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"... the victory of Judeo-Christian civilization against barbarism"?
šŸ¤”
Barbarism is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. Which is barbaric, history will judge.
https://www.gov.il/en/pages/spoke-ft1300524





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  • mondoweiss , to palestine group
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    Joe Biden's claim that Hamasā€™s October 7 attacks were ā€œdriven by ancient desire to wipe out the Jewish people" is ahistorical and dangerous. In fact, Jewish history shows that antisemitism is a Western problem.

    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/the-ancient-desire-to-kill-jews-is-not-hamass-its-the-wests/


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    @Terris
    The Romans were in there too - and before that, the Assyrians.
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    Deny their existence @KormaChameleon and when they stubbornly keep on existing, deny their humanity.



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    ā€œMore than 300 employees of federal, state and local governments sign letter warning against Australiaā€™s ā€˜complicityā€™ in war crimesā€

    ā€œOur major concern is that as public servants we have a responsibility to the Australian people to reflect and serve their interests, and an overwhelming majority of them do not want this to be happening.ā€
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/may/30/australia-public-servant-open-letter-israel-weapons-military-war-gaza-rafah




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    Public Service Association of NSW (Australia) demands Australian government action against Israel.




    https://x.com/PSAforPalestine/status/1796008820352622676
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    "... the Jewish Council of Australia calls on the Government to immediately cut all military ties and place sanctions on Israel.

    The Albanese Government must also place travel bans on extremist settlers and those suspected of war crimes. These actions would be in line with Australiaā€™s obligations as a signatory to the Genocide Convention."

    "Dr Max Kaiser, Executive Officer, Jewish Council of Australia

    With each passing day, it becomes clearer that Israel is a rogue state. We say this as part of a large and growing number of Jews ā€“ in Australia and around the world ā€“ who have been calling for a ceasefire for many months, and saying that Israelā€™s actions are completely incompatible with our Jewish values."
    https://www.jewishcouncil.com.au/media/rafah-massacre-demonstrates-urgent-need-to-cut-ties-and-sanction-israel






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    In Australia, we don't really know what our Jewish community thinks @MyView
    All recent polling has been conducted by highly biased bodies and on small, decidedly skewed samples. There has been only one study conducted since October 7. Results were due in December, but none have been published.
    https://johnmenadue.com/we-dont-know-what-australian-jews-think-about-the-war-in-gaza-or-the-student-protests/






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    There are indeed many Australian Jewish "communities" @InternetDev
    Our problem is that few are being heard.






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    For me, Hind is the face of the Zionists' genocide @TanyaGKasim
    Her fate and that of far too many children of Gaza is why we must keep striving for the dismantling of the Zionist state.

    If the world does not learn that there are consequences to such behaviour, then you're quite right. We are likely to share the fate of Palestinians.





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    DropBear , to palestine group
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    Pandora's box? Interesting analogy.

    When Pandora's box was opened, all the evils of the world were released. Pandora quickly reclosed the box. Only one thing was left behind. Some translations say it was hope. Others, "deceptive expectation".
    https://www.facebook.com/oneforIsrael/posts/pfbid09czpZ622LfPLF68vmDyCwy54rfdv9E1A9iGcpsJ3GQMYxpuGj2f97MsaDjAx3m5Jl


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  • DropBear , to palestine group
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    Cathy Wilcox cartoon 23 May 2024
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    Canadaā€™s largest private high school recently organized a genocide solidarity trip in which students cooked for Israeli soldiers. In a sane world, the schoolā€™s charitable status would be revoked.

    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/toronto-school-promoting-israeli-military-deemed-charity/


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    "genocide of Israelis" @EyalL ? The ICJ finds Israel's bloodthirsty reaction prima facie genocide.

    Your profile indicates that you're Israeli:
    "Worried about the rise of fascism." Israeli Zionism pre-dates Fascism and Nazism. The parallels suggest that the latter are offspring of Zionism. Fascism is undeniably rising in Israel, but it's been evident from the very beginning.
    "Worried more about inhumane murderers just km from me, who murdered 1500 people in cold blood, in 1 day." You'd be better off worrying about the inhumane murderers who are your fellow citizens.

    As an Israeli, you naturally want to keep your ill-gotten gains. For Jews in general, that's probably not best.

    While the Zionist state exists, Jews worldwide are less safe. As such, Israel is todays most effective antisemitism.




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    Eco's definition of "eternal" is rather idiosyncratic @heretical_i :blobcat_thinkingsmirk:

    The roots of Zionism can be traced to the early 17th century. Until relatively recently, it was a gentile concept. Jews didn't start using the term in relation to themselves until very late in the 19th century. Jewish Zionism comes in many forms. The form that spawned Israel dates to that time period.

    Fascism was founded during World War I by Italian national syndicalists who drew upon both left-wing organizational tactics and right-wing political views. Italian Fascism gravitated to the right in the early 1920s.

    Much as Nazism sprang from Fascism, it seems Fascism is very closely related to the Israeli form of Zionism.





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    Indeed @heretical_i Nazism, Fascism and Israeli Zionism share a common origin.

    While the Zionist state exists, Jews worldwide are less safe.
    As Yarden Katz wrote:
    "... the dismantling of Israel and the liberation of Palestine must also be a Jewish struggle ā€” a struggle that should go far beyond Jews showing solidarity for Palestinians or simply not wanting to be oppressors. ā€œIsraeliā€ is a colonial identity that should be renounced, not just because it harms Palestinians but also because it is deeply anti-Jewish."
    https://mondoweiss.net/2023/11/are-israelis-jews-returning-to-jewish-minority-life/





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    DropBear ,
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    It looks like @EyalL has blocked me. Here is the reply that I was going to send him:
    Israeli Zionism (as distinct from other forms of Zionism, Jewish and otherwise) is the notion that someone who claims to be Jewish is entitled to take the home of a Palestinian, solely because they claim to be Jewish. Such injustices precipitated the October 7 atrocities and continue to endanger Jews worldwide.

    Abuse of the term "antisemitism" has effectively neutered the concept. Here's a definition for you:
    https://jerusalemdeclaration.org/

    As Miko Peled observed, Israel and Palestine are the same place. He believes that Jews and Arabs can live together peacefully. That may be true, but by all appearances, it's true of probably less than 20% of the population. You are evidently not among that 20%, @EyalL.






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    For those who don't know, Bob Carr is a retired Australian Labor Party politician.




    https://x.com/bobjcarr/status/1793081116322386081
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    They've certainly made Israel a liability for Jewish people @otte_homan
    While the Zionist state exists, Jews around the world will be less safe.



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    faab64 , to palestine group

    WTAF: Secretary of State warned if United Nations recognizes as an independent State, United States, allies and affiliated businessmen will cut funding for , thus cutting United Nations ability to run huminitarian aid for Global South countries.

    He is threatening the world on behalf of , while pretending that they support a 2 state solution.

    This is the most outrageous comment I've ever read from Blinken. I'm not sure if it's accurate, because the only source is the post on ShiTwitter:https://x.com/halalflow/status/1792944530389393422


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    @faab64
    Apparently, it's in this video:
    https://youtu.be/u_FnTyAl3po
    I don't have the bandwidth to watch it.
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    amnogues , to anthropology group Spanish
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    Question for law scholars:

    The can issue for signatories countries an arrest warrant on because it has jurisdiction over international crimes committed in since 2012

    BUT

    If doesn't recognise the , its territory isn't included in the jurisdiction, and the crimes of Hamas where carried out there, then how can the issue a legally binding arrest warrant on Hamas leaders?

    ThanksšŸ˜€

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    @amnogues
    "If doesn't recognise the , its territory isn't included in the jurisdiction,"
    That raises a couple of complications.

    First, ICC warrants are ineffective, unless the subject of a warrant enters territory in which the warrant is recognised. If the subject of a warrant enters a state that has signed the Rome Statute and enacted complementary & cooperation legislation, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_parties_to_the_Rome_Statute then they will be arrested and extradited for trial.

    The question of territory is interesting. As far as I can tell, Israel has never declared its borders. Technically therefore, Israel has no territory.
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    oatmeal , to palestine group
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    / Prosecutor asks for arrest warrants for three leading Hamas leaders, as well ass Netanyahu and Galant

    [...] The office of the prosecutor of the International Criminal Court on Monday said it was seeking arrest warrants against three leading Hamas militants for their alleged roles in the Oct. 7 attacks in Israel, for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/icc-prosecutor-asks-arrest-warrants-three-leading-hammas-leaders-2024-05-20/

    Watch: ICC Prosecutor Karim Khan explains the charges against top Hamas and Israeli leadership in detail in this excerpt from his interview with @amanpour this morning at The Hague

    https://twitter.com/cnnipr/status/1792508639640502587

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    ICC Prosecutor Karim Khan explains the charges against top Hamas and Israeli leadership in detail in this excerpt from his interview with @amanpour this morning at The Hague.

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    There are a lot of them@[email protected]
    I hope you reported it as well.





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    "The strategy utilised by the Zionist Establishment within Jewish communities and outside these communities, particularly, in the United States, England, France, Germany and Australia is to engage in an intentional falsification of history and contemporary reality when it comes to the supposedly intractable conflict between Israel and the Palestinians."
    ...
    "As the world witnessed in the case of the destruction of the highly probable victory of Jeremy Corbyn becoming British Prime Minister, these campaigns of destroying opponents of Israeli ethnic cleansing have been extremely potent and successful.

    It is, therefore, imperative that all people opposed to this war of annihilation of the Palestinian people must make sure that this current campaign which aims to destroy any opposition to the Gazan genocide is decisively defeated."









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    The Zionist lobby is rich and influential @TanyaGKasim
    They must be exposed and controlled.









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    "University leaders need to reject the deceitful narrative that the anti-war protests make staff and students unsafe, and instead listen to students who are urging their institutions to stand on the right side of history."
    https://www.jewishcouncil.com.au/media/jewish-council-calls-for-universities-to-immediately-halt-actions-against-anti-war-students







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    "I ask our prime minister and our fellow parliamentarians: how many international rights laws must Israel break for us to say enough? How many lives does it take to call this a genocide?" Senator Payman asked.

    "I see our leaders performatively gesture defending the oppressors' right to oppress while gaslighting the global community about [Israel's] rights of self-defence."
    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/albanese-labels-words-of-government-senator-who-broke-ranks-to-accuse-israel-of-genocide-not-appropriate/ar-BB1msAsw




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    @Smith007 is a very new account. It seems to be dedicated to 'hasbara'. Posts from that account don't show readily for me, but there are ways. šŸ˜‰

    I'll just repeat what Yarden Katz wrote:
    "Anyone wishing to understand how the Holocaust was possible, how people who may be warm and kind in their personal lives could support the murder of an entire population deemed subhuman, should examine Israeli society."

    "... the zionist project, culminating in Israel, is profoundly contrary to Jewish traditions ... Israel has suppressed these Jewish traditions and ways of living while hijacking parts of them when convenient."

    "... the dismantling of Israel and the liberation of Palestine must also be a Jewish struggle ā€” ... ā€œIsraeliā€ is a colonial identity that should be renounced, not just because it harms Palestinians but also because it is deeply anti-Jewish."
    https://mondoweiss.net/2023/11/are-israelis-jews-returning-to-jewish-minority-life/




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    oatmeal , to israel group
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    / Settlers looted and desecrated food intended for Gaza in front of soldiers, peace activists were attacked, and two trucks were set on fire

    Dozens of settlers and far-right Israelis looted yesterday the humanitarian aid trucks making their way to the Strip through the Tarqumiya crossing near Hebron. The humanitarian aid was blocked at two points in the area south and west of Hebron Hill - near the Tarqumiya checkpoint and near the Negohot settlement. After being blocked and looted, two trucks were set on fire near the Tarqumiya checkpoint.ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹

    B'Tselem stated that the looting continued for hours, "in front of soldiers and police officers, as well as security personnel at the crossing, who did not lift a finger to stop the desecration of food. This conduct by the Israeli authorities grossly violates the interim orders of the International Court of Justice, which demanded that Israel allow the supply of humanitarian aid to Gaza."ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹ā€‹

    H/t Zoha

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    @oatmeal @palestine @israel Parallels with 1930s Germany are remarkable.

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    Israeli society is acutely diseased @JapanProf
    They indoctrinate their children from an early age.

    Things like this sadden me deeply:
    https://youtu.be/sUpm2jGJc18
    The video is horrifying, but has been fact-checked and substantiated. It is what it appears to be.






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    @JapanProf
    "A land without people for a people without a land" that's the catch-cry of Israeli Zionism. From the beginning, they denied the existence of Palestinians. Evidently, the intent was always to eliminate the existing population.

    This is Tel Aviv born Jewish Israeli journalist Gideon Levy, speaking in 2015:
    https://youtu.be/DGO3eBxQX7Q&t=632






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    I think it's more fundamental than that @peterbrown
    From the beginning in the 19th century, when those who eventually created Israel combined aspects of Christian Zionism with aspects of Judaism to create their ideology, they denied the existence of Palestinians. When Palestinians stubbornly continued to exist, that ideology denied their humanity. Eliminating the existing population of Palestine is fundamental to the very essence of Israel.






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    DropBear , to palestine group
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    I've seen this sentiment expressed in many ways. There are indeed remarkable parallels, but the Zionism that spawned Israel was around long before Nazism. It might be more accurate to say that Nazism is an offspring of Israeli Zionism.





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    "... as Chris Hedges often says, ā€˜Israel lies.ā€™ And in the present climate the lies are not only bellicose and incendiary, but galling to a Jew like me who grew up in a time of intense antisemitism."
    ...
    "The Executive Council of Australian Jewry has figures for an exponential rise in antisemitic incidents over the past months. Iā€™m not examining the figures ā€“ numbers arenā€™t exactly my forte. But itā€™s curious that so little attempt is made by them, or pro-Zionist organisations like them, to correlate this rise with Israelā€™s ongoing oppression of the Palestinian people and its culmination in one of historyā€™s most horrific human tragedies.

    One thing is certain, none of us can expect to be ā€˜safeā€™ now.

    Because of Israel."
    https://johnmenadue.com/because-of-israel-jewish-people-are-no-longer-safe/




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    Racist undercurrents in Australian society should not be downplayed @faab64
    To some degree, we're all subject to it. Yes, even white Anglo-Protestants.

    Specific to Islamophobia though, there's one influence that recent events have highlit.







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    If you're Australian, then please sign.

    A petition to the Parliament of Australia:
    "The ongoing violence and oppression against Palestinians by the Israeli government violate fundamental human rights principles. The disproportionate use of force, illegal settlements, and blockade of Gaza have resulted in immense suffering and loss of life. Our nation should not support regimes engaged in such violations. Action Requested: We urge the Prime Minister to take a principled stand against the Israeli government's actions by severing diplomatic ties, ending military support, and condemning human rights abuses in Palestine."
    https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN6106







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    @sunnyboy747
    The full ink is here:
    https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN6106 Signatures close tonight.

    A petition to the Parliament of Australia:
    "The ongoing violence and oppression against Palestinians by the Israeli government violate fundamental human rights principles. The disproportionate use of force, illegal settlements, and blockade of Gaza have resulted in immense suffering and loss of life. Our nation should not support regimes engaged in such violations. Action Requested: We urge the Prime Minister to take a principled stand against the Israeli government's actions by severing diplomatic ties, ending military support, and condemning human rights abuses in Palestine."







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    Biden threatens to stop sending "certain weapons" to Israel.

    But for the upcoming election, would he instead be unstintingly supporting the Zionist State's genocide?
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/biden-weapons-shipment-israel-pause-1.7197445







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    For me, Hind Rajab is symbolic @strypey
    Totally innocent.
    Left to die, surrounded by corpses.





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    Remember Hind Rajab. Right-wing media would prefer that you never knew.





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    https://youtu.be/ZuLWQLjp6aI

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