been thinking of when he pitched TOS.

https://youtu.be/V0hIoLNecqI

hallettj ,
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That's a good one, and also the first thing I thought of.

There's also a remake that's not bad that features Hugh Laurie using his native accent.

Dagwood222 ,

Star Trek TOS episode 'Balance of Terror' is basically an updated submarine movie.

That's not a put down. They had to teach people how to watch science fiction.

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