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@AndreaLoew Habe ich gerne gemacht, das Buch gefällt mir sehr. Mein Text ist etwas lang geworden, aber ich wollte Kontext dazufügen.

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@AndreaLoew Danke für die Inspiration. Jetzt habe ich den nächsten Lesestoff, jetzt zur lokalen jüdischen Geschichte.

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Pro-Palestinian protest in turns violent after student rally halted.
"Police were seen using batons against protesters to prevent them from marching past the nearby Monument on their way to Amsterdam city centre.
When protesters arrived at a central Amsterdam University location, protesters barricaded the narrow canal-facing road in front of the university buildings."




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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dutch-police-end-pro-palestinian-demonstration-amsterdam-university-2024-05-07/

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Violence against protesters is not good, but neither is protesters refusing to obey lawful authorities. When protesters force their way into areas that impact public safety, and won't disperse when told to, police have no choice but to stop them, using force if necessary. Police are not paid to get hurt or killed and when they are in danger from a mob, the force will escalate. Unfortunately, the agitators usually escape injury and someone else gets hurt.

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The act of protest is never risk free. Taking hostage or using martyr to extract demands is not peaceful protest.
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/ 'Don't trust the Gentiles who make promises'

Still looking for an excuse for a massacre in Rafah, delivered a statement ahead of Holocaust Remembrance Day, saying: "My wife Sara and I met with Holocaust survivors who will light the torches of remembrance this evening. One of them, Michael Bar-On, told us: 'Don't trust the Gentiles who make promises.' He is right."

Netanyahu added that "During the Holocaust, there were great leaders in the world who stood by. The first lesson of the Holocaust is that if we don't defend ourselves - no one will defend us. And if we have to stand alone - we will stand alone."

Netanyahu. who's manifestly NOT an expert on the , drew harsh criticism from Yad Vashem researchers for Holocaust denialism when he claimed that the Final Solution was the idea of Palestinian national leader Hajj Amin al-Husseini.

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בשלב הזה כולם מסכימים שהבן אדם פיסכופת

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אבל אם כבר רמזים, למה לא להזכיר שתיאוריטיקנים אמריקאים אחראים לתאוריות האאוגניות שהזינו את היטלר ושתעשיינים אמריקאים מימנו, תמכו ואפשרו טכנית את ההוצאה לפועל של השואה? יהיה מעניין לראות כמה רפובליקנים אמריקאים ימשיכו לתמוך בישראל לאחר מכן... בינתיים הוא מנסה להכנס בביידן ספציפית עם כל הזהירות המתבקשת...

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Today in Labor History April 30 1945: Eva Braun and Adolph Hitler committed suicide, in Berlin, after being married for less than 40 hours. Many Nazis were tried, convicted and executed. And literally thousands were secreted into the U.S., given false identities, and put to work as spies, intelligence officers, informants, and rocket scientists in the Cold War. Some of them had even been high-ranking Nazi Party officials, secret police chiefs, and heads of concentration camps. In fact, during the first few years after WWII ended, it was easier to get into the U.S. as a Nazi than it was as a Jewish concentration camp survivor. There were policy makers in Washington who said the Jews shouldn’t be let in because they’re “lazy” and “self-entitled.” For more on this sordid history, read “The Nazis Next Door
How America Became a Safe Haven for Hitler's Men,” By Eric Lichtblau.

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Yes, he was perhaps, the most infamous of these examples

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/ “The Shoah after Gaza” (Pankaj Mishra)

After rejecting the suggestion that the October 7th massacre should be understood in context, many pro-War supporters of Israel now claim that its actions in Gaza should also be understood “in context” (presumably self defense or right to exist etc.) But there are of course fundamental differences. Israel is an occupyer. It’s not “defending itself” it’s fighting to continue the occupation of Palestinian lands, while subjugating millions of people to life of misery and hopelessness.

Historically, Palestinians’ right for self determination was ignored at the first opportunity such a question needed to be discussed, at the end of WWI, prioritizing Western interests in the Middle East over anything else. This is the context in which understand Pankaj Mishra’s essay.

From the abstract:

Memories of Jewish suffering at the hands of Nazis are the foundation on which most descriptions of extreme ideology and atrocity, and most demands for recognition and reparations, have been built. Universalist reference points are in danger of disappearing as the Israeli military massacres and starves Palestinians, while denouncing as antisemitic or champions of Hamas all those who plead with it to desist.

——

Among other things, Mishra argues that the Israeli occupation of Gaza fosters a system of domination similar to Nazi Germany, generating "counter-memory" narratives that attempt to erase the suffering of Palestinians (a direct result of the Nakba and the ongoing occupation of Palestine).

Two argument struck me as powerful in this comparison, since they’re intuitive and well understood (at least by anyone who passed through the Israeli education system, or served in the army), regardless of everything else discussed in the essay:

  1. Israeli narratives demonize Palestinians and justify occupation through security concerns.

  2. The international community's silence and selective condemnation empower the Israeli occupation.

Two points that happen to echo the rise of Nazi germany and the world’s indifference to the .

Mishra, Pankaj. “The Shoah after Gaza.” London Review of Books, vol. 46, no. 06, 1 Mar. 2024. www.lrb.co.uk, https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v46/n06/pankaj-mishra/the-shoah-after-gaza.

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from
Why the Must Reject the Dangerous

The bill could be used to crush legitimate debate about , its policies, and policies toward it—policies that have given rise to one of the greatest acts of genocide since the .





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https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/antisemitism-awareness-act

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Today in Writing History June 10, 1928: Maurice Sendak, author of “Where the Wild Things Are,” was born in Brooklyn, New York. A little boy once sent him a card with a drawing on it. Sendak was so moved he sent the boy another letter with his own personal “Wild Thing” drawn on it. The boy’s mother sent Sendak a thank you note saying that her son loved the card so much he ate it. Sendak considered that one of the highest compliments he ever received. Sendak was an atheist Jew who lost numerous family members in the Holocaust. He was also gay.

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Reinhard , one of the architects of the , died in 1942, from wounds inflicted by Czech SOE agents during an ambush some days earlier.

Nazi retailiation was brutal, notably including the complete destruction of - Hitler wanted the memory of the village to die. But miners in and had other ideas.
https://russellphillips.uk/books/heydrich-lidice/


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Reinhard , one of the architects of the , died in 1942, from wounds inflicted by Czech SOE agents during an ambush some days earlier.

Nazi retailiation was brutal, notably including the complete destruction of - Hitler wanted the memory of the village to die. But miners in and had other ideas.
https://russellphillips.uk/books/heydrich-lidice/


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A survivor in spoke in defense of student protesters in :

"Your encampment is a threat to the global witch hunt campaign (IHRA) to change the meaning of anti-Semitism (Being against because they are Jews). The campaign attacks you as anti-Semitic because you criticize racist apartheid. The IHRA opposes the wearing of the Kyffeyeh and persecutes all defenders of freedom."

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Ich habe eine Frage an die Leute, die gesagt haben: "Wenn sie die Geiseln freilassen, werden die Bombardierungen aufhören". Was ist nun das Argument, nachdem die IDF die Freilassung aller Geiseln abgelehnt hat? Ist Ihnen jetzt klar, dass es nie um die Geiseln ging?

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AndreaLoew , to histodons group German
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"Die Historikerin Andrea Löw hat erschütternde Dokumente deportierter deutscher und österreichischer Juden zusammengestellt. Die Schriften vermitteln einen Eindruck von der unfassbaren Entfremdung und Erniedrigung im Holocaust", schreibt Konstantin Sakkas heute im Tagesspiegel:


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https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wissen/meine-arme-mutter-ist-bereits-gestorben-briefe-und-aufzeichnungen-vom-grauen-der-judenvernichtung-11597516.html

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Daily reminder that The Most Moral Army of the so-called ( ) State tied up (men, women, and children) and medical staff at Hospital in and executed them in cold blood before dumping their bodies in a mass grave.

And /they/ are the victims, apparently.






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