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rdri , to Technology in Russia is using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite devices in Ukraine, sources say

Welp, Musk clearly isn't even interested in exploring the possibility and just calls it fake news. I guess you won the argument by essentially saying "Nobody knows and no one needs to try".

rdri , to Technology in Russia is using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite devices in Ukraine, sources say

They can't be. Ukraine must have them under full control because they rely on them too much.

Also it's much easier to assume that these modules, like any other modern tech these days are bought by Russia through other countries who it still does business with like China, Turkey etc.

rdri , to Technology in Russia is using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite devices in Ukraine, sources say

Yeah okay. Let's say we covered the billing. What about devices id, their origin and location? Those are not purchased through Ukraine and Starlink is ought to know that.

rdri , to Technology in Russia is using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite devices in Ukraine, sources say

The idea that they aren’t able to come up with a credit card with a Ukrainian name that looks 100% legitimate to a billing company is farcical.

I see you don't know how credit card numbers work. You may also not be aware of the fact that credit cards aren't working in Russia for almost 2 years.

Let me just ask you point blank, do you think the CIA could manage to purchase a Starlink, activate it, and use it, without anyone having any idea it was the CIA that did all that?

Just one or two is easy to manage. A dozen is much more difficult already, provided Starlink manages some security and has access to metadata (data that ultimately can't be faked such as location, accounts, device id).

rdri , to Technology in Russia is using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite devices in Ukraine, sources say

What do you mean? They steal basically everything they can when destroying cities and killing people. Should I mention it's a crime to make it more obvious?

rdri , to Technology in Russia is using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite devices in Ukraine, sources say

It’s just data, which can also be easily encrypted and proxied to mask the fact that they are being used for military purposes.

It's not though. The data goes both ways. As long as the device id was not altered, its history of movement can be tracked down, provided such a data is being recorded.

Also, there may be caveats about how accounts are getting created and activated. Those devices bought by Russia may come with pre-activated accounts that can be tracked by origin.

Finally, billing. Unless Russia is not relying on stolen Ukrainian credit cards it should be easy to identify that a group of devices/accounts is being paid for by entities that are neither Russian nor Ukrainian.

Based on all of that, they could filter groups of devices by location, confirm it with Ukrainian forces and ban maliciously used ones.

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