qwerty ,

And?

frostmore ,

not a big fan of trump,he's unhinged.

giving far right forums an avenue to voice their opinions isn't a bad thing,this is what freedom of speech and expression are...unless it's hate speech,then it should be banned.

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

How do you think they're not hate speech?

frostmore ,

as compared to the far left??

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

Far left; everyone should have health care.

Far right; gay people should die.

You have been bitten by the conservative propaganda bug and probably deeply fear antifa.

Aux ,

Far left: everyone should die.

Far right: everyone should die.

FIFY.

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

Sure. LOL..

ilinamorato ,

Show me any mainstream proof of your characterization of the far left viewpoint. At all.

Aux ,

Stalin and Mao were pretty mainstream.

ilinamorato ,

Ok, two authoritarian leaders the modern left finds pretty abhorrent and regularly repudiates. You might as well say that Lincoln represents the modern right if you're going that way.

You know what I meant. A modern, mainstream leftist—think Bernie or AOC, or leftwards—calling for mass murder or policies that would plainly result in mass murder.

Aux ,

I mean Biden supports Israeli genocide... Or is he a conservative these days? Can't keep up with imaginary American bullshit.

ilinamorato ,

Non sequiturs are not answers to the question I asked. Biden is not left of Bernie or AOC.

Aux ,

You're like this meme where lefties enemy number one is another lefty (: Everyone is wrong but you. Of course.

ilinamorato ,

Who said that? I asked you to explain your position. I never said anyone was bad.

Aux ,

You in a previous comment.

ilinamorato ,

Prove it. But first, answer my question. Trying to divert the conversation won't disguise the fact that you're making false equivalences based upon nothing.

Aux ,

Prove what? You're talking bull shit and just wiggling your way around, lol. Grow up.

ilinamorato ,

Prove...anything, honestly. Prove that I called anyone bad (I didn't, in any comment). Prove that there are mainstream leftists currently advocating for mass murder. Prove that you're not just making up everything you're saying based on "feels." Grow up? I'm not the one pretending that my opinions are more important than the facts.

Aux ,

You're constantly contradicting yourself and shifting the goalposts. Grow up.

ilinamorato ,

How can I have contradicted myself when I haven't made a single assertion? I've literally only been asking you to explain your statement.

Aux ,

Read the thread.

ilinamorato ,

Yeah, I have been. That's why I'm saying what I'm saying.

Do you think I'm someone else?

Aux ,

Read the thread.

ilinamorato ,

Bro, obviously I have no idea what you're talking about. So either give me a link or shut up in an acknowledgement that you're trying to get me to admit something and you actually have no argument.

frostmore ,

nah,i am in the middle.

everyone should have healthcare and roe vs wade should never be overturned.

what isn't ok is when you brand someone a phobe of convenience should they disagree with you,just like the far left and right.

BonesOfTheMoon OP ,
Fedizen ,

the donald was only ever banned for hate speech

breadsmasher ,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

freedom of speech

yet another complete misunderstanding of what this actually means

frostmore ,

freedom of speech doesn't include hate speech,i did make that clear.

yet another case of bad reading comprehension.

Lovstuhagen ,

Nah man freedom of speech includes hate speech.

If "hate speech" must be banned, why even have a democracy..?

You have to have faith in the ability of people to discern right from wrong, and the very first test of that is whether people are going to be mentally hijacked by some guy saying the N word.

If you believe people can't do that... Why vote? You just support soft totalitarianism.

slazer2au ,

Hosting an app is a weird phrase. Hosting implies they are delivering content when they are only delivering an app, the content is hosted elsewhere.

Doesntpostmuch ,

I dont give a shit if they are holed up somewhere isolated. I just dont want to be inundated with shitty rightwing memes like I was in 2015.

doodledup ,

No realizing that they could just move to Lemmy.

DigitalNirvana ,

Thank goodness!

doodledup ,

You don't have to agree with them. That is the great thing about Lemmy. Lemmy is what the Internet used to be. A free and decentralized place. You should embrace that they use Lemmy.

magiccupcake ,

Sounds like something a nazi would say.

And if they wanted their own little naziverse on the fediverse nobody could stop them, but compared to every other social media platform most of lemmy deplatformed and banned nazis, while they get privileged status on Facebook or Twitter.

doodledup ,

This sounds like something a left extremist terrorist would say...

YarHarSuperstar ,
@YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world avatar

Seriously? Hyperbole much?

barsquid ,

Not wanting to interact with Nazis is left-wing extremist terrorism?

doodledup ,

Obviously. Of course. Just as welcoming a free and democratic internet and voting for Lemmy to be what it's intended to be makes me a Hitler-loving racist. Makes sense to me.

You guys need to relax and don't immediately turn every discussion into "you're a piece of shit".

Eggyhead ,

You guys need to relax and don't immediately turn every discussion into "you're a piece of shit".

I find this is more common on Lemmy than people care to admit. I come here to interact with communities of enthusiasts and end up depressed about life.

Alice ,
@Alice@hilariouschaos.com avatar

💯👌

Alice ,
@Alice@hilariouschaos.com avatar

Why don't you just talk shit to them though ? That's what I don't get about y'all.

Man, sometimes on the fediverse, not lemmy like on mastodon type instance, I'll see some vile shit being said by ppl who clearly fucking hate whoever it is they're vocally hating.

I just call them out in a visceral way. I tell them that they are just a little bitch. And to go say what they are saying to X group while recording it in public and to post it afterwards.

I then tell them I know they won't because they are nothing but an ignorant pussy talking shit online and know they'll get their ass whipped for saying that shit to someone's face for real.

Because it's true. They're only saying shit like that online because they know they're safe from confrontation.

Unless...

I see that shit. And I keep fucking going until they eventually stop fucking posting.

I will not let up. You wanna talk like that? Then imma fuck u up lol

Basically, y'all need to do that. You wanna be unpleasant? Then that's what u get. You are teaching them that if they continue to talk that way online, they'll have nothing but ppl going after them and they won't do it anymore because people are dog piling them.

The defederate banning whatever y'all do just to me comes off that y'all are to afraid of them or something. If they're being openly racist you should openly run them off by calling them out for what they are.

But really what this all really is

Is a fake 'solution' to get rid of literally every one who just disagrees with your politics. That's the truth. You call everyone a racist if they say anything that doesn't agree with leftists that's all.

Someone could say "I like trump" and boom that's all it takes. Or "I'm pro life" boom again

Yall are dishonest it shows to everyone who isn't a fool

Natanael ,

Because one or two trolls can be mocked, a whole instance will always only be trouble not worth the effort.

Colour_me_triggered ,

You can mock an entire instance I've done it plenty of times with hexbear.

Natanael ,

Or instance admins can block and save their users the hassle

barsquid ,

I was wondering why you wrote a whole-ass essay about why you want to interact with Nazis so bad. From your comment history I can see you are a literal child.

Alice ,
@Alice@hilariouschaos.com avatar

Oh my God. Just cause you're a coward and can't call ppl out for being shitty, doesn't mean I want to talk nazis.

You run in the face of danger, I beat the shit out if it. How's being passive aggressive because you can't handle shit in real life working out for you ?

Geeze laweeze

barsquid ,

Yeah only a 13-year-old would think they're beating the shit out of anything via the internet. Meanwhile you are in some sort of "shittyask" community, "what if there were ummm farts and also butts? Hehe."

Alice ,
@Alice@hilariouschaos.com avatar

👌💯

carotte ,
@carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

how about embracing their existence on the fediverse by defederating their ass into oblivion?

doodledup ,

You have the option to do that.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

Truth social is just mastodon. I'd be surprised if there weren't more like that.

magiccupcake ,

Oh they tried, they got banned and any instance they spun up got defederated.

Turns out they don't like just each other very much. And those instances did not grow on their own.

cabron_offsets ,

They’d get downvoted to oblivion.

palordrolap ,

I thought they already had Truth Social and considerable chunks of Xitter and Faceberk. What's new or different about this, specifically?

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