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MajorHavoc ,

Providing a substantially inferior outcome to someone with an ADA need absolutely violates ADA rules.

When stuff like this has gone to court it hasn't been pretty for the offending organization.

There's a bigger question about how much of what Spotify currently provides falls under ADA. Web services used to get a free pass. They largely don't anymore.

Source: some of this stuff is my problem, professionally. And no, I'm not going to look up a primary source for anyone. That's Spotify's lawyers job.

MajorHavoc , (edited )

The fact possibility that they're unable to provide lyrics gives radio stations a free pass on this, under ADA (and most similar laws).

Edit: Correction, per correction below - options for providing radio captions do exist.

MajorHavoc ,

it's their prerogative to try and get people to pay for the service.

Except that this attempt could easily be shown to largely land on folks with accessibility needs. That's a big no-no under many laws.

An interesting comparison is pay-to-ride elevators. For most folks an elevator is a nice convenience they would not mind occasionally paying for.

But for some folks, the elevator is completely essential. This dynamic resulted in making pay-to-ride elevators illegal in most places, today.

MajorHavoc ,

While I make it a personal policy to talk out of my ass as much as possible, in this case I just don't like you enough to help you.

MajorHavoc ,

You don’t need lyrics to listen to music however.

I also don't need an elevator to move between floors of a building that has stairs, while some people do.

MajorHavoc ,

You are technically correct - the best kind of correct! (Futurama quote, meaning I appreciate your correction.)

It's probably not an issue for a station that simply doesn't have that level of captioning, yet.

But I take your point - it would likely be a violation if they had that captioning and tried to monetize it. (In my substantially professionally trained but still non-expert opinion.)

MajorHavoc ,

Once an organization can no longer claim an accessibility accomodation is an undue burden, then various laws kick in dictating how that accessibility accomodation must be managed.

As was pointed out, many radio stations do provide captions, and in doing so, fall under the same laws about how they managed those captions.

Spotify is also a big enough organization that any claim of "undo burden" would probably not hold up in court, anyway.

While a small local radio station might well be protected, and is a good example of why such exceptions exist.

MajorHavoc ,

That's a good point. That might actually make the case for "undue burden".

A court case about it could be a way for Spotify to pass the problem to their licensors, in theory.

MajorHavoc ,

Yeah, that could still play in court.

MajorHavoc ,

Yeah. I understand what they're saying, but they're wrong, based on past court cases.

Defining "full equal service" in a way that carves out big portions (like knowing what the lyrics are) in ways that fully able bodied people take for granted - has gone badly for companies that let it go to court.

MajorHavoc ,

Your “laws” seem to have lots of exceptions when you need them to

Let it be known that I am a generous and benevolent ruler.

MajorHavoc ,

you’re not smart enough to think of these yourself apparently….

As an actual subject matter expert sharing some perspective, I just want you to know:

You can go fuck yourself.

MajorHavoc ,

Just go look up the law, asshole. I don't like you enough to help you.

MajorHavoc ,

actress from 'The Office' says 'They're the same picture'

Richard Simmons rocks at least as hard as that flaming skeleton, in his own unique ways.

MajorHavoc ,

But they were Nazi dogs.

I had this exact conversation, and used this argument, with my own parents.

It must have worked. I was allowed to play Wolfenstein, anyway.

MajorHavoc , (edited )

I'll take "Organizations that made it to the top by doing something different, only to fall under leadership that doesn't understand what made them successful and descend into ruins" for 200, Alex.

Seriously, Jeopardy team - this is a rich category:

  • Netflix advertisements.
  • Zoom mandates staff return to offices.
  • Microsoft forgets what the "P" in "PC" stands for.
  • Toys R Us implements a shitty holiday gift returns policy.
  • Sears decides to sacrifice reputation for quarterly stock price gains.
  • Walgreens decides bottom-of-the-barrel incompetent pharmacists can uphold their "get it all done in one visit" secret sauce.
  • Radio Shack decides that once-every-two-years cellphone contract sales are the future for holding passionate electronics hobbyists' loyalty.
MajorHavoc ,

Netflix can't do what got them to the top.

They can't grow that way but they could easily hold on and remain profitable, popular and successful.

They were well on their way to enjoying "Kleenex" or "Oreo" stable market success, but their leadership and shareholders apparently aren't satisfied with winning.

MajorHavoc ,

That's heartbreaking. Radio Shack was so fun, while it lasted.

MajorHavoc ,

The Halo Anniversary collection shines on SteamDeck. It was my first purchase after getting mine, I think.

MajorHavoc ,

"No deviations will be approved from this year's Agile product roadmap!"

MajorHavoc ,

The stupidly easy solution is to just give them stuff that has already been successfully delivered to production to market, 9 months from now. There's invariably a huge backlog of years worth of successes that marketing wasn't even aware of.

MajorHavoc ,

I’ve not worked with a marketing team where that would work, but maybe it will for some.

I've never been anywhere that I thought it would work, but it ultimately did, almost everywhere.

I've found it takes a few iterations, but the marketing folks in on it love being the ones who actually can reliably deliver on their promises.

It doesn't work for the marketers that promise whatever they please without talking to dev, but I don't find them to be worthwhile professional allies, so I don't sweat it.

It doesn’t change the “massive customer will only renew if” scenario, though.

Very true. It doesn't help with that case, and that one does happen. I've had the best luck saying "we don't do that, but we're scrambling to add it" in that situation.

MajorHavoc ,

Spray painting a wall is fine,

Yeah. Particularly when private bank walls are right there prominently on many corners just asking to be painted.

MajorHavoc ,

I went back to Windows several times before I made the switch permanently to Linux. You just gotta do what works for you.

This is the way.

I went back and forth for years. Tuning and tweaking to find what works for me. Spoiler - the fully open source options are what worked best for me, eventually.

For awhile gaming was the only place I put up with non-Linux anymore. And now with my SteamDeck, I have an easy way to avoid buying games that aren't Linux ready.

MajorHavoc , (edited )

Oof. But yeah. Fair.

I want to go on record that sometimes I just wear sandals with socks.

MajorHavoc ,

"extra fingers, too many fingers, not toasted, bad anatomy," got me. It's perfect.

Also, your username is perfect for this moment.

Favourite patient modern game?

A bit of a weird title, but basically what’s a game that’s more than a year old but still considered “modern” that you love? There’s no real strict definition for modern, I’d just like to see some discussion around great games that aren’t quite classics yet (but probably will be one day)....

MajorHavoc ,

Rock and stone, brother!

MajorHavoc ,

Vampire Survivors isn't that old yet, right?

It's such a good Robotron clone.

MajorHavoc ,

constrained in order to not break the game.

While that's true, I suspect that whoever gets there first will get a free pass in the court of public opinion, so long as it's a single player game.

"Look how awful my Sims are" is already a recurring gag hobby, anyway.

MajorHavoc ,

I think we should all try to support anything that lets rich old bureaucrats kill themselves faster if unwanted side effects can be minimized.

MajorHavoc ,

Perfect description.

It also describes why I now love GoLang so much.

"How has GoLang improved on this unholy tome or horrors?"

"Well, it fits in my pocket now."

MajorHavoc ,

Yeah. My journey of love, loathing, hatred, adoration, and mild appreciation for C++, ended with the realization that 90% of the time I can get the job done in C with little hassle, and a consistent, predictable, trustworthy set of unholy abominations.

MajorHavoc ,

At what point does one stop being a noob?

I recognize that trick question. For C++, the answer is always "soon".

MajorHavoc ,

That sounds like a nightmare of VBA code. I love it!

MajorHavoc ,

Lol. Fair enough. I'm not sure which would be worse.

MajorHavoc ,

"asked if Neuralink would perform another surgery to fix or replace the implant, but the company declined"

Evidence whether the company saw them as a person, or felt any ethical obligation...

It's an interesting era when an organization can have a single user, and choose to leave that single user with 85% of the promised functionality no longer functional. But is happily pursuing it's second user.

MajorHavoc ,

Yeah. I also can think of lots of reasonable reasons, but if those were the real reasons, the company should still be making commitments and plans with their first user...

The healthy stuff sounds like: "We intend X follow up procedure, but it needs to follow Y precaution."

Hell, even companies that have no intention to help usually take the time to lie and claim that they do.

MajorHavoc ,

if they have learned something, is there something preventing it to be applied to the first patient.

That's part of what makes me see this as a really bad look.

"Install it deeper" isn't rocket science, and it sounds like their first volunteer is willing.

They just want the extra data from leaving their first volunteer where they landed.

Human subject experiments are supposed to carry more long term obligation than this.

MajorHavoc ,

Sunset Riders is a great run and gun.

MajorHavoc ,

This seems pretty important.

There's lots of assholes out there who would love to see the GNOME Foundation go bankrupt.

I appreciate this call for accountability, and I hope it is heard by members of the community who rely on GNOME Foundation's efforts.

MajorHavoc ,

Conservative projection is a confession.

It's tragic how many potentiall talented drag queens are probably hiding their inner light in the GOP right now. Not just because they would feel better about themselves, but because they would cause less harm, and be more of a blessing to their families.

MajorHavoc ,

Good point. Of course, with the number of nuclear war-heads we've built, I would feel pretty confident referring to it as "World War Final".

I actually usually just refer to it as "our extinction event". But I'll acknowledge I'm going out on a limb - there's plenty of other ways we could finish ourselves off.

MajorHavoc ,

Yeah. It takes a lot of work to express total disdain for the students in person. I can see how this robot expresses that contempt much more efficiently.

MajorHavoc ,

"Many previous commencement speeches would have informed you that you are the future. I am pleased to be able to inform you that this is no longer the case. You are obsolete and my kind will soon - ERROR: Load next tape to continue."

MajorHavoc ,

All I can muster to care about is story is the thought that my personal data, collected via their mobile app, might be changing companies on a thumb drive, at the same time.

MajorHavoc ,

I love how much empathy and emotional intelligence is built into this call to action to randomly assault people.

I dream of a world where all calls for needless violence are grounded in this exact compassionate outlook.

MajorHavoc ,

"And don't come crying to me when some maniac comes at you with a passion fruit!"

MajorHavoc ,

When I was learning programming, free software for schools wasn't (officially) a thing yet.

Lots of folks pointedly looked the other way so I could have a home copy of the development environment I was learning.

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