iAvicenna ,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

good to know that people with the mental age of college kids are running the US of Muricah

RizzRustbolt ,

The old "Water-me-do".

Starkstruck ,

These people are not okay

ZombiFrancis ,

One of my good friends was raised Republican and actually worked for the California Republican Party until he finally got so fed up with their shit he finally rejected politics overall and started homesteading. (I.e. when he broke ties with his freakshow parents.)

From his time there he would describe the insane shit he experienced. Like the local party leader had an unwritten rule for all meetings: the water pitcher on his table always had to be the most full out of anyone else in the room.

The GOP is weird man.

arin ,

Lmfao that sounds so fucking Trump

Tja ,

I would bring a bottle of water to refill my own pitcher.

secretlyaddictedtolinux , (edited )

this epitomizes all Republicans

they are just a panoply of mean, nasty people who are either religiously deluded into ignorance or avariciously salivating over class oppression or some combination thereof

gaslighting a colleague is no different than what all republicans do to transgenders every single day. i hope they all live long enough for tribunals to round these republicans up and try them for their crimes against transgenders after the constitution is changed to allow ex post facto laws for the limited purpose of fucking these assholes over for all the shit they are doing now to the trans community. the same hate they have towards transgenders we should all have towards these shitheads and ultimately, we the people write the laws and have a living constitution and should fuck these people over as hard as possible in the most lawful way possible about 20 years from now when the religious senior citizens who protect them with their religious delusions die off.

the only beneficent quality of republicans is supporting the NRA, which really should be a non-partisan issue since citizens need to be armed in case of tyranny

in the french revolution, moronic greedy oppressors were efficiently removed from power after the lower classes were pushed more and more into misery. luckily, unlike in france back then, we can vote greedy vile idiots out of office

unfortunately, we're going to have to wait for the deluded religious morons to naturally reduce in numbers by dying off to get rid of these fucks, since older people are more religious and easily deceived into voting for terrible politicians

phoenixz ,

With all you're saying, you also say the NRA is good because of the same reasons Republicans state?

Mental gymnastics for sure

vonbaronhans ,

On the one hand, if the people are armed, the government should theoretically fear the people and want to keep them happy.

But even with millions of armed citizens, nobody is even close to putting up a fight against the US. And they know that. And they keep shitting on you because they know you ain't doing shit about it.

And then you look at the countries that are more democratically reflective of the will of the people... and they have strong gun regulations. It's almost like maybe governments that at least work even a little don't need the fear of popular revolution to keep them in check.

Anamnesis ,

Yeah, the reason for owning guns isn't to protect against the government's tyranny, it's to help half the country's military fight the other half of the country's military in some (hopefully still theoretical) civil war.

phoenixz ,

Do you really think that the US army is even remotely impressed by the armed citizens? If need be, they stop on top of them and it's done.

To add to that, all those armed citizens that will protect us from tyranny are supporting the tyrant, it's facepalm worthy, really

secretlyaddictedtolinux ,

If Republicans like apples, should I stop eating those?

Drivebyhaiku ,

Small nomenclature heads up "Transgenders" is a common conservative dogwhistle. In correct use trans and cis or transgender and cisgender are adjectives , it's always paired with a noun. For example "Transgender people" , "trans woman" , "trans man". It's like the rules for the racial term "black". Drcently cool to use as an adjective but when you hear someone nounify it to "the blacks" it leaves a certain impression.

The space between the words is actually important as well. In the UK changing the adjective into a noun by removing the space is used by TERF groups when they operate in more public discourse to signal to each other they imply that they aren't talking about a specific type of man or woman but a distinct second category. As in "That's not a man, That's a transman™.

It's not a huge deal, nobody's offended or anything, the post body is obviously trans supportive so nobody is gunna think you are repping the anti-trans agenda or anything but I figure it's something you'd probably want to know? I am not intending to be pedantic just sorta handily educational.

Hadriscus ,

not OP but it's good to know thanks

Drivebyhaiku ,

How the absolute hell... During the reply section the correct comment was featured and I swore I double checked... Jerboa, why dost thou forsaketh me?!

Sorry stranger. Keep on being awesome.

Hadriscus ,

no I'm saying I'm not the person you replied to but still want to voice my appreciation for learning this bit about the preferred nomenclature

Drivebyhaiku ,

Oh good! I accidentally replied to the wrong person a couple days ago and had a moment of wondering if maybe my app was fritzed.

secretlyaddictedtolinux , (edited )

I sort of understand your perspective.

I also hate cultural conservatives enough that if they want to make homosexual or transgenders pejorative, I want to use those words with positive connotations. I am aware of the negative connotations of certain words about the LGBT community (and other words that have turned pejorative that originally weren't) and am really against changing the words society uses because a word that denotes something starts to have a connotation because of idiots. The problem with changing to a different phrase is the new phrase is going to eventually get the same connotations by the same idiots.

As someone who has literally been fucked over by members of the transgender community more than once, why do I have to let religious right-wing republicans make words into bad things or apologize for using words in a way that is literal?

I feel like instead of objecting to nuances of dog whistle language, we need to be more direct in calling out delusional religious fuckwads for their absence of logic and advocate to find ways to inflict severe economic pain and other types of societally-permissable pain on them instead of trying to reach understanding or change people's views. Eventually, since more people have access to knowledge through the Internet, the religious generations of yore will die and most new generations will stop believing religious bullshit since they have access to actual information that isn't total garbage.

Drivebyhaiku , (edited )

The thing about that... Is that whether or not something registers as cool or not generally needs to come from the group. As an example you could try to "take back" an n-slur from bigoted use ... but if that initiative isn't coming from the community to whom that term is levied you are basically just using an n-slur because you believe yourself entitled to use the slur for your own personal reasons.

It's not just about sticking it to the Conservatives, it's about listening to the why that comes from a community that is often talked about rather than talked directly to... At best trans people who hear you are going to think you are out completely of touch like people who pronounce pokemon like "Poh-key-man"... Or that you cannot be counted on to listen, that you are a different kind if problem and you are someone to hide from being openly trans around if they can because it's ultimately safer than rolling the dice against whether you are a transphobe or not. Places (for example a work place) where terms like "transgenders" is openly used without challenge from other people is a message to us that that community is either not safe or at least very very ignorant... And that self advocating in that environment is going to be an uphill struggle of dealing with people who are convinced they know what's best for us more than we do...

secretlyaddictedtolinux ,

I suppose you are right, but I just hate it

I want to live in a world where I can say "look, it's a pack of transgenders" and point to a group of trans people like it's exciting and cool, i just think, why can't transgender people be seen as so cool and interesting and fun that this doesn't matter?

can't tonality matter?

there's this 7 foot tall transgender black woman that shops in the same store as me and i never talk to her and always want to take photos of her because she's interesting to look at. but i never say anything. she's probably not 7 feet tall. she looks 7 feet tall. she seems so cool. i've never said anything to her because i don't know if she'd want to talk to me. i'm just a weird introvert who likes linux

i feel like it's so easy to be offensive in this world that tone and context should matter more, but at the same time, you're not actually putting me on blast or seeming that offended. im just being inflexible and hate being wrong. and we live in a world with a lot of religious shitheads who haven't died out yet and so i don't want to seem like one of those people i guess. also, it's not called Poh Key Man? How do you say it then? alright, i'll try to stop saying the term in the republican way: trans people

did i do it right?

Drivebyhaiku ,

Yes you did do it right, lol...and pokemon is pronounced Po- kay (or like Quay) and the same mon as in monster.

And I absolutely don't intend to put you on blast. It's just you can kind of look at language as a kind of technology. That tech can be used to spot minute differences to inform people of a lot of things... Trans people often have to live a little bit like spies in high risk situations so dogwhistles can actually be helpful technology to us assess an environment and risks. Muddying the water can actually make things harder.

Like I for instance pass mostly as a cis person... though not in the way I would hope for. I am not physically transitioning for partner related reasons so while a lot of people can suspect I am some kind of queer they often falsely assume my gender and pronouns based on my body.

Because I am always working with new people I basically take mental hits every all day at work that other people are entirely unaware of. It tends to absolutely wreck my self esteem and makes me feel really isolated...But it's sometimes safer than being "out". People who make a mistake because they don't know are trans are a lot easier to deal with then people who know and aren't adapting well. Like when someone is making a bunch of mistakes with my pronouns it brings way more attention to the fact their brains do not register me as my gender and they are undertaking an artificial process. When they undergo that process I have to work a little harder to teach, and let them know that I am okay, that I understand, reassure them they are doing fine... It takes a lot out of me to do. EVERYONE fucks up pronoun changes. Coming out and getting people used to me is work that I am gunna be doing over and over and over. If I am gunna have to do that I am gunna pick candidates who I know will be worth the personal effort of onboarding or who make my job easier who already have the playbook down and just haven't put it into practice.

Currently I am out selectively only to people I judge as safe. How I judge rather people are safe are not is by how they comport themselves. What sort of language they use, how attentive they are when I use they/them pronouns when referring to friends of mine when trading stories, how they react to different conversational topics, what do they find funny and how willing they are to defer to someone else's needs... It could be veganism, or a religious practice done for comfort or making adjustments for a person with a disability, if you show that you are willing to make concessions or small behavioural changes because you value other people's comfort that's a MAJOR green flag.

It sucks but I am literally running an active risk assessment of everyone I meet in a professional setting. I do this because even if they aren't actively bigoted they can make my life a hell.

I had a boss who just wanted to debate trans talking points all the time while we could not leave our posts and I lived in constant fear he'd figure me out... because becoming his personal entrapped ambassador for a community he had zero understanding of was going to add way more patience and effort just to get through my day than any of my coworkers would be required to muster. I would likely lose my job because even if he was not intentionally mean dealing with being the subject of his intensified curiosity and questions that are generally invasive would drive me to either need to leave or do something that would get me fired.

We trans folk are generally skittish of folk who take a little too much interest in us because of our transness. It's can be a lot of work to just get people to calm down, not be self conscious around us like you're scared doing of something wrong and not treat us as special. Just making us feel like comfortably normal people doing regular people things is a wonderful gift. In the case of your store based acquaintance it's generally safer to like compliment her clothes or jewelry or something. It's like saying "I think you're cool" without making her feel self conscious that people are staring at aspects herself that trigger that fear of being observed as something abnormal.

So if it helps think of the adaptation as learning to speak trans safety code. If you are saying "trans people" in an office full of co-workers who use "transgenders" you are using language technology to fly your green flag in a sea of ambiguously checkered red. We'll spot you.

HelixDab2 , (edited )

the only beneficent quality of republicans is supporting the NRA,

Look, I like guns far, far more than most people, but I draw the line at the NRA, and Wayne LaPierre's suit-fetish. Most people that work on 2A issues at a local level will tell you that the NRA will swoop in after a deal has already been made, and fuck everything up. If you look at the history of Heller v. D.C., you'll find that the NRA tried to kill the suit before it even got off the ground, because they were afraid it would hurt their funding.

If you want to support 2A causes, the Firearms Policy Coalition is on of the few right now that's both effective, and appears to avoid other 'culture wars' (e.g., "anti-wokeism") nonsense. At a non-policy level, the various John Brown Gun Clubs are doing good work, the Liberal Gun Club is helping create a space for people that are both pro-gun and generally identify as left of center, and the SRA is pretty okay once you get past the tankies.

secretlyaddictedtolinux ,

there's a war on guns with anti-gun zealots trying to take away rights little by little by little...

it is a slippery slope to the hell of tyranny

you should be grateful for the hard work the supporters and members of the NRA that are only trying to prevent the US from descending into a totalitarian monstrosity in which people's only choice is how low to bow

HelixDab2 ,

The NRA hasn't done jack shit in decades. As I said, the NRA did their level best to kill Heller v. D.C. before it even got off the ground, and that was the single most important 2A win in the last 50 years.

Don't give me that bullshit about them being the line between the US and tyranny, when they won't even speak up against tyranny when cops murder legally armed citizens.

secretlyaddictedtolinux ,

You are confusing actual results with people being on the right side of a conflict.

The NRA, even if it is an incompetent worthless organization as you suggest, at least is trying to stop the slippery slope towards a society of people who kneel to the wishes of the new king.

The corruption of police does not mean an excuse to de-arm the populace so they can be lose their freedoms to authoritarianism and the NRA supporting guns in every context, even ones that seemingly are awful, doesn't mean that they are awful. Perhaps the NRA supports cops doing awful things because they don't want to lose a large pillar of support.

Instead of criticizing the very people who are preventing society from crumbling into a new technocratic kingship, what about thanking them? What about saying "thanks NRA for encouraging the world to be filled with guns?"

Only those ignorant of history (and to be clear, I am not implying this is you, I am explicitly saying this is you) are against the NRA and it's wish to prevent the world from going to pre-democratic times in which only the king decided who should have arms.

HelixDab2 ,

You are confusing actual results with people being on the right side of a conflict.

No, I'm not. The NRA is not on the right side; they're on the side of authoritarians. They're on the side of the boot that is kicking you in the face. They're on the side of the cops that will be the ones disarming people, and on the side of the christian nationalists that want to take guns from everyone but white evangelical christians. The NRA does not believe that the second amendment exists for ALL people, regardless of race, religion, age, disability, sex, gender identity, or sexual orientation, and they've never even tried to really conceal that. That's why they are silent when someone like Filandro Castile is murdered by a cop.

When the NRA fixes it's own shit so that, as an organization, they truly believe that 2A rights exist for everyone, and are willing to treat the disarming of any group as a crime, then we can talk. But that's not who they are now, and it's not likely that this is who they will be at any time in the future, since they've made it nearly impossible for grassroots change to happen within the org.

phoenixz ,

Yeah you are a right wing type.

War on guns and muh rights and tyranny, it's all right wing talking points.

No-one is "waging a war against guns", it's a bullshit argument, just like "guns are needed against tyranny"

What people want is sane gun laws, so that -for example- crazies that want to shoot up schools and such, can't get their hands on them. I'll assume you disagree there and you enjoy school shootings and would want to arm teachers because nothing is better than a gun fight in a school hallway, right?

You've never noticed that the gun violence as it is is a uniquely US problem? Doesn't happen anywhere else in the world at that insane level. Yeah, each country once in a decade or damn near century might experience a mass shooting, the US experiences those at about once a day. The US is also unique in its gun laws that they want as many guns for people as possible. It totally has nothing to do with gun makers having politicians int heir pockets, mixed with people like you who are Brainwashed into actually believing you need guns to protect against the US armed forces

I'm literally laughing while writing this, because you peope actually believe that a) you'd stand a chance to survive even a minute, and b) you'd actually fight tyranny. Trump literally is claiming multiple times he'll install himself as a dictator, and his gun loving followers not only love him for it, they just go in and claim democracy is bad.

All US gun laws have done is cause suffering and death, and yes, guns and ammo should be heavily restricted. That would make your country liveable instead of it being the hell hole it currently is.

Pra ,

Lol

Link

KillingTimeItself ,

man if this is the only fucking thing republicans did i might actually think they were funny.

niktemadur ,

Imagine how barren and bland the inner lives of these people must be.
It works like a cautionary tale. One of them "there but for the grace of God go I" type of deals.

cybersandwich ,

“I guess I would have to say yes in the spirit of forgiveness, reluctantly. But if I had to be a smartass, I’d say her apology holds about as much water as my canvas bag.”

Lol

ryannathans ,

How the fuck is this shit newsworthy

intensely_human ,

It’s a US Congressperson engaging in gaslighting another US Congressperson. This is extremely fucked up.

BonesOfTheMoon ,

They've known each other since childhood. He grew up and she's jealous she didn't I guess. All Republicans are trash.

explodicle ,

The Republican representative, Mary Morrissey, 67, confessed to dumping water in the bag

Just to make it crystal clear that this woman is, in fact, an adult.

Lommy241 ,

In the same sense that an 18 year old highschooler is.

Burn_The_Right ,

Except most highschoolers aren't bigoted fascist cockroaches.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Isn't there a requirement for mental sanity among elected officials? (in the medical sense) Because can't this easily be constructed as a sure sign that she suffers from dementia? Or well, her colleagues do?

isles ,

You can be petty as fuck without having dementia.

explodicle ,

Also I don't think there is such a requirement, since most of them have an imaginary friend.

Doof , (edited )

Huge leap there buddy

Treczoks ,

Just to make it crystal clear that this woman is, in fact, an adult.

At least on paper.

Xtallll ,
@Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This is some highschool mean girls shit.

Yawweee877h444 ,

Nah. Junior high at best, seems closer to elementary school though to me.

TheLowestStone ,
@TheLowestStone@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, if this was highschool she'd be going down on his crush when she knew he'd walk in on them.

intensely_human ,

Man I should have gone to your high school

InternetUser2012 ,

Once again, another republikkklown doing something ILLEGAL. This CUNT needs to resign and face the courts for this shit.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

Jesus, is every single Republican lawmaker a complete piece of shit these days? I've often felt like the party that is all about tax cuts for the rich and making sure no one gets a handout attracts a disproportionate number of terrible human beings, but once upon a time I felt like a lot of them were decent, wrong-headed people. Now I'm not sure I can name a single Republican who seems like a decent human being. Maybe Liz Chaney is mostly there? So many are like cartoon villains.

zaph ,
@zaph@sh.itjust.works avatar

It's pretty hard to be a good person while denying the working class medical benefits.

Zahille7 ,

Or a living wage, or a decent education.

madeinthebackseat ,

At their core, many are just bullies and it nicely appeals to the emotionally stunted desires of their base.

I recently watched a Nazi documentary on Netflix, and the parallels beyond concerning. If Trump is elected, you should expect Brown Shirt like violence.

For those who think my statement is alarmist, it takes time for fascist propaganda to build inertia, and we're somewhere in the middle of the progression. If you're paying attention, you can see and hear the rhetoric getting more violent. They are following a similar playbook to the Nazis by stimulating the rural communities with more and more nationalist rhetoric.

AFKBRBChocolate ,

It's not at all a surprise that some of the earliest MAGA alarmists were Holocaust survivors

someguy3 ,

it takes time for fascist propaganda to build inertia

Very much so and that's one of the great lessons of the last 8 years. Yet we still have people saying "it hasn't happened yet".

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