Dark_Arc ,
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My problem with communist views is they're unproven and have only lead to authoritarian governments when put into play.

Capitalism has regularly gone off the rails ... but not to the degree communism has. Capitalism has been defending democracy for the last few centuries, not communism.

These are the nations that identify as communist:

  • China (PRC)
  • Cuba
  • Laos
  • North Korea (DPRK)
  • Vietnam

These countries were previously communist and (of that has that) have pretty much only improved since transitioning to democracy with capitalist economic systems:

  • Afghanistan
  • Albania
  • Angola
  • Benin
  • Bulgaria
  • Congo
  • Czechoslovakia
  • Ethiopia
  • Germany (GDR)
  • Grenada
  • Hungary
  • Kampuchea
  • Mongolia
  • Mozambique
  • Poland
  • Romania
  • Somalia
  • Soviet Union
  • Tuva
  • Yemen (PDRY)
  • Yugoslavia

That's not to say that capitalism doesn't have its problems, people here aren't angry with it over nothing. However, if you really look at the problems it's had, they all come down to voter manipulation and/or apathy "things are going good, why do I need to worry about politics?".

We didn't just wake up with weakened labor unions, weakened voter rights, weakened infrastructure, etc; we got their because of generations of apathy and frankly electing the wrong people. People that cut taxes, asked "are you better off today than you were four years ago?" (short term gain), allowed our unions to be broken up, allowed jobs to be exported over seas to communist China (which is now one of the greatest international threats), bought the cheapest products (from mom and dad at the store to the executives running major corporations) without asking why they're cheap, etc.

The "common people" cast the votes that ultimately lead to corporations being people. The "middle class" cost votes that ultimately lead to the middle class shrinking.

I think it's naive that communism somehow automatically makes those problems go away/means we'll never end up with similar problems. Especially when communist countries are consistently doing worse/falling into authoritarian rule.

We need to expand our social programs, reign in our billionaires, and reign in our corporations and we'd be a lot better off. Capitalism works so long as you don't let anyone or anything get "too big to fail." Capitalism doesn't have to be capitalism without limits. The reigns of power will always be challenged no matter what system we find ourselves under, only an educated vigilant population can stop that.

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