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Coming from a man who was born in Israel, this has some credibility:
"Whether people welcome the idea or dread it, the collapse of Israel has become foreseeable. This possibility should inform the long-term conversation about the region’s future."
https://newleftreview.org/sidecar/posts/the-collapse-of-zionism


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David Pope, "The Echidna" newsletter, 27 June 2024.
Labor senator Fatima Payman defied her own Party to vote in favour of Australia recognising a Palestinian state.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/jun/27/fatima-payman-crossing-floor-labor-group-praise-palestinian-statehood

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  • LukefromDC ,
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    @DropBear @palestine @israel I hope the tank that fired the shells that murdered Hind's parents gets knocked out with the crew stuck inside.

    DropBear OP ,
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    We need a more comprehensive solution @LukefromDC
    The world in general, and Jews in particular, will be safer when the Zionist state no longer exists.

    As Miko Peled observed, Israel and Palestine are the same place. He believes that Jews and Arabs can live together peacefully. That may be true, but by all appearances, it's true of probably less than 20% of the population. The remaining 80% would need to be homed elsewhere.

    Palestine is sacred to more than Judaism and Islam. Ideally, I'd like to see it established as World Heritage. Protected by the world at large and thus needing no armed forces. I can dream, can't I?

    What of the other 80%? Netanyahu advocates a state in Sinai for Palestinians, so let's make that two states. I think of them as sanatoria. Unarmed and heavily guarded, to protect them from each other and the world from them.

    Plus a couple of very large prisons.






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    @DropBear @palestine @israel

    > Al-Wadiya was involved in “the development and advancement of the organization’s missile array,” the military said in a statement.
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    > The IDF said he was also a “source of knowledge” within the Islamic Jihad, in the fields of electronics and chemistry.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-slain-gazan-named-as-doctors-without-borders-staffer-was-islamic-jihad-rocket-maker/

    It will be interesting to see if anybody else can corroborate this.

    oldmanstu ,

    @DropBear @palestine @israel Strange how they sound EXACTLY like the Republicans who project their own evil deeds onto their enemies.
    Justifying their murderous actions in the name of their religion, utterly disgusting.

    DropBear , to palestine group
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    A member of the advisory committee of the Jewish Council of Australia, on antisemitism:
    "The voices of those who are unequivocal in condemning the violence of 7 October while reproaching the disproportionate response to the events, recognise all human suffering and is a start to a dialogical pathway to peace.

    Jews can no longer stand by while distortions of antisemitism are invoked in our name. The refrain of Never Again must return to its true meaning."
    https://johnmenadue.com/who-can-make-the-call-on-anti-semitism/




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    “Does Israel deserve to exist?”
    "... the only reasonable and just reply to that question, a reply now shared by increasing numbers of people, is an unequivocal no."
    https://thefloutist.substack.com/p/back-from-the-west-bank


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    DropBear OP ,
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    I can't claim credit for that article
    @indyradio
    It was written by an American. She went to the West Bank, which is hardly Palestine any more. I guess the Zionists presume that all Americans unquestioningly support them.
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    indyradio ,
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    @DropBear @palestine @israel oops. It's "Cara Marianna", who mis preparing to publish a series of reports as the result of visting"under the radar" as an ordinary citizen rather than a journalist.

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    "We write in sadness and despair at your government’s failure to condemn openly and persistently the Israeli government’s determination to ethnically cleanse Palestine and to cause brutality, famine, death and destruction to a whole people and their country."

    "Reference to Hamas atrocities of October 2023 cannot provide justification for the unhindered genocide committed by Israel in Gaza and on the West Bank. In comparisons of Israel and Hamas, there is no ‘moral equivalence’. Even a cursory reading of history reveals decades of Israeli terrorism and massacres of Palestinians by Israeli forces which far outstrip the Hamas murders of October 2023."
    https://johnmenadue.com/open-letter-to-anthony-albanese-why-collusion-with-this-grotesque-israeli-government/



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    Our gov's response (if they acknowledge it) will be interesting.
    I am heartened to read of so many professors and trust, that regardless of our governments actions, you will ensure future generations learn the truth of the Palestinians/Israeli plight.

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    A petition to the Parliament of Australia, seeking recognition of the State of Palestine, has closed with 129,813 signatures. That's enough signatures for the petition to be presented to the Lower House and referred to the appropriate Minister.
    https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN6173



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  • DropBear , to palestine group
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    Israel was purportedly created as a Jewish "homeland". Trouble is, it was created on lands in which Palestinians had their homes.

    To my mind, "home" is human; "homeland" is Fascist. Israeli Zionism exploited the Fascist concept to deprive Palestinians of their homes.
    https://x.com/caitoz/status/1801441701246157194






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    "Next month, the world will turn its eyes to the Olympics in Paris.

    36,000 of those who could be watching with us from Gaza are dead. Children who once dreamed of competing have had their limbs torn from them."
    https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/olympics_ban_en_rb/





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    Uneek ,
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    @DropBear @palestine @israel Beautiful picture !

    DropBear , to palestine group
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    Who supports the Zionist state and why?
    "...the West needs to show why this Israeli state is grotesque and to ask who in heaven’s name still supports them?"
    https://johnmenadue.com/israel-the-grotesque-who-supports-that-government/








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    From a 93 year old (old enough to have lived through the times of the Holocaust and the founding of Israel) Jewish Australian:
    "The impression I formed then, and which has been confirmed by subsequent events is that there was and is a deep, shared psychosocial illness infecting Israel but not Jews more generally."
    ...
    "Let’s not confuse and generalise the attitude I and others have identified as underlying the conflict between Israel and Palestine with being anti-Semitic. This blurring of a clear boundary has been used inappropriately and misleadingly by many."
    ...
    "... the human slaughter in Gaza and the enormous waste of resources on armaments to further that genocide could be stopped by refusing any more aid to Israel."
    https://johnmenadue.com/israel-palestine-my-personal-experience-and-conversion/








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    DropBear OP ,
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    The indoctrination is alarming @NickSchwanck and sadly few manage to deprogram themselves.

    A recovering Zionist speaks:
    "I have been grieving deeply not just since last October, but ever since I woke up to the reality of what Israel is, and what it stands for."
    ...
    "The Palestinian people did nothing wrong. Their ‘big crime’, for which they are being eliminated is that they happened to live on the land that the Zionists coveted for an exclusively Jewish ghetto state."
    https://avigail.substack.com/p/grief-and-guilt-by-association









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    NickSchwanck ,
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    @DropBear @palestine @israel My ex was never the sharpest tool in the shed. She's deeply right-wing. Migrants are to blame for everything.

    DropBear , to palestine group
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    As Miko Peled observed, Israel and Palestine are the same place. He believes that Jews and Arabs can live together peacefully. That may be true, but by all appearances, it's true of probably less than 20% of the population. The remaining 80% would need to be homed elsewhere.

    Palestine is sacred to more than Judaism and Islam. Ideally, I'd like to see it established as World Heritage. Protected by the world at large and thus needing no armed forces. I can dream, can't I?

    What of the other 80%? Netanyahu advocates a state in Sinai for Palestinians, so let's make that two states. I think of them as sanatoria. Unarmed and heavily guarded, to protect them from each other and the world from them.

    Plus a couple of very large prisons.







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    Below: cartoon by David Pope, "The Echidna" newsletter, 7 June 2024

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    @DropBear @palestine @israel hey FYI you're being targeted by a Zionist account on Babka with claims of antisemitism

    https://babka.social/@8124/112573248882836405

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    Thanks @nus
    The admin of Babka, @serge and I have met (online, not in person). The term "antisemitism" used to be powerful. Zionists have neutered it. Quite sad, really.

    "... formerly an anti-Semite was somebody who hated Jews because they were Jews and due to their Jewish nature and their race… Nowadays an anti-Semite is somebody who is hated by a certain type of Zionist. Like one of the important Nazi leaders, Göring, said, “I determine who is a Jew.” And so the Zionists determine who is an anti-Semite. And as I say, I’m proud to be one of those."
    Dr. Hajo Meyer, Holocaust survivor.
    https://truthout.org/video/interview-with-holocaust-survivor-and-antizionist-activist-dr-hajo-meyer-video/






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    DropBear , to palestine group
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    Israel makes the Jews of the world less safe. Jews, and the world in general will be safer when Israel no longer exists.

    "... in a rare moment of intelligible thought, Frydenberg states “there are sections of the community which see people of the Jewish faith as being synonymous with Israel”. But no sooner does he say this than he returns to the very conflation of Jews and Israel which causes this form of antisemitism to flourish.

    By allowing this deceit to continue, Albanese’s Labor Party is going down a dangerous path of curtailing freedom of expression, fomenting hatred of Jews, and confusing the concept of antisemitism amid a very real fight against genuine anti-Jewish racism. "
    https://generalpublishing.cmail19.com/t/y-e-mzljdl-dkzulkkty-yd/



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    Uneek ,
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    @DropBear @palestine @israel Great article !

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  • Uneek ,
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    @DropBear @Uneek @palestine @israel Yes! What I don’t like about this ordeal is the fact that too many politicians have wasted precious time talking & holding meetings. We need to see action being displayed. If other countries or nations don’t want to stand up for what is right then what exactly are they willing to stand up for? My Goodness Gaza is only so big & I am sick & tired of read articles or news reports of innocent people dying who had nothing to do with the conflict .

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    They were so quick to act on unsubstantiated (and evidently false) Israeli allegations against UNRWA @Uneek
    The ICJ finds a prima facie case of genocide against Israel and our government does nothing. Something is rotten in the state of Australia.







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