Building infrastructure is never easy. San Francisco's experience could aid in teaching other cities how it's done. If there's an easier method, then it could be used, but hills obviously aren't that big of a problem.
@thefrankring A lot of people in my city carry goods constantly on cargo bikes. A lot of people have taxi-bikes with which they carry people. Even though we have constant heavy rains.
Not because they're forced to, but because we have good bike infrastructure.
We're gonna Make America Great Again by making sure every kid has plenty of coworkers. That way they can all pool their resources to help pay eachother's medical expenses.
They, and also this meme, make the mistake of equating fewer cars with no cars.
Cars can and do access pedestrians places, but when doing so reduce speed to a crawl. They can and do do this in order to pick up or drop off large objects, or when transporting the disabled.
The same way pedestrians can use roads, cars can access pedestrians places as long as they are built wide enough, when needed.
No part of building primarily for pedestrians use requires that cars never be used, it simply means you build based on the fact that the vast majority of the time, they aren't needed. And that as such, they should be a secondary, not the primary, consideration.
i don't really know the general consensus around here but my take is that vehicles are massively useful tools but that personalized vehicles are causing and have caused massive problems. the vast majority of people don't need them (if public transportation wasn't terrible) but i wouldn't expect firefighters to take the bus down to a burning house for example
You can't really have a firetruck train unless you build every single building within spitting distance of the train station and you can strap the firefighting equipment to a bike.
There are reasonable solutions to this question but this meme does not provide any of them.
This feels more like a parody of a fuckcars poster.
IMO the meme is mocking those who think vehicles are only car-shaped objects, in light of cities imposing restrictions on personal motor vehicle use in built up areas
I doubt it has anything to do with emergency services being restricted to the vehicles shown lol...
I agree, emergency vehicles could still service a lot of pedestrian and cycle access areas if they are designed for it. Many pedestrian areas even allow delivery vehicles in at slow speeds to some businesses and vehicles for garbage, trailers for renovations and other access could be permited as needed.
Things like renovating a roof or delivering an industrial fridge to a restaurant often still require truck access, we just aren't gonna let everyone drive a truck to the front door just to buy a dozen cookies.
In that case the meme is just incoherent. Top part is entirely unrelated to the bottom and the title in unrelated to the meme. It's just bright colors on a screen at that point.
It’s a parody if you’re so defensive you misunderstand the difference between a personal vehicle and a firetruck, I suppose.
When the big street near me turns pedestrian there’s always bollard access for delivery vehicles to all the shops. They aren’t the huge, permanent kind but the sorta that a firetruck or ambulance could absolutely plow right through. Traffic going perpendicular is slow enough that they don’t need to be there for safety so it works super well.
Basically every argument against the idea that maybe cars don’t need to be on every single street requires an astounding level of ignorance and an equal amount of desire to not change that lack of knowledge. Just let it happen, it’s ok.
Emergency vehicles are clearly mentioned in the top text, that person just misunderstood it and now can't take the L and they're throwing around the R-slur whilst accusing other people of resorting to base insults.
Seeing a firetruck or ambulance go down an nyc street at 5 miles an hour is disgusting. If it were a wide foot/bike path and an alert system installed, pedestrians and bike riders would be able to clear the way faster than the oversized svu carrying two people.
