nicholas_saunders

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faab64 , to palestine group

I'm so sick and disgusted by these people.

It's just really hard to understand.

How can they be so evil?

@palestine @israel

nicholas_saunders ,

@faab64 @palestine @israel perhaps start by considering that it's unlikely that Quentin Tarantino considers himself or his actions as evil?

RememberUsAlways , to palestine group
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considering leaving
"In response to the UN adding Israel to the “blacklist” of countries who harm children during war, Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Gilad Erdan, said that Israel needs to weigh leaving the UN. He said the move was “a despicable decision by the Secretary General who hates Israel, who in his conduct serves dictators and murderers and will be remembered in history as a failed Secretary General who degraded the UN to an all-time low.”
@palestine
https://anash.org/war-day-251-israel-considers-exiting-un-rescue-details-revealed/

nicholas_saunders ,

@FrankFrank @RememberUsAlways @palestine @israel so many smiles rejoicing in murder.

nicholas_saunders , to palestine group

[The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon Edition] Lawfare Daily: Is Complying with the Law of War a Defense to Genocide?
https://podcastaddict.com/the-lawfare-podcast-patreon-edition/episode/177653230 via @PodcastAddict

Takeaways so far:

IHL is squishy

A delta in which genocide obligations not displaced by IHL

However, she also says that this isn't exactly what's being argued.

@palestine @israel

Sherifazuhur , to palestine group
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This thread by Warfare Analysis explains what happened in Nuseirat & how the truck from the Anerican pier was involved. @palestine @israel https://x.com/warfareanalysis/status/1799447429206708244?s=46&t=uM8me4uwdP7D0z4nanVVuw

nicholas_saunders ,

@Sherifazuhur @palestine @israel so they should surrender, or just allow repeated operations?

mondoweiss , to palestine group
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Indiana University's "Liberation Commencement" was a celebration of the students' brave commitment to fighting powerful institutions and their involvement in challenging Zionism and the Palestinian genocide.

https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/a-tale-of-two-commencements-how-gaza-solidarity-encampments-are-changing-the-way-we-see-university-education/


@palestine @israel

nicholas_saunders ,

@chiraag @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel bro, when you're lost in the epitome of the that impedes any discussion. If you want to argue apartheid, then do so -- but not even South Africa has done so.

At the Hague, as you have some here, they make the claim only.

I might ask in reply:

Did you stop beating your wife?

nicholas_saunders ,

@fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

The caveat is that it only applies to war between Western democracies.

It's worked well in Europe. Again, I'd point to:

England
France
Germany
Spain

Europe doesn't see the wars which were endemic before democracy became so prevalent.

Where the populace would vote in a theocracy, yeh, it would fail.

nicholas_saunders ,

@fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

There's some validity to your assertions, but you're going past my point, which I'll form as a question:

How many of the states or organizations involved hold regularly scheduled elections publicly?

nicholas_saunders ,

@chiraag @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

To address the last first, in not answering the asked question of:

Did you stop beating your wife?

But instead changing the question you've demonstrated that the point of the question escapes you.

It's the epitome of a loaded question -- which is what you've asked me.

nicholas_saunders ,

@InternetDev @fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

While your points aren't without validity, just going with the usual usage. What did Churchill say? That democracy is terrible, but the alternatives are worse?

Or, Voltaire:

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

nicholas_saunders ,

@fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

That you're going past the operative word "involved" below:

How many of the states or organizations involved hold regularly scheduled elections publicly?

Is quite telling. Allow me to retract the question and instead ask why you went past that word.

nicholas_saunders ,

@nus @fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Stop setting up these strawmen arguments -- only in your fevered imagination was this said.

nicholas_saunders ,

@InternetDev @fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Surely you're more familiar than myself with Voltaire and his remark with regards to perfection -- your standards are excessive and beside the point.

nicholas_saunders ,

@fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel well, the DPT works between states with elections -- so I'm baffled. Why are you introducing Chile into this?

Seems like a

We're both Chile and Brazil democracies at the time?

nicholas_saunders ,

@fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel err. We're talking about war, tho...

Don't ask me to defend the CIA, if you would.

Knowing nothing about Chile, I'll go out on a limb and say that they're probably at least as democratic as Vietnam, tho.

nicholas_saunders ,

@KathyLK @chiraag @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

If you cannot get past settlers colonialism, and undoubtedly tying that into apartheid, then what's left to discuss?

Said differently, if you're able to acknowledge the contentious nature of those claims then there's at least the sliver of an opportunity for dialogue.

nicholas_saunders ,

@fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel what is your criticism here? Seems that you're asking me to defend the CIA.

nicholas_saunders ,

@fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Wasn't arguing that the CIA is distinct, but it's also sometimes a rogue agency.

Anyhow, the all knowing copilot ai says that the theory is valid. Your argument seems to hinge on....what, exactly?

That Chile has a history of democracy? At least for the sake of argument, granting that claim, then what?

nicholas_saunders ,

@fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel FFS, obv a throw away said in irony -- but if you want to dispute the validity of the theory, then do so.

nicholas_saunders ,

@fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel no worries, bro, but the immediate topic at hand was the theory and, for some reason, Chile.

You seem intent on throwing aspersions rather than a topical discussion.

nicholas_saunders ,

@fedwards9965 @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

This guy introduced Chile as a and when that didn't go the way he thought then it's suddenly personal attacks without ever even offering a cogent criticism of the theory itself.

nicholas_saunders ,

@somekindahate3 @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel stop holding back and say what you mean.

nicholas_saunders ,

@chiraag @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Not a meaningless question, but, rather, a loaded question.

nicholas_saunders ,

@chiraag @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

It's for any unless they're Jewish.

nicholas_saunders ,

@somekindahate3 @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Do you often find hurling epithets to be useful?

nicholas_saunders ,

@serenissimaj @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

But Julia, surely you're in favor of rights. ?

nicholas_saunders ,

@retrohondajunki @KathyLK @somekindahate3 @mondoweiss @palestine @israel when you're stuck in the epitome of the , Ben, kinda impedes any dialogue.

nicholas_saunders ,

@chiraag @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Depends on how antisemitism is defined, and who's categorizing and sorting Jews.

It's contentious.

nicholas_saunders ,

@KathyLK @chiraag @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Kathy, you've got to understand the importance of rights for any but Jews with this crowd.

nicholas_saunders ,

@KathyLK @nus @chiraag @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Beautiful; only when Israel is dismantled will Jews be safe -- goat, you could teach the mafia a thing or two about selling protection.

nicholas_saunders ,

@KathyLK @nus @chiraag @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Goat, you're only able to ask and engage in because it makes for a simplification.

nicholas_saunders ,

@nus @KathyLK @chiraag @mondoweiss @palestine @israel 😂

Bro, you're only able to engage in circular reasoning and loaded questions. Only.

Others are here to, ya know, discuss something.

nicholas_saunders ,
nicholas_saunders ,

@nus @KathyLK @chiraag @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

No one ever agreed with your ludicrous prison pit of bullshit.

nicholas_saunders ,

@nus @KathyLK @chiraag @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Bro, you lost all privileges last year by failing to answer:

what military course of action on Oct 8 would've met with your high moral standards?

nicholas_saunders ,

@Tonkey @nus @KathyLK @chiraag @mondoweiss @palestine @israel dorje, I for one encourage you to buy into the bs goat is peddling -- seems right up your alley from this response.

nicholas_saunders ,

@somekindahate3 @nus @KathyLK @chiraag @mondoweiss @palestine @israel no, bro, you're just making foolish arguments which only sound strong because you're lost in the hall of mirrors which those lost in the effect find themselves.

nicholas_saunders ,
nicholas_saunders ,

@nus @KathyLK @chiraag @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Congratulations on again derailing any substantive aspect to discussion by injecting your personal animosity.

nicholas_saunders ,

@nus @nicholas_saunders @nicholassaunders @KathyLK @palestine @israel

But, goat, you lost all privileges with me last year by failing to answer:

what military course of action would've met with your high moral standards on Oct 8?

nicholas_saunders ,

@nus @KathyLK @palestine @israel

Bro, as above, you lost all privileges with me last year.

nicholas_saunders ,

@ViXY_DBC @KathyLK @chiraag @mondoweiss @palestine @israel your pronoun choice seems to be a typo. What, or who, does "it" refer to? Perhaps you unintentionally referred to Jews as such.

nicholas_saunders ,

@nus @ViXY_DBC @KathyLK @ml @palestine @israel

Bro, your syntax parsing skills leave a lot to be desired -- but, thing is that you lost all privileges with me through your unwillingness to articulate a response to the operation.

nicholas_saunders ,

@somekindahate3 @chiraag @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Leaving aside the attacks, and veiled threats of violence, you're disputing that the definitions offered are contentious?

nicholas_saunders ,

@somekindahate3 @chiraag @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel so you're both throwing epithets left and right, and implicitly acknowledging that you're only able to argue from advantageous definitions.

nicholas_saunders ,

@somekindahate3 @chiraag @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

You're so lost, and so wrong as to how and what "implicit" means -- your "grades" demonstrating that you're not here to converse.

nicholas_saunders ,

@somekindahate3 @chiraag @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

It's only your own misunderstanding of words and meaning on display here, my friend -- as well as your need, of course, to make baseless accusations and be insulting.

nicholas_saunders ,

@somekindahate3 @chiraag @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

You seem to have lumped together the meanings for implicit with implied without recognizing any distinction, as you've used them seemingly interchangeably -- or, at least, that's the inference.

nicholas_saunders ,

@somekindahate3 @chiraag @KathyLK @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

Bro, my man, such may be your contention.

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