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mozz ,
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I knew a guy who rode in a tank in one of America's foreign wars. He said that the original "The Roof is on Fire" was a much-loved thing to play on the sound system in the tank. That and death metal.

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There's more. Her full statement is:

It only means Russia will have one less plane flying to Ukraine to strike and kill Ukrainians. ... Our job as politicians is to explain what will happen if we do not make such a decision. It is necessary to realize that in such a case, the Russian army will go to the western border of Ukraine, up to the Polish border. These troops will then be directly in front of the NATO border, which we are also defending. If we don't stop Putin, then, as a result, our territory and our military will be jeopardized. Because if [Russia] attacks Poland or another NATO country, such as the Baltic states, we Germans will also be drawn into the war. If you don't want that, you have to make life difficult for Putin.

It's an aspect I had not considered -- "I don't want a hostile military alliance coming right up to my country's border" cuts both ways.

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Wasn’t intending it as any kind of negative thing, just giving more of the info, since you provided some which I thought was a good idea

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Yeah. You can actually look at the timeline, and there was an extensive debate inside Ukraine about whether or not they should make any kind of attempt at NATO, with the "not" side being initially pretty strong, and for pretty much exactly the reason you'd expect. And then, every time Russia did some unprovoked horrifying military aggression nearby or directly to them, the eagerness for NATO within Ukraine got a lot greater, until at this point, they and the West are both firmly in favor of it once things stabilize to a non-WW3 level of safety to do that.

The whole "Russia responded after the West tried to get Ukraine into NATO, which Ukraine had no independent desire for" thing is backwards in two whole separate different ways.

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They could always go the fuck home

mozz ,
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Surely anyone who feels that it’s an urgent problem can make a fork which is fully identical in every way except for the logo and name and branding

Since the amount of effort that would be required for that would be infinitesimal compared to what was already done to make the software

And then produce all these good things which you say are being held back

Or, wait, did you mean you wanted someone else to do that because you feel that it’s super important enough to insist that someone else should do it but not important enough to do yourself?

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Yeah, I mean glimpse seems fine; in general it seems completely fine if someone says "hey I think this is a problem for some percent of people who have weird priorities in life because they are corporate or weird thinking, I support the idea to solve it and make a friendly name for them"

It's just that if the response is "yeah that percent of people are not our problem, we just want to make this project and we did, thank you and good day", then you need to be able to say "ok I will make the fork to fix it then" instead of writing up a big blog post demanding that they need to obey you on what your opinion of the priorities for their own project should be.

mozz ,
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I am not from Ukraine so maybe you don't want my input, but:

  • Wikipedia's map shows a very good up-to-date overview of the high level
  • This channel I find to give good tactical updates from the Ukrainian perspective
  • Metaculus seems to think that by far the most likely outcome is a continuation of the stalemate for a while, followed by some type of partition of the country. I won't say it's possible to predict the future but their predictions are the most reasonable-to-put-faith-in that I know of.
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Did they go offroading to try to hide the trucks in the trees?

I am not a combat truck person but surely abandoning the truck and running is a better strategy than that. Not trying to talk shit on someone in a desperate situation, but at the same time fuck 'em.

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Yeah. They "encroached" on 77% of Palestinian land in 1947.

Since then, they've steadily encroached on 56% of what was left.

Now they're encroaching on 32% of Gaza, which is 4% of the 56% of the 77%. The Palestinians are going from owning the least usable 10.1% of all the land they used to own, to now a 9.7% share. So what's the big deal? Doesn't sound like that much.

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Israel absolutely gets to say it has the right to defend itself.

Quick question, does Palestine get to say it has the right to defend itself?

Follow-up, is starving Palestinian children part of what you would claim is Israel defending itself? Or is that something Israel doesn’t have a right to do?

mozz OP , (edited )
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And yes, it does have the right to defend itself. Perhaps they should send their armies into Gaza Strip to defend their country

I... what? March them across the intervening Israeli territory, so they can engage with the IDF once they arrive in the Gaza strip? Something tells me that wouldn't be the totally logical and good successful step you seem to be suggesting it would be.

So... getting away from the back and forth, I have a feeling that the underlying thing you're saying, that Hamas is a violent terroristic organization and they shouldn't have killed or raped all those people at the music festival, I agree with completely. Where it breaks down for me is:

  1. Likud has been helping Hamas defeat their less-violent domestic opposition, and elevating the most violent and unreasonable element in Palestinian politics, for years now. Which kinda makes it weird for them to all of a sudden get upset that the Palestinians are acting violent and unreasonable. It's like picking the worst and most dangerous dog to take home to your family, then torturing it on purpose because it's a "bad dog," and then blaming someone else when it mauls one of your children, and saying everyone needs to put you in charge and never question you so you can protect everyone against these dogs and keep torturing the dogs. To me, that shit means you should never be in charge of anything again and should maybe be brought up on charges both for what happened to the dog and what happened to your kid.
  2. Any violence Hamas has done to innocent Israelis, the IDF has done to innocent Palestinians ten times over.

To me, no one should get raped at the music festival and no one should watch their children starve. Both of those seem like straightforward things to believe. Anyone on either side who's for a realistic path for peace is the the ally, and anyone on either side who's justifying atrocities is the enemy (as you seemed to do for deliberately starving children -- saying that it happens by accident sometimes, as a way of excusing Israel doing it on purpose, is deliberately missing the point of what I was saying I think.)

I think Hamas leadership and Likud are both guilty of perpetuating the conflict and killing the innocent, and a good solution would be to get the lot of them out of government, bring them up on charges, and find some people whose solution to "they did an atrocity to us" is something other than "Let's do an atrocity to them*! It is justified and will totally fix things because it'll show them not to do that again."

(* "them" being very loosely defined and including a whole bunch of innocent people)

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What percentage of Palestinians currently don't live in the family home they were born / grew up in, because the place they grew up in has been destroyed or taken by the Israelis during their lifetime? I mean obviously for Gaza, the percentage is pretty near 100% at this point, but I'm curious what you think the number is for all Palestinians put together.

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I don't know the percentage.

You sounded like you were saying that Palestinian grievances were reaching back 70 years ago. My point was that there are large numbers of Palestinians who have much more recent grievances than 70 years -- like dead relatives of all ages, or lost homes, within their lifetime. What percent of them have that, I have no idea, and I'm genuinely curious what you think the percentage is. But honestly the point wasn't needing to dig up an exact number, 4% or 20% or 50% or whatever. Any of those is too many, and you seem to define Palestinian retribution for it as "terrorism" while Israeli retribution is defined as "defense."

mozz OP ,
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Let the problem fester for 70 years until Israel gets tired of their shit and "solves" the problem their own way. Which is how we got here.

See this is the kind of thing you only ever hear from the "stronger" party in the situation, when their "solution" is some kind of rampant injustice.

Like if the US lost patience with Israel's current government, and got a coalition together, landed UN troops in the West Bank with the support of the whole rest of the world to deport all the settlers back inside the 1993 borders (summarily executing any of them that tried to resist the deportation, and just leaving them dead in the street), and hauled away Netanyahu and half his cabinet to the Hague to stand trial (alongside, yes, Hamas leadership who's guilty of much more numerically minor atrocities), you would never accept that that's justified because they're "solving the problem." Even though that's a lot milder and more measured than what Israel is currently doing to "solve" -- i.e. just carpet-bombing the country and causing a man-made catastrophe of famine destruction that's killing innocent people on an industrial scale.

Any violence Hamas has done to innocent Israelis, the IDF has done to innocent Palestinians ten times over.

Is that before or after war was declared? I would expect peacetime and wartime numbers to be different, and separated.

This is a really good question. Here's a comparison showing injuries alongside deaths, here's a comprehensive breakdown of deaths up until the beginning of the current "war," and here's a breakdown for the current conflict itself.

But, hey, I've already acknowledged that it's a shitty solution, and we're a couple of intelligent people, so instead of "finding some people" for this solution, which is what we've been doing for the past 70 years, let's just talk about what the solution should be. What's really the solution here?

Peace talks? How many are we up to now? I've lost count.

Getting rid of Hamas? How do we do that? Why isn't Palestine themselves capable of getting rid of Hamas? After all, they claim to be the owners of the Gaza Strip, so what the fuck are they doing about it? It's been 70 years. How long do we have to wait?

What else? You've been talking about this "realistic path for peace", right? What's that path look like?

Honestly, in my mind, it has to start with the US stopping providing cover for Israel at the UN. I don't think anyone would say that Hamas should be able to kill innocent people and anyone should let it slide -- so when Israel kills innocent people or breaks international law in some other way, it shouldn't just be let to slide either. Let the UN enact actual solutions, then -- sanctions, military action, legal action against leaders who commit war crimes. Both sides are killing innocents, though not in equal numbers. One, that has to stop, and then two, we have to try to address the root causes that are leading to the killing, and come up with something that is livable.

Ben-Gurion actually touched on this exact point, as far as root causes:

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.

"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"

mozz OP ,
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Extremely true - but even that aside, if it really was as long ago as 70 years, it wouldn’t be the pressing ongoing issue that it is.

There are Palestinians who lost their homes forever, and Israelis who ignored the UN telling them stop breaking international law, this week and last week and the week before that.

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Russia: Sanctions aren’t doing shit, we’re actually better off without the outside world

Also Russia: Hey never mind about the toilets, let me show you how we’ve mastered Nintendo 64 technology

mozz ,
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Yes, you are correct, that's a very relevant correction. "Soon," they say.

mozz ,
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Doom was actually a little before the 350nm era. Doom was like 386 and 486 timeframe; the first Pentium machines were being made when it was released, whereas 350nm was the Pentium Pro. So if they're working on 350nm, they're already ahead of Doom level hardware, hopefully.

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Also:

Sentencing is on July 11th

The Republican National Convention is July 15th

Honestly, it scares me. That'd be great timing for them to go full Beer Hall Putsch mode.

mozz OP ,
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I think new posts just cycle off the main page pretty quickly (I actually like it being that way.) It seems unlikely that Lemmy admins would conspire to get rid of news about Trump -- you can try top last 24 hours to see if they're actually gone or something.

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We gotta break the seal. It has to be jail. He tried to kill the vice president, he stole classified documents and got dozens of CIA assets killed, he explicitly sides with the enemies of the US and against the American people. He wants to shoot protestors and have the military seize the voting machines.

I understand the reluctance. This particular thing, as weird as it is, wasn't actually all that bad. But you gotta break the seal. It's like when you're leaving an abusive partner; the idea of really pulling the trigger is terrifying, because what's gonna happen? And there's no going back. But we have to.

mozz OP ,
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I did some somewhat extensive investigation of voting on some propaganda-bot-adjacent posts, because I suspected they were doing some fake voting... I saw some suspicious stuff but nothing really all that incriminating. I didn't spend too much time on it though.

Is there one of these stories with a ton of downvotes that you'd like me to look into? I looked at a couple of the big ones about the Trump verdict that dropped off the page just now, and they actually only had a few downvotes each, which kind of rules out that theory.

mozz OP ,
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Lmao, so on the same day that I said this, this comment of mine got 7 downvotes in a space of 2 minutes, 5 hours after I posted it, from a variety of accounts each with one- or two-word nonsense names with the first letters capitalized, perfectly evenly spread out among exactly 7 instances.

I'm honestly a little bit surprised that the actual real lemmy.ml users can't manage to muster up enough natural downvotes to overcome me coming in and disagreeing with them, but somebody got salty enough about my comment to feel like it needed a bunch of fake downvotes. Hello @Alsephina -- were those you? You posted your comment 3 minutes before the 7 fake downvotes came in. I think you need to be more subtle with your fake voting if you want people not to notice. Federated votes are not private.

(I actually don't think that's any kind of propaganda-bot operation; I don't think the propaganda bots are that un-subtle, if they are actually doing any kind of fake voting. But who knows.)

(Oh, also he seems to have replied to himself from one of the fake-voting accounts, agreeing with himself about how wrong I was 😃)

mozz , (edited )
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I would put something that’s only “funny” because we all agree Biden stole the election amirite, in a different category. It’s like racist jokes; I don’t think the supposed funniness of it makes it suddenly harmless.

mozz , (edited )
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Give it time

The old school internet was fun because we were in charge. No one would put Peanut Butter Jelly Time or Look at My Horse on TV and let it play in its entirety. No one would print rotten.com on paper and sell it at the corner. For the first time ever in a lot of people's experience, you could publish and say whatever you wanted. Then the reality of hosting costs set in, and the government learned that the internet existed and decided what it needed was outlawed encryption, and long story short there was a long self selection process where only the assholes wound up in charge again.

But now it's coming back. I think everyone's a little bit shell shocked back to the Facebook way (e.g. screaming about the mods and how unfair, instead of starting their own instances / communities, e.g. bickering about what "the rules" need to be and when to put content warnings and whatnot). I think it'll equalize as the realpolitik of people generally running their own servers replaces the realpolitik of it being just a bunch of assholes running the servers and us being helpless and no escape from them.

I don't know exactly what culture it will equalize to, but I definitely feel like it will be a big step back towards the old internet. We just haven't gotten there yet.

mozz OP , (edited )
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I am sure there are many more people who are writing books than who are billionaires. His point was, how many are making a living at it as their primary career.

Did you read his breakdown? He made a pretty compelling case that that number is about 500.

mozz OP ,
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Well, you’re just stating your narrative, with 0 metrics; why is that any better?

mozz OP ,
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Yeah. I mean the article could be right or wrong, although it seems to me at first glance to be plausible + relevant. But the number of people coming out to just purely jeer at the conclusions like "FUK U THERES PLENTY OF WRITERS THIS DUDE IS RONG, CITATION: MY DICK" -- no real attempt to disagree with anything he's saying other than that they don't like it -- is distressing to me.

mozz OP , (edited )
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Just looking down the list of academy members and grabbing some at random I see:

  • Claude Dagens, 84-year-old priest
  • Dany Laferrière, working writer who lives in Miami
  • Jean-Luc Marion, retired professor
  • Andreï Makine, working writer
  • Christian Jambet, philosopher, IDK what he does to pay the bills but his last published work was an essay in 2016

It looks to me like 20% of the part of the list I examined is made up of working writers in France, i.e. one of five. So extrapolating out, we know somewhere in France there are 8 well-known people in this one group who make a living just on writing. I don't know that that means that it is hard to make a living as a writer, but it definitely isn't an argument that it isn't hard to any particular level to make a living as a writer.

Again: The argument is not that writers don't exist, it is that it is a real difficult (like astronomically difficult) field to break into and make a full-time living at. I don't know why that statement is provoking this incredible level of resistance -- maybe because he phrased it so provocatively, I guess, and ignored some plausible ways you can work as an academic and also do writing and the two can support one another, which okay, fair play -- but regardless of that if you didn't like that guy's fairly detailed metrics, and instead are holding up this as your argument, I think you need to try again.

mozz OP ,
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Yeah, I get that, I think that's probably more why it's provoking resistance; he phrased it deliberately provocatively and wound up excluding some avenues that still produce books and people making a living (like working as an academic / teacher and also doing writing). It just kinda irritated me like, hey, I can draw a really strong and surprising conclusion from this data, and people's reaction "that conclusion is surprising" -> "therefore is wrong" -> "no need to look further, I figured it out for you and corrected you, that was easy next pls"

mozz OP ,
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"Critiquing" is a pretty charitable description

mozz OP ,
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Come on, have another go! It's fun to critique things and tell people they are wrong; I wanted to have a turn.

mozz OP ,
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How many of those people are making more than $50k per year at it though?

It’s not “no true Scotsman” if there’s a defined dollar value that makes someone, so to speak, a Scotsman. I mean for all I know you are right and there are plenty who are supporting themselves doing it- but the point is not that writers don’t exist; it is that the number of them who are making a living without some other means of support is way smaller than it should be.

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(*) the money is payed in Russian Rubles

I want to say something sarcastic, but this is fuckin heartbreaking. You know their life expectancy, and quality of life up until the day they get fed into the grinder, is near 0. Think of the desperate hope that someone might have signing up for something like this, and then... the result.

mozz ,
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Ask GPT to rewrite your configuration, check over it with diff to make sure it didn’t do something dumb, bingo bango

What song should I play for my bathroom neighbors?

The work bathroom is currently a warzone, on their phone speakers people like to play music, play games at full blast, and one guy likes to chill to ambient rainforest. What song can I play to passive aggressively make it known that I don't want to listen to their tik tok feeds while I work out my demons?

mozz ,
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  1. Get that passive aggressive shit outta here; either say something direct or resign yourself to that being the way it is and enjoy yourself
  2. I recommend the enjoy yourself option though. Your Mama or Punk Rock Girl or a MrBallen podcast
mozz ,
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1b

Just walk up to the outside of the stall and slap your hands against it and wedge your face up to the stall crack and start whispering complaints. Guarantee they'll turn the music off 😃

mozz ,
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Welcome to Youtube now

It's a career now, with thousands of people trying to make it work, and it selects for ability to exploit Youtube instead of saying some real stuff. And so, the number of people with relevant stuff to say is few and far between.

mozz ,
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"On Tyranny" by Tim Snyder has an excellent set of practical guidelines based on how it's played out in other places historically

LLM queries for personal pdf libraries?

So perplexity can kind of weakly analyze the first few pages of small file size pdfs one at a time, but I'd love to have something that would allow me to upload several hundred research papers and textbooks that could then be analyzed for consensus and contradictions and give me more meaningful search results and summaries than...

mozz ,
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Chroma is supposed to be able to import a ton of information into a vectorized format that lets you search through it in a way that's semantically meaningful, so you (or your tool) can sort of pick out the stuff from a huge batch of source material that you need to pass to the LLM for any given query.

I played around with it a little bit and I wasn't able to determine if it was a real thing or just a weird AI hype thing, but people seem to take it seriously. I would bet that someone's attempted to make a little system on top of it that lets you do stuff like what you're wanting to do (since that's what it's made for), but IDK how well it would work... might be useful to search for stuff adjacent to Chroma or vector databases to see if there are tools like that, though.

mozz ,
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Extra spicy context: The Ukrainians on the eastern front have figured out that it’s hugely important to the Russians to be able to plant Russian flags to show that they are taking territory and making progress. And so, the UA army has made a hobby of planting Ukrainian flags in inconvenient places with drones (in the middle of a huge open field with no cover, up on top of a water tower), and then inevitably comes a Russian operation to remove the flag even though it’s the world’s most obvious ambush (because removing the flag is a CRITICAL priority and the Russian commanders care more about the flags than the lives of their men.) And so, the Ukrainians get to do an ambush.

It’s working so well in the place that they invented it that the game of Water Tower Drone Flag is spreading to other areas and apparently working well there, too.

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