Dasus , 12 days ago (edited 11 days ago)

In the last few months, yeah, it was more popular than 50/50, that's why it went through. But even during the first several months of the current Russo--Ukrainian wars, most polls showed it to be pretty even. Until it wasn't.

Joining NATO was a good thing. I just do have certain reservations about it, and we definitely didn't need it against Russia.

You'll notice that September 2022 is several months later than the start of the current Russo-Ukrainian war.

The people who were pro-NATO used a lot of fear mongering
or maybe you are naive

Or maybe I'm an NCO in the Finnish reserves and have a better understanding of Finnish military capabilities than you? I've sat lessons in which most scenarios of Russia attacking were discussed.

And even without NATO, we weren't alone. We're part of NORDEFCO and EU.

So yeah, I'm not naive, but you're definitely I'll-informed. Like a lot of people were, which is why the fear mongering worked so well.

Finland used to be under Russia too, so Finland is very likely on the list.

If you're talking pre Finnish independence, technically, yes, but also, no. We were an autonomous region, the Grand Duchy of Finland.

And yes, of course we're "on the list", but unless Russia attacks straight up with nukes, it's really not a potential threat currently. And hasn't been since Russia's "special military operation".

We had good plans, resources and alliances to deal with a Russian who hadn't put all their resources towards Ukraine, and we could've easily done it without NATO, but after Russia is even weaker and has no resources to send against us, we somehow suddenly require NATO?

Ridiculous. Do you know that the EU also has a mutual defence clause?

That's why we need to quickly push through the Accession of Ukraine into the European Union.

Again, I'm not anti-NATO, and don't mind that we joined NATO, at all. It was probably due at some point, and what better point than when Russia is weak and can't even manage their usual threats. My problem is that the rhetoric that was used to gather support for the notion was entirely fearmongering.

Edit adding this direct quote from the article you linked

"Backing for membership in Yle polls has grown from 53 percent in February to 62 percent in March and 76 percent in May. Before the Russian attack on Ukraine, a majority of Finns had long opposed membership."