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spujb OP , to Fediverse in PSA for reporting best practices

honestly might just change the and to or

should fix it 👍 ty

spujb OP , to Fediverse in PSA for reporting best practices

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spujb OP , to Fediverse in Mods, what tips or etiquette do you recommend for reporting?

Okay already glad I made this post as I have definitely erred in this regard several times!

spujb OP , to memes in obligatory bear post

Rape culture means that women who survive SA often have to go through a hellish psychosocial process wherein they must convince cops, judges, juries, friends and family that they were not "asking for it."

This is not me talking, this is something that has been expressed to me by multiple individuals. That they would rather undergo horrific mutilation by an animal than deal with that process.

I encourage you not to laugh, but to actually self-interrogate what this means. Because so far you have only expressed that you do not, in fact, understand.

spujb OP , to memes in obligatory bear post

This is where you should probably pause and listen to the reasoning they are giving. Here is one:

Reasons varied from “The worst the bear will do is kill me,” to “At least I know the bear wants to kill me,” with a general theme seeming to be that whatever tangible threat the bear posed was preferable to the uncertainty of wondering whether or not a random man would assault them.

spujb OP , to memes in obligatory bear post

I mean something can not be intended as bait, but still be bait, you know?

No. What you are doing here is silencing the experiences of women, whether intentional or not. Be so very careful friend. Listen to women, and just move on if you don't have the emotional bandwidth for it. There is no excuse for tone policing the expression of people who have been violently attacked.

spujb OP , (edited ) to memes in obligatory bear post

The initial expression of the poll regarding the bear hypothetical was categorically not intended as bait, but rather a sincere reflection of women's lived experiences.

The further out from the onset of the trend we get, yes, I agree with being more critical of those using this meme to get a rage reaction. However, while it is not the perfect rhetorical feminist meme, it is crucial to ensure that women are not silenced or even asked to soften their language when they speak out against sexual assault and rape culture.

spujb OP , (edited ) to memes in obligatory bear post
  1. trans women are women
  2. i have personally seen women getting harassed into deleting their comments and even accounts for expressing their lived experience under patriarchy. men literally came into their replies and brigaded them until they were forced to leave. so you are either misinformed or intentionally lying.
spujb OP , to memes in obligatory bear post

Funny, but don’t ever forget the movement.

Awareness and advocacy may seem pointless until it precipitates in holding the oppressors accountable. Next time, hopefully, it will be even more significant.

spujb OP , to memes in obligatory bear post

Some of this is starting to get beyond my rhetorical capacity so I won’t pretend to have answers for your questions here, I apologize.

Maybe other commenters can give you satisfactory answers, but in the meantime I’ll refer you to this book by bell hooks (free PDF). Should get you 99.9% of the way there. :)

spujb OP , to memes in nuanceposting

POST RESTORED THABK YOU MODS

spujb OP , to memes in obligatory bear post

No that’s kind of the opposite of the point I was making. The patriarchy is only one of all those systems of oppression that I listed.

There is a lot of crossover, yes, but I am not equivocating any of those. They are generally distinct.

spujb OP , to memes in obligatory bear post

For sure! many such cases on the internet ❤️ have a good one

spujb OP , to memes in obligatory bear post

Good question!

Handling this question is tricky, but I'll give it a shot with some examples. It's worth noting that there's often overlap between different systems, where those in power in one area also benefit disproportionately in others. (This concept is a key part of intersectionality theory.)

  • White supremacy/racism
  • Capitalism/exploitation
  • Imperialism/colonialism
  • Ableism
  • Heteronormativity/homophobia/transphobia
spujb OP , to memes in obligatory bear post

Wonder if some women abusing men is patriarchy.

Often true, yes.

Or if some women shaming men for not being masculine enough is patriarchy.

Very often true, yes.

Or if some women asking for some sort of benefits over men is patriarchy.

I don’t know what you are referencing but probably?

If yes, the scope of "patriarchy" is so damn wide any reference to men (as in "patri-") would be fair to be removed, and then we'd talk about antisexism in general.

You are absolutely free to do this. :)

Besides, can we truly talk for the case of patriarchy when the oppression comes from previous generations of men leading to issues of currently living ones? Current men are often oppressed by those measures, not empowered, and that contradicts the very notion of it.

You are definitely in the right here! And these stories are often underrepresented in feminist/antisexist spaces. There is a community for this if you were interested: !mensliberation

I'm always a bit confused by this desire of women to put entire antisexism movement under the feminism umbrella no matter what.

I think it’s more of a tradition thing than anything. As in, feminism being the first antisexist theory, all other antisexist theories will find their historical roots in what feminists first described. But a valid insight.

Why is it so important? What causes this desire for women alone to lead the way? Is it some sort of power struggle, fear of men stealing the topic and pushing another agenda?

No, and this is where I encourage you to be careful. You are reading far too much into a name. See above again for what I believe is more of an occams razor explanation.

We are here, and we recognize the issues of men and, to the extent we can, the issues of women. Let us fight our fight without trying to make it about women. We talk about men, and would be happy to have a community of both men and women to solve what can't be solved on one side.

Fully agree! I wish you the best in this and I’ll be there alongside you. ❤️

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