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octopus_ink , to You Should Know in YSK: lemmy.ml is managed by tankies, and lead lemmy developer is a tankie

First, thanks for the thoughtful and thorough reply.

I am sorry that this is upsetting to you.

It's not upsetting to me, it's just annoying. I strongly support the block early/block often culture that seems to pervade the fediverse, even when that is folks blocking me. I also support the ability to defederate, and strongly support (for example) pre-emptively defederating from threads.

Indeed, such decisions at the user or instance level are potentially messy, but the whole thing just seems self-healing over time to me. There's an equilibrium that needs to be reached, I think, and I doubt we're anywhere near it yet. Some instances are going to end up isolated, either by themselves or by others, and some won't. New instances will spring up, instances will shut down, etc etc. People will move around to find a new instance when needed. It's all really sloppy and the outcome for any one user or instance isn't necessarily going to match the outcome for another. That's freedom to me. And not in some maga "free speech means I get to be a jerk but no one can call me out" way, but in a "we're all empowered to influence our own experience here" way. People can block, instances can defederate, people can deploy their own instance and make it as open or closed or personal or public as they want to. Hot damn.

And all that is going to create friction and people are going to disagree with each other about how to do it and what the right way is, just like we're doing here.

But, despite your very reasonable rationalizations for OP, and regardless of their intent, this very subconversation and others are evidence that this isn't what a discussion about moderation practices looks like. It's what a discussion about publicly calling someone out with a pejorative term for their beliefs looks like. Expressing that opinion, and defending it when required, is the extent of my involvement or concern. I don't share the beliefs of OP nor their target. Whether folks want to change how they are discussing the issue or not is up to them. That's also freedom, in my opinion.

I might migrate instances at some point, I might not, we'll see how things go, but it's not going to be because of this post from OP. Folks can run their instances as they see fit. They don't owe me a platform, nor OP.

octopus_ink , to You Should Know in YSK: lemmy.ml is managed by tankies, and lead lemmy developer is a tankie

Please bear in mind that I'm a lemmy.ml user (though not a tankie, nor marxist, nor even socialist.)

Look at OP. How many lines are about smearing someone for their politics and beliefs (Even the subject line covers ONLY that), and how many are about the need to improve moderation practices at .ml (precious few, not even the subject line).

IMO that's one reason. The discussion rarely ends up being about moderation practices even when that's the stated goal. It ends up being about not liking someone's views.

The other reasons - you can personally block that instance if you choose, but for it to be hidden from EVERYONE on an instance, the admins of the instances need to make that decision. (To defederate.) There are lots of potential reasons not to do so, and I think many of them boil down to not throwing out the baby with the bathwater since there are plenty of users on ml like me who are not tankies and are just having the same discussions we'd have anywhere.

I got a 3 day ban from one single community at .ml within my first couple days here for using the term "whataboutism" - I suspect it was an automod action. I wasn't really happy about it, but eh? shrug

I have the same answer for folks now that I did when social media was somehow full of US conservatives claiming they could no longer speak their minds on social media. No one is obligated to give me or you or anyone a platform. If Lemmy.ml is that much of a shithole, it will eventually get defederated broadly, and everyone who isn't a tankie will stop using it.

The occasional thread like this, or someone complaining that my opinion is invalid because I'm an ml user (has happened maybe three times) are the only times I ever think about it really.

octopus_ink , to You Should Know in YSK: lemmy.ml is managed by tankies, and lead lemmy developer is a tankie

Isn’t a main point of this whole fediverse thing that you can just block entire instances as well as users?

You can do exactly that. OP wants everyone to do it.

octopus_ink , to Technology in Top news app caught sharing “entirely false” AI-generated news

Take an article from a reputable publisher, an article for a subject that you are expert in.

Read it and make note of facts they got right and got wrong.

This is what got me to shake free of some podcasters I placed far too much faith in at one point in the past. When I realized how slanted and fucked their opinion was on things I knew about, it put all their other opinions in a much different light.

octopus_ink , to Videos in The full video from the famous "Tank Man" photo

In reply to the same comment you replied to: https://lemmy.ml/post/16506777/11480556

octopus_ink , to World News in North Korea drops balloons carrying trash in South

Yes, but when the next one has radioactive waste or a biohazard in it..

octopus_ink , to Not The Onion in Trump demands drug test for Biden ahead of first debate

You get no argument from me! 100% agree. I'm as frustrated as anyone that this is the case, but it is. Maybe everyone has to have their one "reform" vote lesson. I voted for Nader once. I still get a hard time for that from some people.

octopus_ink , to Technology in New Windows AI feature records everything you’ve done on your PC

Go fuck yourself Microsoft.

octopus_ink , to Not The Onion in Trump demands drug test for Biden ahead of first debate

I endorse invalidating the 2 party system by not participating in the 2 party system and forcing reform.

Well folks, I've got some news. Melkath didn't vote. There's only one course now. Electoral College? Scrapped! FPTP voting? Scrapped! Two Party System? Scrapped!

octopus_ink , to Technology in Slack users horrified to discover messages used for AI training

Seriously. What would be surprising is if they were not. Proprietary System gonna Proprietary System.

octopus_ink , to memes in Won't someone think of the yachters.
octopus_ink , to Reddit in r/The_Donald helped radicalize users into far-right identities and discourse – Active users on r/The_Donald increasingly used white nationalist vocabularies in their comments within three months.

Wow that’s a lot of text with a lot of opinion I don’t really care for. I was more looking for a list but all I got was cuck, zionist, ethnostate, soros, and 1488. The rest is ideas and concepts and Dumas’s conspiracy theories not vocaulary.

I mean, you asked a bunch of random strangers instead of going to google, so ya gets what ya gets, I guess.

octopus_ink , to memes in Addiction is a scary thing
octopus_ink , to Linux in superfile - A pretty fancy and modern terminal file manager

This looks super cool, but I've been using midnight commander for so so long.

octopus_ink , to Linux in Windows is hell, i need to do something

Edit: the linux-company thing is just for triggering people, sorry I didn’t know it was this effective.

Heh it really was wasn't it? Been on Linux for near to twenty years now and I'm still surprised to see it. :D

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