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onlinepersona ,

I wanted to write code with more authority and higher wage, not sit in endless meetings and explain to somebody why it's 8 story points instead of 5 🙄

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onlinepersona ,

I think it's good for complainers to fork and experience what it's like to manage a software project (or project in general). Maybe it'll make them more humble and understanding.

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onlinepersona ,

Before I read this, let me guess: publicly traded or ultimately owned by an entity that is publicly traded?

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onlinepersona ,

You're right. So, the problem is working for a publicly traded company, IMO.

Devs have to either unionize, join private gaming companies, indie gaming companies, or band together and make their own.

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onlinepersona ,

I think it's hilarious. If somebody gets triggered by something so simple, their advice will probably amount to "use Arch/NixOS/Gentoo" and probably isn't worth listening to.

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How are companies or developers supposed to make a full time living with OSI opensourced projects? ( opensource.org )

There has been a lot of talk about companies and individuals adopting licenses that aren't OSI opensource to protect themselves from mega-corp leechers. Developers have also been condemned who put donation notices in the command-line or during package installation. Projects with opensource cores and paid extensions have also...

onlinepersona OP ,

That's possibly fine for services, but what happens when a large, well-known competitor decides to offer the service at a lower price (possibly on their own infrastructure), takes away the customers, but doesn't contribute back?

Also, how should libraries (aka stuff that can't be hosted or doesn't have an interface) be handled?

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onlinepersona OP ,

As mentioned in books published TWENTY YEARS AGO, many companies working in Open-Source make their money in value-added services and support.

And the world hasn't changed in 20 years?

It’s also totally okay to not blithely jam the words together but to pretend hyphens are a thing.

What?

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onlinepersona OP ,

Do you believe breaking away from the strict OSI opensource definition would be acceptable? It could allow things like:

  • royalties for commercial instances
  • service fees for commercial instances
  • no commercial use

not all at one of course

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onlinepersona OP ,

I know all updates can be behind a paywall and still be FOSS but it really hurts the public good / community aspects that make FOSS great to me.

If companies abuse public good, how should the public protect itself and still stay great?

From a policy stand point I think stakeholders should sue when a major security breach tanks gets identities stolen, the stock or worse and CTO failed to buy down any risk with SLAs on key software.

🤔 Could you clarify the relation to opensource?

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onlinepersona OP ,

I'm for it but what do we do in the meantime?

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onlinepersona OP ,

Free and open source for selfhosting, paid when hosted by the company (e.g Nextcloud, gitea, cal.com)

Do you believe anything should be done if a large competitor takes over the business of hosting for other companies and hosting is the major revenue stream of the opensource project?

Free and open source with basic features, paid for proprietary business addons (e.g Portmaster, Xpipe)

That sounds like Open Core and I am for this, but there seems to be a dissatisfaction within the loud part of the opensource community regarding it. They don't consider it "open-source". Do you still count it as opensource?


Your proposals concern services or applications. Do you have any thoughts on opensource that isn't that e.g libraries, frameworks, protocols, and so on?

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onlinepersona OP ,

How would this look like? Are you suggesting a different license? Or is it more something like paid binaries but the code stays open?

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onlinepersona OP ,

Both of those aren't opensource (at least I can't find their repos on their webpages), but I see the model your proposing. Maybe just providing an option to pay at all, and not make it a donation, could work. The only problem I see is a competitor swooping in with a bigger team (or a team in the first place), and building upon the existing project to kill it in order to end up selling its own product. With non-restrictive opensource licenses like MIT and Apache, I assume it would be trivial. GPLv3 would make that a little harder.

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onlinepersona OP ,

its a problem in which people that benifit the most aren’t paying their proportional amount of the bill or worse no one is and we poise ourselves to lose it

Exactly. A lot of this public infra is written in OSI respecting opensource, yet it is being taken advantage of with little to no kickback. Most people writing opensource cannot live on it and are never compensated for their work. Yet, when the proposition is made to introduce the equivalent of a tax within/for opensource projects, there's an outcry about it not respecting the OSI definition of opensource.

So, my question is, what's the realistic alternative? Because right now OSIsts are defending the equivalent of roads being built by people in their offtime and are vehemently against it being written that they should get compensated if the road is used for commercial purposes.

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onlinepersona ,

Because they aren't P2P.

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onlinepersona ,

Amazing. The first medium project on radicle. If this node stops syncing this repo, it should be easy enough to have another node sync it.

However, I'm not sure if radicle has discoverability built in. With torrents, a magnet link allows finding it, and IPFS just has a hash allowing you to find it. If radicle just needs a hash to find a node with it, that would make it easy for nintendo to list all the nodes and send them a take down notice (which would or would not be heeded, depending on the operator). Regardless, radicle might support anonymous hosting with I2P, which would make nintendo or any other party powerless and unable to send takedown notices to the anonymous servers.

Additionally, it isn't clear to me how to contribute to radicle projects yet. Developers will have to learn how to contribute to P2P hosted projects now, but that's probably not a big learning curve.

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onlinepersona ,

Does that enable some kind search throughout the radicle network for a project with that ID in order to pull/clone it?

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onlinepersona ,

Very nice. Thanks.

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onlinepersona ,

If it was popular, probably? But I wouldn't know.

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onlinepersona OP ,

So a single entity is allowed to commercialize external contributions without any kind of reciprocity

Where are you getting this from? This isn't my understanding of what's described on the webpage.

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onlinepersona OP ,

So far, I haven't seen a realistic proposition for OSI opensource projects to get fairly compensated or protected from leechers like mega-corps. If you're some widely used project without marketing like xz, then nobody cares about financing you until something big happens. I'll just make a post asking what people realistically expect should be done, because it does pique my interest now.

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onlinepersona ,

It's fine to use it for 80% of tasks too and try to contribute to it becoming available for 100% of tasks.

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onlinepersona ,

The US should stop thinking its the only and also the only dominant player on the planet. I seriously hope this creates more competition as China is showing that non-US chips are not only possible, but also good. More countries should make their chip - especially the EU should.

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onlinepersona ,

Name isn't Ultra Woke and that's on purpose

onlinepersona ,

There are techniques to deblur. It's even how a prolific child sex offender was caught.

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onlinepersona ,

True, but that just turns into a cat an mouse game. Also, one the photo is up, the background doesn't change how its blurred with time --> wait long enough and a technique to unblur will be developed.

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onlinepersona ,

You do realize that a lot of image recognition was done on scaled down images? Some techniques would even blur the images on purpose to reduce the chance of confusion. Hell, anti-aliasing makes text seem more readable by adding targeted blur.

Deblurring is guessing and if you have enough computing power with some brain power (or AI), you can reduce the number of required guesses by erasing improbable guesses.

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onlinepersona ,

It’s still just guessing.

And thus programming data into existence.

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onlinepersona ,

Lol, people simple forget sites are even blocked because they use VPNs. Friggin' amazing. The only site I know was blocked is SciHub, but it has so many mirrors, all it took was finding one.

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onlinepersona ,

Why doesn't he upload these to peertube or host his own peertube?

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onlinepersona ,

There are peertube instances out there hosted by others...

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onlinepersona ,

Precisely what I'm alluding to. If he dislikes youtube so much, why isn't he uploading his stuff to mirrors? Grayjay should/would be able to pick that up and allow watching his content from peertube instead of peertube.

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onlinepersona ,

Just keep going. If it's debated in parliament, it might even end up on the news.

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onlinepersona ,

Maybe they could join together and write an opensource Kerbal Space Program 2?

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onlinepersona ,

As a lawyer, what's your opinion on the CC BY-NC-SA v4 license?

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onlinepersona ,

Ironic, considering you are undoubtedly not a lawyer and have evidently never even dealt with copyright issues.

How is it ironic? I never said I was a lawyer, nor did I ever say I was giving legal advice, nor have I ever spoken with authority on the subject.

You however... can't see the irony of your own statement.

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onlinepersona ,

Previous work has already shown that image generators can be forced to generate examples from their training data—including copyrighted works—and an early OpenAI LLM produced contact information belonging to a researcher

You don't seem to be able to read the articles, yet have responded with junk anyway.

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