Sex offender banned from using AI tools in landmark UK case ( www.theguardian.com )

A sex offender convicted of making more than 1,000 indecent images of children has been banned from using any “AI creating tools” for the next five years in the first known case of its kind.

Anthony Dover, 48, was ordered by a UK court “not to use, visit or access” artificial intelligence generation tools without the prior permission of police as a condition of a sexual harm prevention order imposed in February.

The ban prohibits him from using tools such as text-to-image generators, which can make lifelike pictures based on a written command, and “nudifying” websites used to make explicit “deepfakes”.

Dover, who was given a community order and £200 fine, has also been explicitly ordered not to use Stable Diffusion software, which has reportedly been exploited by paedophiles to create hyper-realistic child sexual abuse material, according to records from a sentencing hearing at Poole magistrates court.

JackGreenEarth ,
@JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee avatar

As a UK citizen, I'm ashamed of my government.

I am firmly against child abusers, but AI images don't harm anyone and are a safe and harmless way for pedophiles to fulfil their urges, which they cannot control.

natural_motions ,

The sexualization of children in any form is disgusting and harmful.

Pedophiles need medical and psychological help, not encouragement in fulfilling their urges. Society should reject the sexualization of children. Full stop.

quindraco ,

This sort of problem-solving acumen is how HIV became so widespread in Africa. Have you considered instead trying competence?

natural_motions ,

Have you considered not advocating for the sexualization of children?

Tippon ,

Where does the training data come from to create indecent images of children?

Dran_Arcana ,

It doesn't need csam data for training, it just needs to know what a boob looks like, and what a child looks like. I run some sdxl-based models at home and I've observed it can be difficult to avoid more often than you'd think. There are keywords in porn that blend the lines across datasets ("teen", "petite", "young", "small" etc). The word "girl" in particular I've found that if you add that to basically any porn prompt gives you a small chance of inadvertently creating the undesirable. You have to be really careful and use words like "woman", "adult", etc instead to convince your image model not to make things that look like children. If you've ever wondered why internet-based porn generators are on super heavy guardrails, this is why.

xmunk ,

It is true, a 10 year old naked woman is just a 30 year old naked woman scaled down by 40%. /s

No buddy, there isn't some vector of "this is the distance between kid and adult" that a model can apply to generate what a hypothetical child looks like. The base model was almost certainly trained on more than just anatomical drawings from Wikipedia - it ate some csam.

If you've seen stuff about "Hitler - Germany + Italy = Mousillini" for models where that's true (which is not universal) it takes an awful lot of training data to establish and strengthen those vectors. Unless the generated images were comically inaccurate then a lot of training went into this too.

rebelsimile ,

Right, and the google image ai gobbled up a bunch of images of black george washington, right? They must have been in the data set, there’s no way to blend a vector from one value to another, like you said. That would be madness. Nope, must have been copious amounts of asian nazis in the training set, since the model is incapable of blending concepts.

xmunk ,

You're incorrect and you should fucking know better.

I have no idea why my comment above was downvoted to hell but AI can't "dream up" what a naked young person looks like. An AI can figure that adults wear different clothes and put a black woman in a revolutionary war outfit. These are totally different concepts.

You can downvote me if you like but your AI generated csam is based on real csam so fuck off. I'm disappointed there is such a large proportion of people defending csam here especially since lemmy should be technically oriented - I expect to see more input from fellow AI fluent people.

rebelsimile ,

You’re spreading misinformation and getting called out for it.

xmunk ,

Just a note - csam has been found in model training sets: https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/news/investigation-finds-ai-image-generation-models-trained-child-abuse

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