gfkdsgn , to palestine group German
@gfkdsgn@burma.social avatar

“Everything about Israel is fake. It’s a completely synthetic nation created without any regard for the organic sociopolitical movements of the land and its people, slapped rootless atop an ancient pre-existing civilization with deep roots. That’s why it cannot exist without being artificially propped up by nonstop propaganda, lobbying, online influence operations, and mass military violence.”

https://www.globalresearch.ca/everything-israel-fake/5859666

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DropBear , to palestine group
@DropBear@theblower.au avatar

Israel was purportedly created as a Jewish "homeland". Trouble is, it was created on lands in which Palestinians had their homes.

To my mind, "home" is human; "homeland" is Fascist. Israeli Zionism exploited the Fascist concept to deprive Palestinians of their homes.
https://x.com/caitoz/status/1801441701246157194






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faab64 , to palestine group

Can you blame them?

They know that the words of US and Israel is not even worth a dog fart so they want to sign an agreement with international backers in order to have some kind of guarantees. Not that any of those countries will lift a finger to help the Palestinians when (not if, but when) Israel breaks the agreement.

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nus , to palestine group
@nus@mstdn.social avatar

The loosely moderated comment section of can be rather eye-opening.

Now that the UN has ruled, Israel is committing extermination in addition to other war crimes, the comments include

  • against the prosecutor
  • referring to the UN "parasites"
  • a call to "start doing a better job" at exterminating Palestinians

Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-probe-accuses-israel-of-extermination-other-crimes-against-humanity-in-gaza/
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nus , to palestine group
@nus@mstdn.social avatar

The loosely moderated comment section of can be rather eye-opening.

Now that the UN has ruled, Israel is committing extermination in addition to other war crimes, the comments include

  • against the prosecutor
  • referring to the UN "parasites"
  • and a call to "start doing a better job" at exterminating them.

Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/un-probe-accuses-israel-of-extermination-other-crimes-against-humanity-in-gaza/
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  • nicholas_saunders , to palestine group

    [The Lawfare Podcast: Patreon Edition] Lawfare Daily: Is Complying with the Law of War a Defense to Genocide?
    https://podcastaddict.com/the-lawfare-podcast-patreon-edition/episode/177653230 via @PodcastAddict

    Takeaways so far:

    IHL is squishy

    A delta in which genocide obligations not displaced by IHL

    However, she also says that this isn't exactly what's being argued.

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    GeriatricGardener , to palestine group
    @GeriatricGardener@kolektiva.social avatar

    “‘Put a cross that doesn’t feel like you’re marking it in blood,’ says independent challenger to LFI’s Peter : meets Tanushka

    by Ed Sykes in The Canary @thecanaryuk @thecanary

    @palestine @israel

    “In a final message to people disenchanted with the way Britain’s political system is working today, she [Marah] emphasised:

    ‘We are here to give people an opportunity to partake in democracy. And who knows? It could actually get some of us independents into power to hold what will be a Labour government to account and to not let them wield as much power and arrogance as they think they can.

    So even if it is just to participate and put a cross in a box that doesn’t feel like you’re marking it in blood, just vote independent, vote Green, vote for the people who are standing for humanity. It’s urgent that you do that, and you have to do that.’”

    https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2024/06/12/tanushka-marah-brighton/?__s=1toyfummtp6bhspv4akg

    faab64 , to palestine group

    US Secretary of State Antony Blinken complains that "Hamas could have answered [to 's proposal] with a single word; Yes", but it proposed changes.

    Disgusting sack of shit genocide enabler never says anything about or his fascist co-criminals, but feeling hurt because Has doesn't like the BS ceasefire deal they didn't even have the balls to vote for.
    Video shared on telegram: t.me/newsvideofa/2573

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    faab64 , to palestine group

    The Israeli far-right government has circumvented Israeli laws to facilitate the closure and ban of any journalistic institution that exposes the atrocities committed by the Israeli occupation army in Gaza. Extremist ministers are also pushing for the expansion of this law to include the occupied West Bank.

    Do not expect anything other than possibly some empty words from the "world leaders" against these outrageous fascist rules in the "only democracy in the middle east".

    @palestine @israel

    faab64 , to palestine group

    WTF story of the day: $University in has dismissed Professor Anne d’Aquino for assigning her students to explore the impact of "genocide in Gaza" on human health.

    The University administration cited "objections from some students" who felt that introducing politics into a science class was inappropriate and considered the material "outside the scope" of the course.

    D’Aquino has appealed her dismissal, contending that the assignment was relevant, especially considering concerns raised by scientists about the spread of infectious diseases in Gaza.

    @palestine @israel

    faab64 , to israel group

    Isreli reserve soldier Eliran Mizrahi committed . He went through difficult experiences during a long military operation in the Strip, was demobilized, diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, and was called under Order No. 8 back to the reserve in Rafah. On Friday, he committed suicide, and his father demands that he be buried in a military burial.

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    DropBear , to israel group
    @DropBear@theblower.au avatar

    "Next month, the world will turn its eyes to the Olympics in Paris.

    36,000 of those who could be watching with us from Gaza are dead. Children who once dreamed of competing have had their limbs torn from them."
    https://secure.avaaz.org/campaign/en/olympics_ban_en_rb/





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    DropBear , to palestine group
    @DropBear@theblower.au avatar

    Who supports the Zionist state and why?
    "...the West needs to show why this Israeli state is grotesque and to ask who in heaven’s name still supports them?"
    https://johnmenadue.com/israel-the-grotesque-who-supports-that-government/








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    DropBear , to palestine group
    @DropBear@theblower.au avatar

    From a 93 year old (old enough to have lived through the times of the Holocaust and the founding of Israel) Jewish Australian:
    "The impression I formed then, and which has been confirmed by subsequent events is that there was and is a deep, shared psychosocial illness infecting Israel but not Jews more generally."
    ...
    "Let’s not confuse and generalise the attitude I and others have identified as underlying the conflict between Israel and Palestine with being anti-Semitic. This blurring of a clear boundary has been used inappropriately and misleadingly by many."
    ...
    "... the human slaughter in Gaza and the enormous waste of resources on armaments to further that genocide could be stopped by refusing any more aid to Israel."
    https://johnmenadue.com/israel-palestine-my-personal-experience-and-conversion/








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    DropBear OP ,
    @DropBear@theblower.au avatar

    @NickSchwanck
    As Yarden Katz wrote:
    "Anyone wishing to understand how the Holocaust was possible, how people who may be warm and kind in their personal lives could support the murder of an entire population deemed subhuman, should examine Israeli society."

    "... the zionist project, culminating in Israel, is profoundly contrary to Jewish traditions ... Israel has suppressed these Jewish traditions and ways of living while hijacking parts of them when convenient."

    "... the dismantling of Israel and the liberation of Palestine must also be a Jewish struggle — a struggle that should go far beyond Jews showing solidarity for Palestinians or simply not wanting to be oppressors. “Israeli” is a colonial identity that should be renounced, not just because it harms Palestinians but also because it is deeply anti-Jewish."

    https://mondoweiss.net/2023/11/are-israelis-jews-returning-to-jewish-minority-life/








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    DropBear OP ,
    @DropBear@theblower.au avatar

    The indoctrination is alarming @NickSchwanck and sadly few manage to deprogram themselves.

    A recovering Zionist speaks:
    "I have been grieving deeply not just since last October, but ever since I woke up to the reality of what Israel is, and what it stands for."
    ...
    "The Palestinian people did nothing wrong. Their ‘big crime’, for which they are being eliminated is that they happened to live on the land that the Zionists coveted for an exclusively Jewish ghetto state."
    https://avigail.substack.com/p/grief-and-guilt-by-association









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    oatmeal , to palestine group
    @oatmeal@kolektiva.social avatar

    / Lindsey Graham: I want them destroyed so they can never come back to hurt Israel or us.

    Graham's comments habitually, and increasingly more nutty, represent the normalization of indiscriminate violence and expose the depravity of U.S. politics. By suggesting should feel free to "do whatever you have to do to survive as a Jewish state," including potentially deploying nuclear hellfire on a civilian population, he has repeatedly dehumanized Palestinians in a way that could greenlight . His eliminationist rhetoric expressing the need to permanently "destroying" Hamas, regardless of civilian cost, is a dangerous xenophobic endgame of his pro-Israel extremism, and a consequence of the media mainstreaming the Israeli occupation for so long that people forget what the Palestinians want and have a right to demand.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lindsey-graham-senator-south-carolina-face-the-nation-transcript-06-09-2024/

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/lindsey-graham-gaza

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    flawed , to palestine group
    @flawed@kolektiva.social avatar

    How far-right is so called "center" in Israel?

    This is a point (they use different words but mean the same) I have seen mentioned by Palestinians & Jewish Israelis who pay far close attention to that society.

    It's definately worth repeating because the so called "centrists" & "liberals" in Israel (Defenders of so called "Democracy") who were (likely are still) politically attacking genocidal right from their right, now want to take a strategic break from committing genocide because the genocidal right they were in bed with is not strategic enough in committing genocide in such visible manner.

    If it was upto these "moderates", they would have ensured the same dispossession, apartheid & genocide, but would have committed them in a more orderly & clandestine manner, with even better PR than the openly genocidal right of Nethanyahu.

    @palestine @israel

    dhayannada ,
    @dhayannada@kolektiva.social avatar

    @flawed @palestine @israel

    Maybe Netanyahu is a bit worn out, so they need a new facade for a war, that couldn't be continued without the assistance of the US and Germany to begin with.

    Netanyahu was always overrated as the main culprit for in . Survey results repeatedly showed a majority of Israelis supporting not only the war as such but acting recklessly on the Palestinians.

    The personalization of politics gives the ruling classes a lot of leeway to maneuver themselves out of predicaments - just change the face and people believe in a new start of something that just gets a reputational face lift.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJDhnwc-YVQ

    figstick , to palestine group
    @figstick@mas.to avatar

    I'm so fed up with mods falling for the "holocaust inversion" bullshit, I'm going to start reporting all apologist posts as "supporting violent ideologies."

    @israel @palestine

    DropBear , to Palestine in Israel kills over 200 Palestinians to rescue 4 captives; U.S. allegedly involved in operation
    @DropBear@theblower.au avatar

    As hasbara, @SuckMyWang your puerile aphorism is counterproductive.

    For example, on October 7 Israelis were taken hostage. That could be seen as a reaction to the thousands of Palestinian hostages held by Israel. The Israeli evil, though greater, does not excuse the evil committed by Hamas (though it could be viewed as precedent).

    If you complain about the Hamas evil and I then counter with the Israeli precedent, then I am tacitly conceding the Hamas evil. Two wrongs do not make a right.







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    DropBear , to Palestine in Israel kills over 200 Palestinians to rescue 4 captives; U.S. allegedly involved in operation
    @DropBear@theblower.au avatar

    One evil might explain another @heretical_i but the one does not excuse the other.







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    oatmeal , to palestine group
    @oatmeal@kolektiva.social avatar

    / Israel rescues four hostages in Gaza raid that Hamas says kills 210 Palestinians

    The only thing true from the spox this time, and probably every single time they bragged about killing X “terrorists”, was this:

    […] "We know about under 100 (Palestinian) casualties. I don't know how many from them are terrorists,"

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-rescues-four-hostages-gaza-palestinians-say-50-dead-israeli-assault-2024-06-08/

    And the there’s also this:

    Israel, "by committing horrific massacres, was able to free some its hostages, yet it killed some others during the operation," al-Qassam Brigades' spokesperson, Abu Ubaida, said in a statement on his Telegram channel.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-armed-wing-says-israel-killed-some-its-hostages-operation-central-gazas-al-2024-06-08/

    The actress Israeli-Palestinian Lama Tator, who hosts an Arabic culture program on , shared a photo of Argamani after her release from captivity, commenting on appearance after long months in captivity and the massacre the IDF carried out to release her and the others.​​​​​​​​​​​​

    "Are these the faces of a hostage for nine months?" the actress wrote in a story she shared on social media. "Are her eyebrows more groomed than mine? Her skin? Her hair? Her nails? What's going on? And for her they need to kill and slaughter children, women, and innocents?"​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

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    #warCrimes

    DropBear ,
    @DropBear@theblower.au avatar

    @oatmeal
    By some reports, the toll of known Palestinian deaths is 247. It's also possible that some other Israeli hostages died in the crossfire. Time will tell, I guess.
    http://www.thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/middle-east-news/2024/06/10/hostages-israel

    Was the operation calculated to maximise Palestinian casualties?








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    GeriatricGardener , to palestine group
    @GeriatricGardener@kolektiva.social avatar

    “Do you condemn Hamas?: The question we have to ask ourselves is not whether we condemn Hamas, but whether we condemn a settler colonial regime that makes armed struggle necessary for survival.”

    by James Ray in Mondoweiss @mondoweiss

    @palestine @israel

    “Like them [Hamas] or not, the efforts they have waged and continue to wage have made more of a material impact toward the liberation of Palestine than anything any of us in the West will ever make. They are taking on the brutal violence of colonial power and waging a campaign of armed struggle that has, at the current moment, with coordination with other resistance factions, made the Zionist colony more of a pariah than it has ever been on a global stage and shattered the image of military invincibility and overall stability it has spent decades cultivating. Countless years of struggle have culminated in this flashpoint.”

    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/06/do-you-condemn-hamas/?ml_recipient=123391519249926016&ml_link=123391510330738497&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=2024-06-06&utm_campaign=Daily+Headlines+RSS+Automation

    DropBear ,
    @DropBear@theblower.au avatar

    Interesting question @jeremy_pm
    The region being a route from Africa to Europe, there's evidence of modern humans in the area 120,000 years ago. Judaism hasn't existed that long.

    Before that, there were other hominids. The earliest remains are estimated to be 1.5 million years old.

    As to "recorded history". Even their own mythology tells against the Jewish. Chapter 15 of Genesis/Bereshit lists peoples who were displaced to establish the Jewish Kingdoms. So Jews weren't "first". There may be "indigenous" jews, but there are also indigenous Moslems and Christians.

    The Zionist invasion began in the 19th century @Sine_Nomine
    Its foundations can be traced to the British Empire, around 1840.
    @zephry @Captain_Jack_Sparrow









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    DropBear ,
    @DropBear@theblower.au avatar

    You're using the Israeli Zionist hasbara definition of "indigenous", I see @zephry
    As their own mythology affirms, Jews took the lands from other peoples. They're thus colonisers.

    For centuries, Arabs, Christians and Jews shared Palestine. Then the Zionists started arriving. To paraphrase article 12 of the Jerusalem Declaration:
    all should be allowed to live together in peace in the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea
    as equals
    http://jerusalemdeclaration.org/









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    @Captain_Jack_Sparrow @GeriatricGardener @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

    DropBear ,
    @DropBear@theblower.au avatar

    Actually, there is no generally accepted definition of "indigenous" @zephry
    That's why Israeli Zionists use the term for hasbara. They can pretend that it means whatever is convenient to their argument.









    @jeremy_pm @Captain_Jack_Sparrow @Sine_Nomine @GeriatricGardener @mondoweiss @palestine @israel

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