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Radiant_sir_radiant , in Harassment of scientists is surging — institutions aren’t sure how to help

Seriously, health departments around the world should have offered a fourth Covid certificate during the pandemy - tested, vaccinated, recovered and "will irrevocably forego any right to treatment in a hospital in case of infection". That way all the tinfoil hats couldn't have spread their 'dictatorship' bullshit nearly as easily, because hey, all you have to do in order to be able to go to the pub is to absolve society of the risk of you catching an absolutely harmless and possibly even imaginary cold.
Let a few thousand of those fuckers die and at the same time keep the hospital beds free for those who need them through no fault of their own. Watch the survivors crap their pants and mumble something about science maybe not being so bad after all.

The problem is that some people consider stupidity to be a virtue. That's their right (sadly), but they shouldn't be able to make society suffer the consequences.

eveninghere , in Harassment of scientists is surging — institutions aren’t sure how to help

The governments are abusing researchers. How do institutions even help them?

NoneOfUrBusiness , in Harassment of scientists is surging — institutions aren’t sure how to help

Stochastic terrorism folks.

snownyte , in Harassment of scientists is surging — institutions aren’t sure how to help
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You know, people keep asking what America is going to be like 10, 20 or even 50 years from now.

I'm going to tell you that we'll have some of the most spottiest blotches of our history. It'll be rooted from the times and events where extremely aggressive opposers to generally anything intellectual have gone on crusades to undermine anything they think is a huge problem, like scientists.

This will be our Burning of the Library of Alexandria. We'll just have inconclusive data to our researches because of politically charged people.

darkphotonstudio ,

I seriously doubt the USA will exist in 50 years. Probably less.

kent_eh ,

seriously doubt the USA will exist in 50 years

As someonenin a country that shares a land border with the Americans, I am increasingly concerned about the instability (and likely violence) that will accompany that impending collapse.

I hope sanity can prevail, but it's looking pretty bleak.

OpenStars ,
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Not in its current form at least - this pot is boiling over. Then again, climate change may end human habitation in most areas on earth by then too, so there's that to consider as well:-P.

darkphotonstudio ,

Like Russia, it's the leftovers of a country clinging to a cold war military machine. When the US pissed away their manufacturing base and killed their unions in the 70s and 80s, it was over.

Jaysyn , in Harassment of scientists is surging — institutions aren’t sure how to help
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Hiring the Pinkertons to harass your enemies has historically worked great for US companies, maybe these colleges should take those huge fucking endowments they are sitting on & try a variation of that.

After all, you've got to speak to people in a language they can understand.

darkphotonstudio ,

They need to be harassed back.

Jaysyn ,
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They need to be launched into the fucking sun, but counter harassment is a good start.

drwho ,
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Historically, playing by Chicago Rules when reacting has done pretty well. It's certainly worked pretty well for me.

Nougat , in Harassment of scientists is surging — institutions aren’t sure how to help

Sounds like these are the kinds of incidents that police should take care of. But the odds are probably better that you'd end up with two problems.

RobotToaster , in Harassment of scientists is surging — institutions aren’t sure how to help
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This isn't really anything new, it's just historically had less sympathetic victims https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/16/academics-are-being-harassed-over-their-research-into-transgender-issues

alyqz ,

Personally, the "just asking questions" transphobes being called on their bigotry doesn't really seem the same as medical researchers getting harrased for trying to find treatments for deadly diseases...but maybe that is just me.

OpenStars , in Harassment of scientists is surging — institutions aren’t sure how to help
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And judges, and journalists, and election counting officials, and engineers (tbf whistleblowers like at Boeing and for train safety may be a different style of targeting, more profit- than politics-driven), and remember the arson of Bernie Sanders house, and the guy with the hammer at Pelosi's, plus all the random people who simply get shot b/c an angry young white man was radicalized, and we should not forget the good police who try to hold the line against the bad ones, and get harassed (possibly killed) as a result.

Also, many doctors and nurses either died or left medicine altogether - some literally left society itself behind as they headed for the hills (mountainous regions farther away from the denser population areas) - due to their experiences during the pandemic, especially from people coming in with guns threatening them to save their loved ones, who ofc at that point were well past saving (a vaccine != a cure).

The USA has not been a first-world nation for a long while (and not just b/c it's an outdated term).

This is what we get when we want BuT oUr FrEeDuMs ThO. Disinformation is deadly. I wish we would remember that the next time Marjorie Taylor Greene tweets out the home address of a fellow congressperson, which surely was not intended for any kind of... "harm", goodness gracious me, why, perish the thought!

darkphotonstudio , in Harassment of scientists is surging — institutions aren’t sure how to help

Western education has failed. This is how a society is destroyed.

PerogiBoi ,
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I’m not a scientist but work alongside some stuff that was amplified in politics recently and adjacent to scientists and for my wife and my safety, I never tell anyone where I work or what I do. If anyone asks, I work in IT and most people are okay with that.

We risk vandalism, violence, and harassment otherwise. People are angry and ignorant and desperately want blood.

darkphotonstudio ,

Right-wing people.

drwho ,
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I'm in a similar situation these days. Things are too crazy these days for that kind of risk.

OpenStars ,
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And not too picky from whom they extract it, yup. Stay safe PerogiBoi!

Quexotic ,
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My wife stopped wearing a pentagram and we took down our love your neighbor sign, you know the one that has that same phrase and several different languages...

Turns out the Christians are too unlike their Christ.

PerogiBoi ,
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I’m really sorry to hear that. Love your neighbour shouldn’t have any sort of political slant to it but I guess we don’t live in that world. We couldn’t put our menorah in the window during chanukkah this year for the same reason. Some people can’t differentiate Jews between Israel’s government and I’m not taking any more chances getting my living room window shot up by BB guns again.

Windows are so expensive.

Quexotic ,
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Wow. That's really awful! I definitely feel some kind of way about not being surprised about that too.

smithkv ,

No. It's because of countries like Russia and China pushing conspiracy theories and hateful behavior through things like social media. People don't act like this normally. It's because they are taught to.

darkphotonstudio ,

You kind of stated pretty much what I did.

Steve , in Microplastics found in every human testicle in study

Oh nuts

sk , in Microplastics found in every human testicle in study
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over centuries we'll successfully mummify ourselves with plastics.

Argongas , in Microplastics found in every human testicle in study

Balls

DemBoSain ,
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1hitsong ,
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Oh yeah? You got a place down there in New Orleans?

SadSadSatellite , in Microplastics found in every human testicle in study

If we want to get conservatives on board with environmental protections, we should just start a conspiracy that the perceived rise in trans people, gays, and autistics is due to plastic ester groups in the environment. Then tell them that these groups are represented in the media so much now because the petrolium companies don't want us to see it as a problem when the science breaks.

Brb, gotta go convince some trumpers single use plastic is making their kids gay.

thebes ,
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@SadSadSatellite @remington I'm visualizing sperm in plastic armor. Think Imperial stormtroopers. The Death Stars were giant balls, after all🫠😆

Megaman_EXE ,

What's hilariously sad is that this could work

chicken ,

I remember conservative conspiracy types were all over the idea that covid was going to be uncontainably catastrophic right up until the pandemic really happened and the party line was suddenly that actually the virus isn't real after all, at which point they did an about face rather than delivering actually well deserved "told you so"s.

Point being, as soon as they see

the petrolium companies don’t want us to see it as a problem

They will suspect this sentiment is disloyal to their political tribe and definitely automatically discard it on that basis.

FrostyCaveman ,

That’s basically already a thing what with the gay frogs and such

Appoxo , (edited ) in Microplastics found in every human testicle in study
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To say I'm surprised would mean I would be required to lie...

KillingAndKindess , in Microplastics found in every human testicle in study
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Jokes on you BP, I'm getting mine removed anyways!

In all seriousness though, this is concerning.

Zoop ,

You should get a really powerful slingshot and yeet them right into some petroleum executive's face!

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