Kualk ,

A few years from now we may be seeing US tariffs on these just like EVs today.

China is developing fast and it took US trade war seriously.

Fades ,

No fuckin thanks

Flyswat ,

So you want to continue using the American spyware. I'd give the Chinese spyware a try, to even the ground.

dezmd ,
@dezmd@lemmy.world avatar

Nah.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

I'll take the red fascist mobo for use in the Second American Civil War, np

dezmd ,
@dezmd@lemmy.world avatar

Nah.

Allero ,

I'd even go as far as to say your data is way less likely to hurt you when abused abroad than domestically.

And we know American hardware does, indeed, have backdoors.

Specal ,

It's quite funny how terrified of China Americans are.

chakan2 ,
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It's what all the propaganda tells us to be. I'm just sad I'll never get my hands on a sub 10k EV.

amanda ,
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Apparently the instruction set is off-brand MIPS64?!

aBundleOfFerrets ,

I don’t think that is what they mean by “which is a bit like MIPS or RISC-V.“

breakingcups ,

It is. Originally they were a MIPS-like, then they licensed it and became MIPS-compatible, then they extended it into their own instruction set.

TheBigBrother ,

I believe these still not beat the bang for the buck of X79 and X99 PCs.

fuzzywombat ,

This is not a good deal. First of all I highly doubt this mobo and CPU will be Windows 11 compatible so you're out of luck there. For $373 you can find an AMD Ryzen 5 7600X and mobo combo deal that will vastly outperform this Chinese CPU. Also AMD's AM5 platform is DDR5 while this Chinese CPU and mobo combo is DDR4. $373 is a ridiculously non competitive price.

JTskulk ,

Who the fuck uses Windows 11?!

Weslee ,

I do, I've been trying to get off it and onto Bazzite but I tried to do a test run by installing it on my laptop before my pc and the boot loader won't pick up the usb 😔

I don't feel comfortable doing it on my pc without first seeing it work, so it seems I'm stuck on windows

M500 ,

Me 😢

I have a critical work app that will not run in wine or with proton.

I’ve even contacted the devs and they suggested trying to run the android version on Linux, but it doesn’t work either.

realbadat ,

I have several for work that will likely never work in Linux.

So those have a nice little VM they sit on, which has been stripped bare of the nonsense. Remote desktop access enabled, and I can do what I need whenever.

M500 ,

That’s pretty interesting, but it’s a meeting software. So I’m regularly sharing my screen and sharing files. So I need to be in the os. I’ll just key checking it every time a roster counts out for proton or the app I use.

realbadat , (edited )

Ah, admittedly I avoid that problem entirely, I have an MTR, a ZR, etc running on devices here (hardware/software testing stuff), so I don't need to run meetings on my desktop often.

Edit: Just to note, I've done USB passthrough with VMs that were ZR builds and such, so that can be done. But I think if your sharing from there it can get messy (USB video capture and such as your sharing method, so on).

msage ,

So stream your desktop to the VM?

M500 ,

To share the bigger picture, I’m using this app 99% of my working hours. So it doesn’t make sense to do it this way.

I’d be better off just working out of the vm but due to performance loss and dealing with passing through usb I just use windows.

Although, outside of work I use Linux.

mrvictory1 ,

What is the app? You may need to install libhoudini (libndk if you have AMD processor) if it the app is arm only.
https://github.com/casualsnek/waydroid_script

Neato ,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

The majority of businesses and a lot of consumers. 46% of steam users. Few years it'll be the majority.

Fades ,

46, goddamn

Aux ,

Everyone.

SeattleRain ,

No Intel Management Engine though.

lol ,
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Do we know if it has some kind of equivalent though?

bizarroland ,

Is that a bad thing though?

Kualk ,

Give us some links for combo of motherboard, CPU and fan. I assume it needs a fan.

fuzzywombat ,

Here:

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-RyzenTM-6-Core-Mortar-Motherboard/dp/B0C1P856RB/

https://www.amazon.com/PCCOOLER-Paladin-Nickel-Plated-Anti-oxidant-Protective/dp/B0CN66YDXT/

CPU + Mobo combo plus a CPU cooler which adds up to about $381.40 which is $8 more than Chinese CPU + mobo combo. I think that's close enough to be within the margin of price fluctuations. That AM5 mobo comes with four memory slots, PCIe 4.0, USB 3.2 and Wifi 6E. Those features may be worth extra $8 for some.

Aux ,

Bundle List Price: $498.99

Not even close.

exanime ,

This is not a good deal. First of all I highly doubt this mobo and CPU will be Windows 11 compatible so you're out of luck there.

That's a feature lol

For $373 you can find an AMD Ryzen 5 7600X and mobo combo deal that will vastly outperform this Chinese CPU

Really? I'm actually asking because I don't think you can get the amd combo you mentioned at that price. Also, we'd need to confirm the specs and performance. So far it would be just speculation

Aux ,

You shouldn't compare retail prices with deals. Go compare it to AMD MSRP.

partial_accumen ,

Might be helpful to have this hardware if you want to develop malware targeting systems in China.

henfredemars ,

This is some really expensive hardware for a processor that's a couple generations behind in performance.

Also, I'm surprised these can be shipped to the US. I thought this tech was sanctioned or something related to it, or perhaps, it might soon be.

EDIT: Ah, looks like it's legal to purchase even as an entry on the US Entity List, but I am not a lawyer.

Kualk ,

A couple generations don’t mean much anymore.

Performance gains have been slow.

I’d rather understand where exactly is its performance in comparison to AMD and Intel.

Then I can make a call if it is worth it.

After all there’s plenty of Raspberry Pi level performance and people are happy with it as long as price is right.

exanime ,

Less than $400 for mobo, cpu and fan is not expensive even if it's a couple of gens behind

zalgotext ,

I can get an AMD 7800X3D, a b650 mobo, and 32Gb of DDR5 RAM for $500 right now in a bundle from my local Microcenter. I bought that exact bundle for like $425 a few months ago when I rebuilt my gaming PC because they happened to have some other sale running that stacked with the bundle price. Gimme a modern x64 processor and DDR5 RAM I know will feasibly last me like 10 years for a few extra bucks any day.

verdantbanana ,
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Toes ,
@Toes@ani.social avatar

I'm having a hard time finding a bullet point list of all it's features.

Some articles are telling me it's a match for Haswell others are telling me it has AVX2. None of them seem that reliable. Do you happen to know?

Aux ,

It's a MIPS CPU. There's no point comparing it to x86.

just_another_person ,

Why would anyone want this? Maybe they are forcing Chinese nationals to buy them and inflate their popularity as a product for Papa CCP.

bobs_monkey ,

They probably sell them dirt cheap domestically, no need for coercion

OrkneyKomodo ,
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Could be for devs? China's long term goal is to wean itself off western software and hardware.

just_another_person ,

Speaking strictly in the US, which is what this article is about.

roofuskit ,

For devs.

Aux ,

US has plenty of open source devs and they need access to hardware to test their software.

JoMomma ,

No thanks

remotelove ,

Why not? Those CPUs got perfect scores on Red Star OS.

catsarebadpeople ,

Party approved!

Valmond ,

Gonna party like it's 1999...

jamyang ,

More importantly, Winnie approved!

Kualk ,

Does it run Linux?

eleitl ,

I would buy it. No US fed backdoors, just Chinese ones, and I'm not in China.

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