18+ jiujensu ,
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šŸ”»'Trump would be worse' is a bad argument & misses several key points.
šŸ”»Biden is pitting vulnerable groups here against genocide victims in Palestine.
šŸ”»If Biden loses, it will be HIS fault.
šŸ”»Protest the DNC in August

https://www.columnblog.com/p/on-gaza-protest-voters-dem-pundits


@palestine @israel

Thereā€™s a game of chicken going on. The Biden camp is explicitly counting on progressive voters eventually falling in line. This dynamic, this wager, is EXACTLY why they keep sending arms and money to Israel. They are expressly blackmailing left voters, pitting vulnerable groups stateside with genocide victims overseas. This is their calculus and millions of voters intuitively know this. Meanwhile the moral incumbency is placed on some vague cohort of Arab/black/progressive voters This is the CONTEXT of the discussion and rallying the troops at this pointā€”six months before the actual decision needs to be madeā€”reads to a lot of people as capitulation without a fight, as confirmation Bidenā€™s strategy is working in real time. I too find this incredibly insensitive and vulgar. Without ANY CONCESSIONS, without a fight at all people of influence and power should not preemptively pledge their vote. Whats the rush? Itā€™s six months from now? Itā€™s a Hail Mary but why not try to unite to pressure Biden?
Not because anyone wants to, or because itā€™s fun or makes people feel self righteous but because, and this canā€™t be stressed enoughā€”ITā€™S ALL THERE IS. And itā€™s all there is because of Bidenā€™s extremism and unwillingness to listen to overwhelming democratic voter consensus I tried to articulate this in this piece from March. I think the abstract question of ā€œis Trump worse than Bidenā€ is not a question anyone has to sheepdog for this far out. Itā€™s not clear to me what the moral utility of this is at this point.

Tweet by @adamjohnsonCHI My contribution to the ā€œwe still have to vote for Biden discourseā€ is this: I think the popular debate suffers from a flawed premise that this is some abstract trolly problem without political context. šŸ§µ That Trump ā€œwould be worseā€ is a reasonable position in the abstract ofc but itā€™s secondary to the CONTEXT of the debate which everyone keeps avoiding but I think itā€™s the far more interesting and urgent question. What function does the specter of massive vote withholding have? 6 months before the election in Q media influencers and progressive politicians pledging their partisan fidelity serves no functional purpose other than undermining the SINGLE point of leverage powerless angry anti-genocide voters have, which is Team Bidenā€™s fear of losing in Nov It sucks that this is the one point of meaningful leverage they have, but it is, and itā€™s entirely due to Bidenā€™s cold stubbornness and the cracking down on on meaningful dissent.
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    • 18+ barney ,
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    @jiujensu

    It's astonishing that anyone could post such horrifically offensive garbage as this, and still hope to be taken seriously.

    You're attempting to elect Republicans, whose position is "there are very few innocent Palestinian citizens...we should kill them all...gotta finish the problem...like Hiroshima and Nagasaki." You're trying to cause terrible harm to some of the world's most vulnerable people.

    @palestine @israel

    18+ jiujensu OP ,
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    @barney @palestine @israel

    You didn't read anything, you ignorant walnut.

    18+ barney ,
    @barney@mas.to avatar

    It's hard to imagine a sicker piece of shit than someone who tries to convince those who love Palestinians to cause them to be annihilated "like Hiroshima and Nagasaki." Or to have two million people forcibly removed from Gaza.

    Joel Carmel, peace activist: "Probably the only thing holding back the resettlement of Gaza @israel] is the Biden administration."

    @jiujensu: "Good. All of Gaza should be annexed by Israel."

    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/an-opportunity-from-god-israels-religious-zionists-dream-of-settlements-in-gaza/

    @palestine

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