puppy ,

Web is by definition decentralised. I can run a website on my home PC and it's part of the internet. Web3 is about running Blockchain. They are two independent concepts imho. When it comes to Web3, my opinion of it is "meh". It's a buzzword more than anything.

RobotToaster ,
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To be fair namecoin and emerDNS were/are trying to solve the centralised bit of the web, the DNS root.

aBundleOfFerrets ,

OpenNIC is a much more useful stab at that, I think

xigoi ,
@xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

OpenNIC still seems to be engaged with blockchain bullshit: https://emercoin.com/en/2015-01-15-Emercoin_Reaches_Peering_Agreement_with_OpenNIC

aBundleOfFerrets ,

Eeeh I don’t think peering with a blockchain-y shitpile is really anything to get worked up over all things considered

Alice ,
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Removed

squirrel ,

It's a scam https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/

kate ,
@kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com avatar

The original idea was simply for people to control their own data on decentralised networks, I don’t think anyone had a problem with that definition. The term seems to be mostly crypto related now though.

snooggums ,
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The original idea was simply for people to control their own data on decentralised networks, I don’t think anyone had a problem with that definition.

That is how the web has worked since its inception. The fact that people choose to primarily go through a limited number of effective monopolies doesn't mean the underlying structure is centralized.

ignirtoq ,

But people aren't using the web the same way they were at inception. These big companies have built closed source, centralized systems on top of the decentralized infrastructure to serve new use-cases that weren't envisioned in the original standards. People like these new use-cases, so we need new standards, etc., to facilitate a re-decentralization of data and features in these new use-cases if we want the most used parts of the web to maintain their openness.

I don't think it's fair to lay the blame on the common user for the centralization of their data, when only the centralized systems have been providing the capabilities they want until very recently (where the open alternatives have arisen partly because of new standards like ActivityPub).

JackGreenEarth ,
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The DNS system is inherently centralised, so is IP address assignment. In both cases you have to got through a centralised agency or their intermediaries.

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