ModernRisk , 12 days ago

Let’s be honest though: if Israel stopped bombing immediately, do you think Hamas would stop randomly bombing and mortaring Israel? Sure, Israel is fucked up, but there’s a certain point where Palestine needs to realize they’ll never have peace with Hamas always looking to fight someone. It’s like complaining about the crime in your neighbor but you refuse to tell the cops where the local drug house is even with all the anonymity that technology offers.

do you think Hamas would stop randomly bombing and mortaring Israel?

No, of course they would not. They're fighting to get their land, homes and human rights back and Israel is preventing all of it.

It’s like complaining about the crime in your neighbor but you refuse to tell the cops where the local drug house is even with all the anonymity that technology offers.

This argument is absurd. Because Israel started the entire conflict in 1948 (together with Britian if I remember correctly by ''giving'' the land).

Israel became an actual state in 1948 by displacing 750 000 Palestinian people and murdering many (men, women and children). Laying sieges, bombarding villages and population centers, setting fires to homes, properties and goods. Planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled people from returning (source: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by ilan Pappé).

Hamas did not exist until 1987, they became an actual group only in 1987 because of all the horrifying things Israel had done from 1948 up until 1987. Which is approximately 40 years after what Israel had done to the Palestinian people.

If Israel never done any of this, Hamas would not even exist. They merely became an actual group to get normal human condition. Israel went hard into that and thus Hamas become more and more aggresive. Do I agree with their methods? Definitely not but it is understandable. If peaceful revolution is not possible, violence revolution is inevitable. Push a person or a group enough and this will happen.

Since almost all countries are turning a blind eye, what do you want Hamas to do (Wait, get humiliated and die)?

Also peace without Hamas? What peace are you talking about? Do you mean this kind of “peace”;

1. Strapped down, blindfolded, held in diapers: Israeli whistleblowers detail abuse of Palestinians in shadowy detention center.
2. Death toll in Israeli attack on displaced Palestinians in Rafah rises to 45.
3. Israeli forces’ systemic denial of fair trial rights to Palestinian child prisoners amounts to arbitrary detention.
4. Israel prevents hundreds of worshippers from entering Al-Aqsa on first night of Ramadan.
5. Israel's PM Netanyahu 'proud' of preventing establishment of a Palestinian state.
6. Far-right minister says nuking Gaza an option, PM suspends him from cabinet meetings.
7. Israel Defense Minister Calls Palestinians ‘Human Animals’ Amid Israeli Aggression.
8. Video shows Israeli settler trying to take over Palestinian house.

Hamas even said they would lay down their weapons if an independent Palestinian state is established.

9. Hamas official says group would lay down its arms if an independent Palestinian state is established

EDIT: instead of downvoting, I’d love to hear a counter argument (from people, I haven’t blocked. Saw someone commented but must’ve been someone I blocked. Because, I can’t see/ open the comment). And if you do, give reliable sources otherwise it is just an opinion.