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@DropBear @palestine @israel

So basically you believe in colonialism, and that the indigenous population shouldn't be allowed to decide their own fate.

DropBear ,
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Quite the opposite @argumento
To paraphrase article 12 of the Jerusalem Declaration; from the river to the sea, all should live in peace - as equals.

For centuries, Muslims, Christians and Jews shared Palestine. Then the Zionists arrived. They insisted on being the Master Race. That's the problem.
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: has murdered more 7 October hostages than Hamas, who by the way hasn't murdered a single one.

Fact: Hamas has already agreed to a ceasefire deal that would free all hostages.

Fact: Israel's reply to Hamas agreement to free all hostages was to invade and murder even more people, while expelling all the refugees (over a million) to inhabitable areas without water, electricity or food.

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@argumento @palestine @israel

Hamas kidnapped the hostages. If they had not been hostages they would still be alive.

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@railmeat @palestine @israel

Israel invaded Palestine and carried out an ethnic cleansing in 1948 and a genocide today. Had Israel kept to its word in the Oslo agreements, there would be no Hamas.

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Way before Hamas was a thing, back in the 70s or 60s, Israel, and western media for that matter, were already branding the Palestinians as "terrorists". Basically the west calls Palestinians "terrorists" whenever they fight back.

The PLO and Al Fatah were called terrorists, and they are secular nationalist movements. Anyone is called a terrorist but the terrorizing, apartheid Israeli regime.

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@argumento @palestine @israel

Never mind the Sicarii from ancient times, or in modern times, Irgun, Haganah, HaHerut, Lehava, Lehi, etc, which are now known as Likud, IDF and Mossad, etc. Nor the fact that Hamas was funded by Israel as a means to derail the PLO.

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@argumento @palestine @israel

We called them terrorists because, by their own admission, they indulged in terrorism. And they still do.

Not just Oct 7th but literally every day. They're still shooting rockets at civilian Israeli targets.

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took the hostages, but the one who's murdering them in cold blood is the regime.

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@argumento @palestine @israel

They wouldn't be hostages if they hadn't been kidnapped. Hamas can free them any time it wants: it refuses to.

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People defending Israel are morally bankrupt.

But they are not financially bankrupt, since they are probably being paid for it!

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Scmurcott ,
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@TruthSandwich @israel @palestine the Imperial army of the US and it's proxy Israel Vs a small armed resistance to decades of occupation, it's like David vs Goliath.

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@Scmurcott @israel @palestine

You mean Iran and its various proxies -- Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis -- against tiny Israel and its fickle ally.

Hamas doesn't care about living Palestinians.

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never gave a fuck about the hostages.

For the Netayahu regime, the hostages are worth more dead than alive, since they being dead "proves" that "Hamas is bad", while they returning alive would mean that Israel no longer has any reason to continue their onslaught.

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@violetmadder @palestine @israel As was already the case with the first hostages freed.

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@argumento @palestine @israel

Pro tip: The fact that they massacred civilians and took hostages proves that Hamas is bad.

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If you haven't watched Uncivilized videos, you really should:

Why Kidnaps Children (Jewish Ones Too)

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https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=thWFCrl6ZiU

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Israel apologist are either morally bankrupt or simply brainwashed by propaganda.

NOTHING justifies a genocide.

NOTHING justifies apartheid.

NOTHING justifies ethnic cleansing.

NOTHING justifies settler colonialism.

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@argumento @palestine @israel

The most important thing in the world justifies those things: people with more stuff and money than they'll ever need always demand more and people are always willing to give it to them. Cultural stupidity justifies it. And where do people get cultural stupidity? No, not from politicians. They just exploit it. People get it from RELIGION.

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@Weanerdog @palestine @israel

Then challenge yourself to look at both sides, and that includes the entire Jewish history of struggling to survive.

You are the one suffering the dissonance because I've read all I can about both sides and I continue every day.

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@tzafrir @hanscees @DropBear @sentient_water @ThinkIsrael @PeterLG @Mary625 @gee8sh @palestine @israel

What you're saying is a baseless myth. Palestinians are the original inhabitants of the land, and so they where when European colonial migration started in the early XX Century. Defending your land and trying to curtail colonial migration, a migration that has for goal to impoverish you and your community to move them out, can't be called "ethnic cleansing". Get out of here.

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@tzafrir @ThinkIsrael @hanscees @DropBear @sentient_water @PeterLG @gee8sh @palestine @israel

That's okay. Israel will claim the land as its own in another land grab.

Or are you speaking inside the fenced areas in the West Bank where people can't leave without permission?

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@Mary625 @tzafrir @hanscees @DropBear @sentient_water @PeterLG @gee8sh @palestine @israel

Areas are fenced off in the West Bank to prevent terrorist attacks. Are you aware that if Jews go to Arab sections in the West Bank, like Ramallah, they'd be killed on sight? Why is it OK for over 2 million Arabs to live on one side of the 1949 line, but it's completely unacceptable for any Jews to live on the other side of the 1949 line?

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