stoneparchment

stoneparchment , 9 days ago (edited 9 days ago)

The fact this has 40 up votes right now makes me feel like lemmy is losing a diverse user base. Like, where are the women to down vote this obviously shitty take?

Let's list some reasons why these women could have done this that aren't "women are sluts for clown daddies":

• he's their boss, and leveraging his insane power over them to make it hard to say no and keep their job
• he's just an extremely powerful man and they're afraid of pissing him off
• they have insecurities, (like the "loser cuck" fallacy!) that they aren't valuable or desirable as partners, and attention from someone as powerful as him feels like affirmation of their value even if they don't like him or he treats them badly
• they understand that, by not resisting his advances, they might be able to provide themselves a link to a financial source that could support them and a child
• he literally sexually harasses, assaults, or rapes them and they don't feel like they can criminally pursue one of the richest men in the world

Like, yeah, some of them might be individuals who have bad taste in men or are shitty people themselves. I'm even certain that some of them are! But damn, can we take the perspective of the woman for one second? It's not a good look to find yourself agreeing with incels on the internet

stoneparchment , 9 days ago

Sure, notice that I included this possibility in the last paragraph.

Also notice that that possibility doesn't reinforce the perspective that "women are sluts for clown daddies"

stoneparchment , 9 days ago

Aight you got me there

I, too, am down to clown tbh

stoneparchment , 9 days ago

That's a good (and reassuring) observation!

Still, even if it's a bot/troll/etc. post, if we don't call it out when we see it, the culture of the community slowly shifts towards "bigotry is acceptable here"...

I'm gonna keep pointing this stuff out when I see it whether the user is acting in good faith or not :)

stoneparchment , 1 month ago

I feel like this is true if the reader is meant to have the perspective of the person who feels that something is magic (the Hobbits, in the example from your video). However, not all magic in fiction is like this, and sometimes the reader is supposed to mostly have the perspective of Galadriel, or to gain her perspective over time.

An example is Lev Grossman's The Magicians. The reader has the perspective of the Hobbits at first, because that is the perspective of the main character. But the story has themes of "lifting the veil" of magic, and by the end both the main character and the reader have a more similar perspective to Galadriel.

I guess what I mean is, I agree with you and the video's author in large part... but like... to broadly say that magic "should" be used in literature in a certain way ignores how it can be used in different ways to great effect!