TheRaven ,
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This should be for everyone. If we really want to cut omissions, reduce traffic, spend less on infrastructure, and make more walkable cities, we should tax cars more and use the funds to pay for free transit for all.

Poutinetown ,

Is there any country that has fully free transit?

Also a lot of people are using drugs, sleeping on the stairs path, and using chairs as bathrooms. Making it free would likely make it much easier to disrupt daily commuters.

Poutinetown ,

Wow getting downvoted heavily. Looks like a lot of people either never took the subway in a big city or think that making it free would somehow not make access to the subway easier for disrupters?

Honestly the budget would be better used to subsidize transport for disabled people, increase budget for food banks, or build more shelters. I don't feel our taxes should subsidize Ms. 100k/yr living in downtown Toronto or Mr. 800k home living in kitsilano to give them free transportation, unless all of the above are being properly addressed.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

iirc NYC was spending more on enforcement of fares than the amount they were gaining by enforcing fares.

It just makes sense in every way to open the doors to all

TheRaven ,
@TheRaven@lemmy.ca avatar

They found the same with library fines. The amounts weren’t deterring people from not returning their books. People generally return books. The issue was that those who were hit with fines either paid them off or couldn’t. And those who couldn’t, usually needed the books more than anyone. The same can be said with public transit.

If we really want to be a functioning economy where people can afford to both live and work, giving people a reliable, affordable means of transportation is one of the first steps.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

I really liked the busses in Seattle. They ran on a grid, came every few minutes, and were free

kent_eh ,

Based on the experience in my city, predictable and reliable service would go a long way toward more people using the bus.

As would routing/scheduling that gets people where they want to go without it taking 3x the time a car trip would take.

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