billiam0202 ,

Wait, a system where the government provides a service subsidized by taxes, and where if the citizens don't like it they can get a private option, and the existence of the government option would force the private options to be innovative and competitive if they wanted to continue existing?

Man, what a healthy approach to industry. I wonder in what other ways we could carefully apply this method?

LodeMike ,

Trains :))

ripcord ,
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Planes!

KairuByte ,
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Automobiles!

shadow ,

Health!

themurphy ,

And insurance, honestly.

Toes ,
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Ideally the internet would be provided with the same indifference as water and electricity. With no stipulations on how or why you're using it.

Jarix ,

With no stipulations on how or why you're using it.

Will not happen because of things like CSAM

Bob_Robertson_IX ,

Good thing water and electricity can't be used to harm kids.

Jarix ,

You miss the point. I'm just saying there will be SOME stipulations on how its used

Edit:

Ideally the internet would be provided with the same indifference as water and electricity. With no stipulations on how or why you're using it.

Should have just been according to everyone:

Ideally the internet would be provided with the same indifference as water and electricity.

Yall telling me some stipulations dont need to be mentioned, using utilites as an example, and yet im also pointing that out and you are trying to say the same thing i am but using my own argument to convince me im wrong.

What a wild place

gh0stcassette ,
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I mean yeah, but I they were talking about net neutrality, preventing ISPs from unilaterally making those decisions, not that there would be Literally No restrictions.

Jarix ,

Should have said what they meant then instead of being lazy. There will be so many obvious stipulations it was stupid to say no stipulations. Dont understand why so many people insist on avoiding saying what they mean and just then say, you know what i meant.

I say this because if you have ever planned or ran a dnd(or any ttrpg)game you are quickly made aware that whats obvious to most, and even what should be obvious to most will often be the hardest thing to get people to include in how they hear what they are being told.

Its wild how much we expect people to assume, when we have so much evidence, if you care to ask for it/look for it and how often we get caught up with dumb derailments(Case in point... I think we are having a discussion, but wont be surprised if you think we are arguing over pedantry. )

Agrivar ,

Case in point... I think we are having a discussion, but wont be surprised if you think we are arguing over pedantry.

As an outside observer, I feel like I can confidently say that you are wrong. YOU are being needlessly pedantic and derailing the conversation.

KairuByte ,
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Only in the sense that laws still need to be followed while using [the internet/water/electricity]. You don’t need to bake “no CSAM” into internet usage agreements, because it’s already illegal.

Jarix ,

Okay but there's much less obvious examples. My point still stands

Also see my reply to gh0stcassette

Codilingus ,

If you share your water or electricity with a neighbor, I think they can cut you off and/or fine you. Probably dependent on the state?

Toes ,
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Yeah, stuff like that is likely decided at the municipality level.

psmgx ,

Good. Fuck the LEC system, let anyone have a crack at it

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