SulaymanF ,

Israel dismisses any and all criticism, and always complains about medieval history as an ad hominem attack. Turkey complains about Israel
killing Turkish civilians? Israel replies something about Turkey mistreating Armenians. German government complains about mistreatment of Palestinians? Call them modern Nazis. Now Spain gets derided as something from nearly 600 years ago.

absentbird ,
@absentbird@lemm.ee avatar

The Armenian genocide wasn't that long ago, it happened during my grandmother's lifetime, and the current leader of Turkey still denies it was a genocide. But bringing up the Spanish inquisition in 2024 is wack.

HawlSera ,

"UK wants to talk about a Healthcare System mere centuries after their mismanaged handling of the Bubonic plague?" - Israel probably

StaySquared ,

lol Netanyahu is begging for the entire world to hate Israel.

AFC1886VCC ,

Israel and Russia acting pretty much the same way at the moment. Yet most of the Western world supports one while condemning the other.

PanArab , (edited )

Not only is the inquisition over, but Spain is welcoming Sephardic Jews and offers them citizenship. This is how one Palestinian refugee from Yaffa got Spanish citizenship.

A 26-year-old lecturer in architecture at Birmingham City University, Iskandarani has been stateless for most of her life, possessing only a Lebanese travel document that defines her as a Palestinian refugee.

But after discovering that her Palestinian father had Jewish roots going back to Spain, Iskandarani was able to claim Spanish citizenship thanks to a 2015 law that promised to naturalize anyone whose Jewish ancestors fled the Spanish Inquisition.

“Absurdly our conversion to Islam got us exiled from Jaffa yet again for again being of different religion and ethnicity,” she wrote. “Quite ironic don’t you think being exiled twice for the exact same reason?”

FlyingSquid Mod ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Israel is making life very dangerous for Jews the rest of the world over, including myself. They want to make it sound like all Jews are Israelis because it helps their cause. Which, of course, suggests that all Jews favor genocide and that emboldens bigots.

And here we go again. Spain isn't persecuting Jews.

Why9 ,

On September 11, some Saudis attacked the World Trade Centre. America retaliated by going to war with Afghanistan, found they had nothing of value, and then Rumsfeld said since Iraq has oil, they should go after them instead. The unprovoked attack and illegal war that still, to this day, has had zero repurcussions against Bush, Blair and the rest who started it, and caused individuals from militant faction groups to rise up and attack those nations in the form of terrorist attacks, perpetuating a cycle of hate and loss.

More than twenty years later, uneducated people still fail to see the distinction between individual terrorists and an entire people who follow Islam. Islamophobia is on the rise right now simply because people are protesting the war in Gaza, and still equating those protesters to the terrorism from years prior.

I say all this because I can see how hate, and in your case, antisemitism lingers. Your actions are not that of the IDF, your words are not the same as aggrevators like Ben Gvir and your policies are not the same as Netenyahu's, but because you're Jewish, those things are all the same now in the eyes of many uneducated people.

It was the same with idiots attacking random (elderly!?) Chinese civilians on the street as a result of COVID lockdowns. The blame lies chiefly with the media and its incendiary bias towards all things that don't align with their backward views, and allowing people like Trump to stand on a podium and address millions of people with lies and baseless claims.

FlyingSquid Mod ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

What happened to Muslims in America after 9/11 was disgusting and sickening and I felt so terrible for them when it happened and still do, which is why I know that this bigotry is unlikely to be coming from them. They know what it's like.

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

Has there been an increase in attacks on random Jews? This is a fascist talking point to shut down protests. The rabi at our state college for that one Hasidic organization (the tunnel controversy one) was spouting this nonsense.

FlyingSquid Mod ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yes there has. It is not just a fascist talking point. However, I know how this goes. I provide examples and they aren't good enough because there's never enough examples to prove that there are people out there who might possibly use legitimate anti-Israel sentiment to embolden bigots when I give them.

LordWiggle ,
@LordWiggle@lemmy.world avatar

Is this a deceleration of war? If the inquisition is over, why is Israel continuing their inquisition?

theacharnian ,

How dare they threaten on of the few democracies in the Iberian Peninsula! Spain has a right to defend itself.

postmateDumbass ,

This is how you break NATO.

Get ready for WW3

small44 ,

Israel have trouble defeating hamas which is not even the stronger group and they think they could really threaten another country?

corus_kt ,

It's probably intentional though, Bibi wants to prolong the conflict to stay in power. It was the main reason he got elected back then after all.

SuddenDownpour ,

In all honesty, I don't think Israel has the manpower to completely wipe out Hamas even if they wanted to, unless they kill or expulse all Gazans. Gaza has plenty of places to hide, even moreso nowadays with all the rubble, and they have guaranteed that even the Palestinians who for one reason hated Hamas will now hate the IDF even more.

When Israel declares that they have completely wiped out Hamas in a specific area, then Hamas immediately attacks them back from the zone they had supposedly been wiped out from, it's difficult to explain it with anything other than incapability, because you're setting up a situation where your own population is going to distrust what you tell them.

Netanyahu is incredibly lucky to have the US support him no matter what he does.

Tryptaminev ,

Weird just a few days earlier they said Spain should look to the time of Muslim rule in southern Spain for atrocities against Jews. Which there weren't Jewish people and culture prospered under the Muslim rule and then got pogromed when the Christians took back over. Now they refer to exactly that.

It is weird that Israel is hellbent not only on revisionism for its own history, but other peoples history too. Or rather it is pretty straight forward as Israel is a fascist colonial entity and shares its interest in revisionism with the Nazis and other colonial genociders.

Cybermonk_Taiji , (edited )

and other colonial genociders.

Strange how no one ever seems to mention the United States when talking about colonial genociders considering it's the OG and role model for that.

Edit:

Hilarious that people who are vehemently anti Israel for being "colonial genociders" would down vote me for bringing up US history.

You people are really fucking stupid.

TheFriar ,

lol there were plenty of colonialist genociders before the US. The British empire, the Roman Empire, etc.

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Were there any that were as WILDLY SUCCESSFUL in their complete genocide of the aboriginal population?

One has to wonder.

Segregation era US was the literal inspiration for the Nazi regime, and even they thought the "one drop rule" was too extreme.

The United States was too extreme in its racism for Nazi Germany.

invisiblegorilla ,

How is the US the OG???

Cybermonk_Taiji , (edited )

Are you serious?

Like really?

Did you learn any history at all?

Here's a hint, was anyone already living there before it was "the US"?

Edit: bonus question

What happened to them? Hmmmmmmm

invisiblegorilla , (edited )

The US isn't the original coloniser. Ghengis Khan did a bloody good job 900 years ago. Alexander the Great was Over 2000 years ago. The US is just shy of 250 years old. So how the fuck is the US the OG (Original gangster)...

I guess your history knowledge is pretty pethetic.. Either that or you don't know what the terms you're using means

NoIWontPickAName ,

Bro… you are so far off that you aren’t even in the same ball field

SuddenDownpour ,

Which there weren’t Jewish people and culture prospered under the Muslim rule and then got pogromed when the Christians took back over.

It's incredibly difficult to overstate how damn correct you are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_of_Jewish_culture_in_Spain

7-8 centuries of Muslim rule, and Jews become renowned as artisans and philosophers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Jews_from_Spain

The Catholic kings finish conquering the last bastion of Muslims in Iberia, and immediately next they tell all Muslims and Jews to either convert to Christianity or to flee the peninsula, because they aren't going to like what's planned for them next. A very different ruler in Europe welcomed them, however:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_the_Ottoman_Empire

Basically, the Turks managed to help Constantinople regain some of the economic importance it had gained during the centuries of collapse of the Byzantine Empire because they welcomed Jewish artisans that had been kicked out of Iberia.

TheObviousSolution , (edited )

This isn't the funniest bit so far, the funniest bit is that Netanyahu's is now meeting with Spain's far-right, the party that attracts real antisemites. Of course, they are truly anti-semitic, as in hating anything recognizably brown enough and not just colozioniolists changing names from Mileikowsky to Netanyahu, so I'm sure they would love a repeat of the Haavara Agreement anyway with a leader they clearly share a lot of values with.

ProvableGecko ,

Neo-nazis banded up with zionists to attack US college student encampments. These right-wing zionists wield antisemitism as a shield while they accomplish their zionist agenda and throw in together with whomever is willing to ally with them. They even freely admit it.

OfCourseNot ,
@OfCourseNot@fedia.io avatar

In Spain antisemitism is rampant left and right, that's why the government (Socialist Party) has done this. Make no mistake, this is not solidarity or justice or shit, just a smoke screen so their voters forget about the cost of living, housing, unemployment.. and all the hard-to-solve pressing issues they don't want to do anything about.

SuddenDownpour ,

Comparing the current ruling party in Spain with the inquisition is specially ironic, if you know that they voted in favor of granting the descendants of the Sephardic Jews expelled by the Inquisition the Spanish nationality if they applied for it, less than 10 years ago.

https://religionnews.com/2014/02/17/sephardic-jews-eager-apply-spanish-citizenship/

If anything, you could argue that this created an Islamophobic or Pro-Jewish double standard, since the descendants of Muslims expelled by the inquisition weren't granted that right.

MataVatnik ,
@MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

Israel is unhinged

iAvicenna ,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

wow what a way to summarise all the things you have been doing for the last year

joneskind ,
@joneskind@lemmy.world avatar

What the fuck?

drolex ,

Very normal and rational reaction to Bibi's hateful drivel. I prescribe you nothing, come back to my office when you're in the all caps, three exclamation marks stage.

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