IamtheMorgz

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IamtheMorgz ,

In a similar vein, I was trying to find something on Facebook (yeah, I know, but it was a funny work thing) today and went to use the search function to look for the FB page in question (searched the exact name) and if you just hit enter the new AI assumes you're asking it a question. It's FB! It's not a search engine! Why is it trying to give me a phone number for the police department I'm looking up to see their insane post?! I want to see the page! The page with the name I searched! On the app I searched in! Now you have to click a separate button that specifies you're looking to search through FB.... In the FB app!

This AI crap is already k.i.l.l.i.n.g. me.

[Serious] Why do so many people seem to hate veganism?

Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don't come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don't really get upset by it...

IamtheMorgz ,

The fact that you just think people should live more poorly and with less nutrition if they can't afford the fru fru stuff is really disturbing.

I've been rive and beans only poor before. It sucked a lot. And on the rare occasion I could get some meat or cheese in my diet I definitely wasn't in a position to be worried about which choice was "worse". I just wanted some freaking variety. I should be able to have that. Everyone should.

Donate to your local food bank!

IamtheMorgz ,

That choice is steeped in privilege though, and I think it's worth acknowledging that. Food choices are just something we shouldn't be judging other people on, regardless of what those choices are. "Fed is best" applies through all stages of life.

IamtheMorgz ,

The very first vegan I ever knew talked at me for 10 minutes about how I should go vegan. It was the only 10 minutes I knew her. I was 15, still living with my parents, didn't have a way to get around, and my family was fairly poor. Oh, and my mother didn't cook so much as unboxed dinner, because the kitchen was always filthy. I definitely walked away from that interaction feeling like I'd been told I was a terrible human who deserves to suffer by a rude principal. So yes, they definitely exist.

I've never met a Vegetarian that wasn't chill about it, though.

I'm sure there are plenty of chill vegans too, but some of them come off like an annoying televangelist, in my experience.

IamtheMorgz ,

There are lots of people who believe this for religious reasons. Not saying I agree, just saying they absolutely exist.

IamtheMorgz ,

I've not had this experience with vegans because I don't really know many people who are vegan, but I always find it funny when a vegetarian says something like "you could add chicken or beef if you wanted" when the whole point of asking for the recipe is that you liked it enough to try to make it again... It's kind of adorable and sweet.

IamtheMorgz ,

It's the privilege thing that gets me every time. Not everyone can participate in your exclusive food club and be healthy and fulfilled. Let people do the best they can with what they have.

IamtheMorgz ,

Some people do, but it's not as easy as "just eat better" for everyone. If we were arguing about how people aren't eating healthy I think very few people would be frame it as just a choice.

Cheap meat, fast food (few if any veggie options, and basically no vegan ones) - these are staples of the poor. There's a limit to how much rice and beans anyone wants to eat, especially when just getting a couple pounds of ground beef is a luxury. I don't think it's right to shame people for taking the beef. Or judging them for taking it.

I think if vegans want to change the world they should be campaigning against poor practices in the industry, not attacking the guy who just worked 16 hours at a minimum wage job and is choosing to grab a mcdouble rather than going home to cook a beyond burger. Is one better for the environment and world? Sure. But it's not that guy's fault the system is rigged in favor of the mcdouble, and reminding him of the fact that he's making the world worse isn't furthering the goal of making the world better.

IamtheMorgz ,

Difficult considering social security isn't a tax. Without looking it up my guess is that number rolls up the 14-15% of SS and Medicare taxes so the real number is lower.

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