Right to Repair

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Spacehooks , in ‘It has officially happened’: Mechanic says he can’t work on your car because they’ve officially been locked out of computer systems

The auto industry is full of POS bullies. Everytime one for them goes into another industry they are totally turds and mess everything up then leave cause no one likes them and they pissed off vendors.

bekopharm , in ‘It has officially happened’: Mechanic says he can’t work on your car because they’ve officially been locked out of computer systems
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Some argued that the new requirements were to protect cars from theft.

Car thieves: Oh noeeees… anyway 🤷

Gradually_Adjusting , in ‘It has officially happened’: Mechanic says he can’t work on your car because they’ve officially been locked out of computer systems
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Oh

🚽

That's 21st century ownership rights

sp3tr4l , in ‘It has officially happened’: Mechanic says he can’t work on your car because they’ve officially been locked out of computer systems

I used to have a Prius C, got it used.

95% of shops wouldn't touch it for anything non cosmetic. Hybrid, confusing, scary!

Learned how to work on it myself, before it got stolen.

Guess I just got the beta version of not being able to have your car serviced, due to good old fashioned blue collar laziness and incompetence.

tempest , in ‘It has officially happened’: Mechanic says he can’t work on your car because they’ve officially been locked out of computer systems

I mean every other company is going this shit why should car companies not be allowed?

krashmo ,

That's not the take you should come away from this story with. None of them should be allowed to do it.

Salvo ,
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Car company’s have been doing it for decades.
There are legitimate reasoning; theft relevant parts for instance; you don’t want to enable vehicle theft and the “security through obscurity” model did work for a long time. Unfortunately for the manufacturers, most factory security systems are being cracked by locksmiths and vehicle rebirthers.

Another reason is for warranty claims. The manufacturer builds the cars to be the right balance of price, reliability, efficiency and performance. If you modify your vehicles ECU software, the engine may not be as reliable or efficient. If an “unauthorised repairer” changed the programming of the ECU, it can compromise the efficiency and reliability of the vehicle.

There are been plenty of accusations of “planned obsolescence” because a vehicle has died just out of the warranty period, after someone has fucked with the vehicle tuning.

Finally, the other reason, especially for Volume Manufacturers is that their vehicles are sold as a Loss Leader so they can make up the shortfall through aftersales.
Some vehicle importers make deals with governments to lower tariffs on new vehicles, but increase tariffs on genuine parts, like what the Japanese industry and the Australian Government made in the 1980s.

Whether you agree with this logic is irrelevant; this is the reasoning manufacturers use for restricting aftermarket parts and labour.

When a “free-market” Aftermarket Aftersales industry causes the Genuine Aftersales industry to fail, Manufacturers will try to make up any losses through other channels, like requesting government subsidies “for the good of the local industry” or selling telematics data (which just “happens” to have personal user data) to data brokers.

jmbmkn ,

"Whether you agree with this logic is irrelevant; this is the reasoning manufacturers use for restricting aftermarket parts and labour."

Isn't this this the point of this community? To say we don't agree with this reasoning, whether locking people out of repairs is a good business model or not, it's one that some people don't agree with.

MrFappy , in ‘It has officially happened’: Mechanic says he can’t work on your car because they’ve officially been locked out of computer systems

So what I take from this is… don’t buy a new car. Well, since I’ve never owned a car newer than 10 years old, I guess I’m ahead of the game for once.

invertedspear ,

Really only protects you for about ten years. It’s not like they’re suddenly going to become repairable at the 5 or 10 year mark.

Swedneck ,
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thus the actual answer is "move to a place where you don't need a car to live", you don't need to worry about the repairability of public transport vehicles and bikes are trivial to repair.

Thorny_Insight ,

My 17 year old truck has all the features I need from a vehicle. If I can just keep it running I have no desire to upgrade it in the foreseeable future. Even if I had infinite money I'd probably just get one with lower mileage and upgrade it with offroad accessories and stuff. I have basically zero interest in new cars.

huskypenguin , in ‘It has officially happened’: Mechanic says he can’t work on your car because they’ve officially been locked out of computer systems

What car you clickbait bastard?

CaptDust , (edited )

2024 Ram 3500, but it's an industry push from NASTF so probably more will come soon.

mihnt ,
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I knew before I even clicked in it would be some shitbox by Chrysler.

huskypenguin ,

Fuck these guys. If we live in a car society we need to be able to repair cars.

ValenThyme ,

The National Automotive Service Task Force (NASTF) is a 501 C6 not-for-profit organization established in 2000 by Automakers and the independent aftermarket to identify and resolve gaps in Service information, Tool Information and Training.

Iheartcheese ,
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I truly feel this man's righteous anger at my very core.

cyborganism , in ‘It has officially happened’: Mechanic says he can’t work on your car because they’ve officially been locked out of computer systems

Even cars are getting enshitified.

BrikoX OP ,
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They were one of the first to go.

weeeeum ,

I've been advocating right to repair and have been trying to raise the alarm bells to stuff like this. Unfortunately people have been blind to it and keep putting up with this crap.

"Oh I have to go to the ram dealership instead of an independent and pay $10,000 more? Sounds good to me!"

"Oh they track everywhere I drive, the speed I'm driving and also sell it to my insurance so they can increase rates, and advertisers to stalk me? If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear!".

The_Che_Banana ,
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Tractors first, John Deere enshitified them and car companies took note!

BrikoX OP ,
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Obligatory 'Fuck John Deere".

recursive_recursion , in ‘It has officially happened’: Mechanic says he can’t work on your car because they’ve officially been locked out of computer systems
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depending on where the owner lives/resides they might be able to take this to court now for vendor lock-in/right to repair violations

Zachariah , in ‘It has officially happened’: Mechanic says he can’t work on your car because they’ve officially been locked out of computer systems
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The companies don’t want you own your car.

Veraxus ,

Companies don’t want us serfs to own anything.

Swedneck ,
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you will live in a box made of ticky tacky, you will drive a subscription tank, you will eat a "hamburger" maed out of 40% sawdust, you will spend 10% of your life mowing your lawn, and you will think you like it

maculata , in iFixit ends self-repair collaboration with Samsung, because Samsung was not committed to it

Samsung has been leading the charge towards enshittification for many years.

aasatru ,
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A dominant market position will do that to you, it seems.

uis , in Obscure screw added so appliance cannot be disassembled
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I know I have terrible eyesight, but it seems like I opened blind or dyslexic community. Why only few people noticed

I had to cut the casing open in order to discover why I couldn't unscrew the fourth.

Tikiporch ,

Must be your eyesight, my friend. Looks normal to me...

KillingTimeItself , in Obscure screw added so appliance cannot be disassembled

ah yes a classic we call this a flathead, but without the part of the flathead that makes it good at not being a shit screw, but also it's located now so the driver doesn't slip out of the screw, so it's actually kinda better than just a flathead screw, but it probably strips a lot easier than a flathead, since there's a lot less surface area on it. Screw.

edit: there's a lot of people coping on this thread for some reason, bro it's a blender, who cares, it's like 20 dollars, 99% of the population is buying a new one anyway.

uis ,
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1% is buying a new one anyway, 49% repairs blender, 25% dreams of blender and 25% never installed heard of blender.

KillingTimeItself ,

i didn't know there was a repair market for the free open source application of blender, that's cool

tearsintherain ,
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yeah, they're missing the fact it was posted in right to repair maybe.

KillingTimeItself ,

idk how anybody would be missing that. I think people are just being their usual selves.

ysjet , in Obscure screw added so appliance cannot be disassembled

Honestly, if you don't have a set of security bits I would be concerned about you opening up a blender.

KillingTimeItself ,

honestly i'd be concerned about somebody without tools opening a blender. Why are they in there? How did they get in it? And what did the blender do to them?

JayDee , (edited ) in Obscure screw added so appliance cannot be disassembled

That's a flathead with a bead welded in the middle. Source a local dremel, some earplugs and eye pro, and do some quick converting.

Oh wait I think I understand the image. You had to saw the plastic apart to expose the screw. Yeah fuck those dudes. I guess another option would've been to get a cheap screw driver and modify it with a dremel? Either way, fuck Kenmore.

uis ,
@uis@lemm.ee avatar

Oh wait it think I understand the image. You had to saw the plastic apart to expose the screw. Yeah fuck those dudes. I guess another option would've been to get a cheap screw driver and modify it with a dremel? Either way, fuck Kenmore.

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